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London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:31 pm
by drake_259
If this hasn't been brought up before then wow im very suprised

but what do you think of this idea of having the England Capital as a map.

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:28 pm
by bryguy
its been tried before, and idk what happened to it

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:06 pm
by drake_259
Thought so

anyone know the link to the thread

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:07 pm
by whitestazn88
yeah, i thought i've seen one before too.

wouldn't be a bad idea though

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:13 pm
by drake_259
Maybe someone should try taking it up again as it looks like it would be a decent map

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:18 pm
by oaktown
cities are tricky, as they 1) require a pretty talented artist to capture the feel, and 2) everybody who has ever lived in/visited/read a wikipedia entry about he city thinks he's an expert, so there is endless arguing over where to draw borders and what to call everything.

But I agree, this is in my top ten list of map ideas that haven't been made into a map yet. (Hmm, do I sense a Map Discussions poll/game coming up about this? Somebody should get on that.)

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:20 pm
by InkL0sed
They pretty much need to be made by an inhabitant. Hence why NYC turned out so well.

I might add that having loyal commenters who are also natives helps as well... 8-[

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:24 pm
by oaktown
InkL0sed wrote:They pretty much need to be made by an inhabitant. Hence why NYC turned out so well.

sure, but find an inhabitant who has the time and skills. I think if a local paired up with one of our regular mapmakers this could make for a great collaborative map. if somebody who really knows the city is serious about making this happen, I'm willing to talk with them.

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:27 pm
by gimil
oaktown wrote:2) everybody who has ever lived in/visited/read a wikipedia entry about he city thinks he's an expert, so there is endless arguing over where to draw borders and what to call everything.


Simple, get iancanton to make the decision :D

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:29 pm
by drake_259
Well whoever goes and tries you do this map i would like to thank them

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:40 pm
by oaktown
If I was going to work with somebody on this there are two things I should throw out there right now...

1) I've got a lot on my plate right now with the two maps in production and a third that I'll be posting tonight. So if I'm going to do the graphics, I'd like somebody else to try and walk it through the Draft stage and work out where the territories, regions, and borders should be, bonuses, etc. That crap takes weeks that I don't have, but once most of that stuff is settled I can take over posting updates. This worked pretty well with the Scotland map.

2) As you may know if you are familiar with my past work, I like to have a historical setting to work in. We could do a contemporary map of London, but it's more fun to go back a bit in time and try to capture a particular era. I think this would be the right way to go with a London map, because if you make a contemporary map of London the city is so damned big you start wondering where to draw the line - somebody's street will not make the cut and be angry! And if you include everything out to and past all the airports you guys keep building, the heart of the city gets lost. Plus, who really wants that big ferris wheel on the map? ;)

Keep the discussion going in the thread, and maybe this can turn into something.

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:46 pm
by whitestazn88
i actually thought a tourists map of london would be cool, with the tower of london, buckingham palace, soho, the eye, big ben, etc. as bonuses like that crapped out san diego map had

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:48 pm
by cena-rules
whitestazn88 wrote:i actually thought a tourists map of london would be cool, with the tower of london, buckingham palace, soho, the eye, big ben, etc. as bonuses like that crapped out san diego map had

I couldnt think of anthing worse

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:09 pm
by drake_259
why not just do the boroughs


Image

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:01 pm
by whitestazn88
cena-rules wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:i actually thought a tourists map of london would be cool, with the tower of london, buckingham palace, soho, the eye, big ben, etc. as bonuses like that crapped out san diego map had

I couldnt think of anthing worse


well it seems as though that makes one vote for, and one vote against tourist map

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:40 pm
by oaktown
here are some maps that are more along the lines of what I'd like to see done... careful, the first one is a large file.
http://www.writewellgroup.com/Shakespea ... 1593-b.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... f_1673.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ighton.JPG

Image

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:46 pm
by drake_259
oaktown wrote:here are some maps that are more along the lines of what I'd like to see done... careful, the first one is a large file.
http://www.writewellgroup.com/Shakespea ... 1593-b.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... f_1673.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ighton.JPG

Image


Their alot harder though

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:53 am
by drake_259
I take it this is going nowhere

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:57 am
by Ryall55
I like drakes boroughs idea, easier, and could actually be a good and fun map. :)

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:24 pm
by drake_259
here is an idea for the bonus groups


City of London

Waltham Forest
Redbridge
Barking and Dagenham
Havering
Newham

City Of Westminster
Kensington and Chelsea (K&C)
Hammersmith and Fulham (H&F)
Camden
Islington
Hackney
Tower Hamlets

Hillingdon
Harrow
Barnet
Enfield
Haringey
Ealing
Hounslow
Brent
Richmond

Greenwich
Bexley
Bromley
Croydon
Sutton
Merton
Kingston
Wandsworth
Lambeth
Southwark
Lewisham

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:02 pm
by stickamus
where's Middlesex :?:

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:05 pm
by drake_259
Middlesex is not London it's like Essex and Sussex

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:21 pm
by sam_levi_11
the old london broke down because everyone who lives in london (me) wanted the boroughs, but the map maker wanted a tourist london.

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:44 pm
by whitestazn88
33 bonuses?

Re: London

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:15 pm
by drake_259
whitestazn88 wrote:33 bonuses?


no that was just how many places there are

the bonus groups are below that