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The Alamo [On Hold]

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:00 pm
by rgbubba
Alamo Map 3-14-08
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Alamo Test 1 600x600
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:14 pm
by pepperonibread
All depends on how you work it, really... even a quick draft would get some discussion going :)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:46 pm
by edbeard
I forgot about that place

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:39 am
by Lone.prophet
edbeard wrote:I forgot about that place


but you have to remember it

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:55 pm
by rgbubba
I will post a draft tonight.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:52 am
by rgbubba
Here you go!

Alamo Test 1 600x600
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:27 am
by whitestazn88
where are the mexicans?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:47 am
by fumandomuerte
whitestazn88 wrote:where are the mexicans?


Spending some time on Cancún 8) .

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:14 am
by bryguy
fumandomuerte wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:where are the mexicans?


Spending some time on Cancún 8) .



:lol:


isnt the alamo the place where 500 texans held off 2000 mexicans?? and didnt the battle like last a week???

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:00 pm
by rgbubba
bryguy wrote:
fumandomuerte wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:where are the mexicans?


Spending some time on Cancún 8) .



:lol:


isnt the alamo the place where 500 texans held off 2000 mexicans?? and didnt the battle like last a week???


Something like that. I like the map you sent. Maybe kick around more ideas.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:36 am
by rgbubba
Alamo Test 2 800x800 3-8-08
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The Facts of the Alamo:

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:55 pm
by rgbubba
History about the Alamo

Originally named Misión San Antonio de Valero, the Alamo served as home to missionaries and their Indian converts for nearly seventy years. Construction began on the present site in 1724. In 1793, Spanish officials secularized San Antonio's five missions and distributed their lands to the remaining Indian residents. These men and women continued to farm the fields, once the mission's but now their own, and participated in the growing community of San Antonio.

In the early 1800s, the Spanish military stationed a cavalry unit at the former mission. The soldiers referred to the old mission as the Alamo (the Spanish word for "cottonwood") in honor of their hometown Alamo de Parras, Coahuila. The post's commander established the first recorded hospital in Texas in the Long Barrack. The Alamo was home to both Revolutionaries and Royalists during Mexico's ten-year struggle for independence. The military — Spanish, Rebel, and then Mexican — continued to occupy the Alamo until the Texas Revolution.

San Antonio and the Alamo played a critical role in the Texas Revolution. In December 1835, Ben Milam led Texian and Tejano volunteers against Mexican troops quartered in the city. After five days of house-to-house fighting, they forced General Marín Perfecto de Cós and his soldiers to surrender. The victorious volunteers then occupied the Alamo — already fortified prior to the battle by Cós' men — and strengthened its defenses.

On February 23, 1836, the arrival of General Antonio López de Santa Anna's army outside San Antonio nearly caught them by surprise. Undaunted, the Texians and Tejanos prepared to defend the Alamo together. The defenders held out for 13 days against Santa Anna's army. William B. Travis, the commander of the Alamo sent forth couriers carrying pleas for help to communities in Texas. On the eighth day of the siege, a band of 32 volunteers from Gonzales arrived, bringing the number of defenders to nearly two hundred. Legend holds that with the possibility of additional help fading, Colonel Travis drew a line on the ground and asked any man willing to stay and fight to step over — all except one did. As the defenders saw it, the Alamo was the key to the defense of Texas, and they were ready to give their lives rather than surrender their position to General Santa Anna. Among the Alamo's garrison were Jim Bowie, renowned knife fighter, and David Crockett, famed frontiersman and former congressman from Tennessee.

The final assault came before daybreak on the morning of March 6, 1836, as columns of Mexican soldiers emerged from the predawn darkness and headed for the Alamo's walls. Cannon and small arms fire from inside the Alamo beat back several attacks. Regrouping, the Mexicans scaled the walls and rushed into the compound. Once inside, they turned a captured cannon on the Long Barrack and church, blasting open the barricaded doors. The desperate struggle continued until the defenders were overwhelmed. By sunrise, the battle had ended and Santa Anna entered the Alamo compound to survey the scene of his victory.

