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Oval Wars! New Map Version 4
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:23 pmby sailorseal
1.Continents-7
2.Number of Territory-21
3.Starting positions-Random
4.Bonuses
Hold continent spaces colored-
Yellow-4
Dark Blue-5
Light Blue-6
Blue-3
Green-3
Red-5
Grey-3
5.Objectives- Standard
6.full list of territories
List of territories
1. Yellow 1
2. Yellow 2
3. Yellow 3
4. Dark Blue 1
5. Dark Blue 2
6. Dark Blue 3
7. Light Blue 1
8. Light Blue 2
9. Light Blue 3
10 Blue Right 1
11. Blue Center 2
12. Blue Left 3
13. Green Left 1
14. Green Center 2
15. Green Right 3
16. Red Right 1
17. Red Center 2
18. Red Left 3
19. Grey Left 1
20. Grey Center 2
21. Grey Right 3
Image
Version 4
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Version 3
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Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:10 pmby the.killing.44
Well Luke, it's a good concept but you need to work on the graphics – it's very very hard to see what the bonuses are and what connects to what. Please change the background image!
(those are my eyes burning out). Also, I think you should use "Blue 1, 2, 3, etc." instead of "Center, Right, etc."
Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:48 pmby whitestazn88
WHAT?
is this really what the foundry has been reduced to? oval wars?
i didn't even know paint maps were allowed... anyways. i like the idea of another small number of territs map, but this is kinda ridic... the background is heinous. there is no bonus structure. i mean you label bonuses, but i don't know what belongs where.
Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:58 pmby sailorseal
So what would you change?!?
Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:00 pmby the.killing.44
- background image
- colors (widen outline, differentiate)
- change labels (#s)
- what happens when a territory isn't attached to anything?
- make everything bolder
- more …
Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:01 pmby whitestazn88
i really can't tell what set of ovals is what bonus
Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:13 pmby oaktown
the.killing.44 wrote:Well Luke, it's a good concept but you need to work on the graphics
I disagree.
Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:21 pmby the.killing.44
oaktown wrote:the.killing.44 wrote:Well Luke, it's a good concept but you need to work on the graphics
I disagree.
Oaktown, don't tell me you agree with the graphics. Because … well no offense look at it. So … you disagree that it's a good concept? I realize it's not very unique, which is indeed a large aspect of maps, but still … yeah I lost that thought. A revamp or
X is in order here. I will talk with the creator if he
ever gets back online (hint hint).
Re: Oval Wars! New Map version 2
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:40 pmby sailorseal
How about this version 2...
[bigimg]http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww239/sailorsealpics/OvalWars.jpg[/bigimg[
Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:48 pmby oaktown
the.killing.44 wrote:Oaktown, don't tell me you agree with the graphics. Because … well no offense look at it. So … you disagree that it's a good concept? I realize it's not very unique, which is indeed a large aspect of maps, but still … yeah I lost that thought. A revamp or X is in order here. I will talk with the creator if he ever gets back online (hint hint).
I was just being a jackass.
Graphics are, well, let's just say that most first drafts look very little like the final versions, so I try not to get hung up with early graphics. It's the basic concept that I'm not to keen on. I think that there is a place for some more abstract maps at CC, but we already have rectangle wars (aka Classic Art) and a very fun shapes map in King of the Mountains, so an Oval Wars map with classic gameplay doesn't bring anything new to the table.
Re: Oval Wars! New Map
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:51 pmby the.killing.44
His v2 is much better in terms of graphics, but Oaktown I agree with you on the idea factor.
Will you please take a look at my Korea map?
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 2
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:01 pmby sailorseal
I was thinking of adding a stand alone Oval that can only be bombarded from three set points. The Oval would be able to attack any other oval on the board. Is this a good idea?
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 2
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:10 pmby the.killing.44
Your bonuses are a mess:
Yellow:
3 territories :: 1 territory to defend :: can be attacked by 2 territories
bonus = 2
Dark Blue
3 territories :: 1 territory to defend :: can be attacked by 3 territories
bonus = 3
Blue
3 territories :: 1 territory to defend :: can be attacked by 1 territory
bonus = 1
Light Blue
3 territories :: 1 territory to defend :: can be attacked by 3 territories
bonus = 3
Red
3 territories :: 1 territory to defend :: can be attacked by 3 territories
bonus = 3
Gray
3 territories :: 1 territory to defend :: can be attacked by 1 territory
bonus = 1
Anyone else noticing a pattern? We need some diversity (Luke insert the obvious joke here … others won't get it) here!
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 2
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:00 pmby sailorseal
All conquerers are equal but some conquerers are more equal then others.
or
Community
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 2
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:01 pmby the.killing.44
sailorseal wrote:All conquerers are equal but some conquerers are more equal then others.
or
Community
What are you on about?
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 3
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:07 pmby sailorseal
Last minute change
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 3
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:09 pmby sailorseal
I have made a new change that makes this map better. Give me feedback! Jake what joke are you talking about?
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 3
Posted:
Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:22 pmby the.killing.44
I'll explain tomorrow.
Instead of posting something long here, I will talk to you in person at length tomorrow. Advisory, k?
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 3
Posted:
Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:19 pmby The Neon Peon
Disclaimer: I do not use any euphemisms in my posts.
I don't think this is even worth getting moved to the drafting room.
1. This will NEVER get the graphics stamp, unless the foundry seriously degrades itself on quality or you get someone to help you. Stick to things you are good at.
2. The gameplay is horrible for several reasons. Firstly, the map is so small that the only purpose of it is for games with all luck, except for some specific settings. Secondly, you have crammed so many bonuses in there, that the largest you could give is a 2, 3 for 3 territories is stretching it already.
3. There is no theme. I do not consider hand-drawing some ovals on paint a theme to a map. I suggest you look at a map other than Classic and Centerscape for inspiration.
4. The army circles should be circles, not rectangles that change in size as you move from one to another.
5. The map is WAY too large.
6. The map foundry specifically says to not use paint as your main tool for creating the map. You would only find it if you look through the threads made about how to make a map, but they say it clearly.
I do not personally make maps because I am not good at it. Some people are good at some things, and not good at others. Stick with something else.
P.S. Sorry if I am being too harsh.
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 3
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:01 pmby whitestazn88
The Neon Peon wrote:Disclaimer: I do not use any euphemisms in my posts.
I don't think this is even worth getting moved to the drafting room.
1. This will NEVER get the graphics stamp, unless the foundry seriously degrades itself on quality or you get someone to help you. Stick to things you are good at.
2. The gameplay is horrible for several reasons. Firstly, the map is so small that the only purpose of it is for games with all luck, except for some specific settings. Secondly, you have crammed so many bonuses in there, that the largest you could give is a 2, 3 for 3 territories is stretching it already.
3. There is no theme. I do not consider hand-drawing some ovals on paint a theme to a map. I suggest you look at a map other than Classic and Centerscape for inspiration.
4. The army circles should be circles, not rectangles that change in size as you move from one to another.
5. The map is WAY too large.
6. The map foundry specifically says to not use paint as your main tool for creating the map. You would only find it if you look through the threads made about how to make a map, but they say it clearly.
I do not personally make maps because I am not good at it. Some people are good at some things, and not good at others. Stick with something else.
P.S. Sorry if I am being too harsh.
i mean, i would have said the same thing... but i felt bad about the whole "we're scaring noobs away from the foundry b/c we're too harsh" situation, so i wanted to be nice
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 3
Posted:
Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:17 pmby the.killing.44
whitestazn88 wrote:The Neon Peon wrote:Disclaimer: I do not use any euphemisms in my posts.
I don't think this is even worth getting moved to the drafting room.
1. This will NEVER get the graphics stamp, unless the foundry seriously degrades itself on quality or you get someone to help you. Stick to things you are good at.
2. The gameplay is horrible for several reasons. Firstly, the map is so small that the only purpose of it is for games with all luck, except for some specific settings. Secondly, you have crammed so many bonuses in there, that the largest you could give is a 2, 3 for 3 territories is stretching it already.
3. There is no theme. I do not consider hand-drawing some ovals on paint a theme to a map. I suggest you look at a map other than Classic and Centerscape for inspiration.
4. The army circles should be circles, not rectangles that change in size as you move from one to another.
5. The map is WAY too large.
6. The map foundry specifically says to not use paint as your main tool for creating the map. You would only find it if you look through the threads made about how to make a map, but they say it clearly.
I do not personally make maps because I am not good at it. Some people are good at some things, and not good at others. Stick with something else.
P.S. Sorry if I am being too harsh.
i mean, i would have said the same thing... but i felt bad about the whole "we're scaring noobs away from the foundry b/c we're too harsh" situation, so i wanted to be nice
lol I've talked with sailor much about this in person as well as many other people from CC, and he won't admit that Neon your ideas are correct and this won't get anywhere. *sigh* And please don't worry about being harsh … I myself (at least) find it better criticism on maps.
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 4
Posted:
Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:29 pmby the.killing.44
Sailorseal has informed he that he is abandoning this map
thank the lord
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 4
Posted:
Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:46 pmby sailorseal
Jake don't lie to the public!
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 4
Posted:
Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:13 pmby MrBenn
There is nothing about this map that inspires me... sorry :-/
I'd suggest getting a decent graphics program and working on getting an image that doesn't look like it took 5 minutes to knock-up in Paint.
Until then, I'll move this thread into the ideas room
Re: Oval Wars! New Map Version 4
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Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:02 amby Timon
the.killing.44 wrote:Sailorseal has informed he that he is abandoning this map
thank the lord
lol
you're right:D