While the facts surrounding the siege of the Alamo continue to be debated, there is no doubt about what the battle has come to symbolize. People worldwide continue to remember the Alamo as a heroic struggle against impossible odds — a place where men made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom. For this reason, the Alamo remains hallowed ground and the Shrine of Texas Liberty

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:42 pm
by hwhrhett
an alamo map would be cool, but it is hard to do one justice, since the alamo was a fight against all odds, certain death, the alamo itself would have to be impossible to defend, but worth a whole lot of armies. a map of the inside of the alamo itself, would be lame.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:43 pm
by hwhrhett
like if all of the walls of the alamo itself were one way walls, walls where anybody can come in, but nobody can leave.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:18 am
by rgbubba
hwhrhett wrote:an alamo map would be cool, but it is hard to do one justice, since the alamo was a fight against all odds, certain death, the alamo itself would have to be impossible to defend, but worth a whole lot of armies. a map of the inside of the alamo itself, would be lame.

hwhrhett wrote:like if all of the walls of the alamo itself were one way walls, walls where anybody can come in, but nobody can leave.


I would like to make a map that would take in the whole story. That means adding in the town near by.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:00 am
by trk1994
This could be interesting. I would however need a lot of work and input to justify the story. In that thought you would have to make the map lopsided to favor the Mexican Armies in the numbers. Perhaps evened a bit with large bonuses given to the Texan Armies for heart and determination. And yes the north wall would need to be impassable leaving the mission but completely open to attack. Perhaps an escape route to the south to allow Texan armies to leave and conquer the rest of the map. Texans should be able to bombard every area outside the walls and one pivotal cannon should be able to bombard area's within the wall. I say run with this idea and see what happens

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:14 pm
by rgbubba
trk1994 wrote:This could be interesting. I would however need a lot of work and input to justify the story. In that thought you would have to make the map lopsided to favor the Mexican Armies in the numbers. Perhaps evened a bit with large bonuses given to the Texan Armies for heart and determination. And yes the north wall would need to be impassable leaving the mission but completely open to attack. Perhaps an escape route to the south to allow Texan armies to leave and conquer the rest of the map. Texans should be able to bombard every area outside the walls and one pivotal cannon should be able to bombard area's within the wall. I say run with this idea and see what happens


Great ideas! Let's see what I can come up with on the Map.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:17 pm
by bryguy
rgbubba wrote:
trk1994 wrote:This could be interesting. I would however need a lot of work and input to justify the story. In that thought you would have to make the map lopsided to favor the Mexican Armies in the numbers. Perhaps evened a bit with large bonuses given to the Texan Armies for heart and determination. And yes the north wall would need to be impassable leaving the mission but completely open to attack. Perhaps an escape route to the south to allow Texan armies to leave and conquer the rest of the map. Texans should be able to bombard every area outside the walls and one pivotal cannon should be able to bombard area's within the wall. I say run with this idea and see what happens


Great ideas! Let's see what I can come up with on the Map.


how for insane gameplay each territory in the allamo add up so that the total in the allamo is the same as the ammount there was, and the ones in the mexican armie add up to the same amount that the mexicans have

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:47 pm
by rgbubba
Alamo Map 3-15-08

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"The Texan Wars" Coming Soon!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:55 pm
by edbeard
interesting to see your progression, but I guess we'll have to wait a while to see any territories and continents eh?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:42 pm
by Elijah S
Good subject-matter. Initial draft is vague and you'll probably need to add some things to really get discussion going with this.
I'm interested in seeing what you come up with as for territories and gameplay.
This board has potential for more than just classic style gameplay.
Cairns might have some good advice on this.
GL

Let's get some real discussion going.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:08 am
by laci_mae
The topic I see that warrants initial discussion is the focus of the map. Is the map to be focused on the Battle at the Alamo or on the overall history of the site? Anyone who clicks on the map will expect it to be about the battle.

This decision carries many implications:
• Either focus could result in creative gameplay.
• Several good ideas have already been put forth concerning game play that would mimic the Battle
• Attention to the Alamo’s history as a mission could also be interesting
• Division of the territories within the structure will be based on which group(s) were occupying it during the chosen time period.

My idea is to forego recreating the Battle. Instead, you could let all the groups that ever occupied the Alamo fight over it. That is, keep the Alamo rather small and set up continents around it that are the missionaries, Calvary unit, Revolutionaries, Royalists, Texan soldiers, etc.


Best,
Laci

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:57 pm
by tenio
well, i did a research paper on the alamo, and a cool fact was that there was pleant of cannon, like 30, but there just wasn't enough people to fire the cannons, so the cannons weren't used during the battle,


I think the map should definitely include the town nearby, and the Texan army, the alamo should be broken down into parts, and if you control those parts you get auto deployed like a bunch of people

also if you control the Calvary reinforcements and a path to the alamo an additional bonus should be awarded,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:21 am
by rgbubba
Thanks Guys for your suggestions!

Re: The Alamo

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:05 pm
by rgbubba
I would like any suggestions!