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Poker King

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:56 pm
by DiM
first of all sorry for the poor image but i'm in a hurry cause i have to go to sleep (5.51 AM). i'm really tired.

second, here is the idea, a poker table with a full deck of cards.
you get bonuses for making a flush or holding a pair just like in poker.
attacks can be made in any direction.
at the moment the deck is shufled but i'm also thinking of arranging the cards somehow to create impassable borders or something like that, sorry i'm not to coherent at this hour. i'll be back later today and i'll improve the idea and the design. (if there is positive feedback)
here is the image.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:15 pm
by KEYOGI
Something like this has been suggested before, I think the main problem was coding the XML. Maybe you should ask yeti_c (the programming guru :wink:) if he can help you out with this.

"Attacks can be in any direction."
Does this include diagonal? Sorry, I couldn't resist. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:29 am
by oaktown
glee and i were kicking the idea around a few months ago... here's the thread if you're interested in the old discussion:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... highlight=

The xml sounded so daunting we walked away from it... for example, if you have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, you wlll get bonuses for three distinct straights: 2-6, 3-7, 4-8. And if you have a second 4 you will have six straights, and a second 6 gives you twelve straights, etc. There are ways of throwing in negatives to avoid redundant bonuses, as keyogi is doing with the Conquer 4, but it will be a ton of work figuring it all out.

Still, I love the idea and I think it would make for some really interesting game play. Thered be a lot of strategy involved.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:12 am
by yeti_c
I love this idea - I would be well up for coding the XML for this...

What we need is to decide on what consitutes 2 correct straights and 2 non correct straights?

i.e. This is 2 straights 2,3,4,5,6 & 7,8,9,10,J

Or This is 2 straights 2,3,4,5,6 & 6,7,8,9,10 (with one overlap)

I would prefer the first one...

Or alternatively to make it simpler then you could drop straights and only have flushes? (i.e straights of only one suit?) Or is that the rule anyway?

C.

PS Jokers will exponentially increase the XML... (i.e. don't have them!)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:15 am
by DiM
yeti_c wrote:I love this idea - I would be well up for coding the XML for this...

What we need is to decide on what consitutes 2 correct straights and 2 non correct straights?

i.e. This is 2 straights 2,3,4,5,6 & 7,8,9,10,J

Or This is 2 straights 2,3,4,5,6 & 6,7,8,9,10 (with one overlap)

I would prefer the first one...

Or alternatively to make it simpler then you could drop straights and only have flushes? (i.e straights of only one suit?) Or is that the rule anyway?

C.

PS Jokers will exponentially increase the XML... (i.e. don't have them!)


i was thinking of clean formations, no card should belong to 2 different straights.

for example if i have 2,3,4,5,6 and another 4,5,6,7,8 i want just 2 straights, no pairs no extra anything.
but it could be very difficult. even though i find it really logical.
if i have 2,3,4,5,6 and 4,5,6,7,8 plus another 6. this means i have 2 clean straights one overlapping straight 3,4,5,6,7 another 3 straights formed with using the third 6, another 6 straights for switching 4,5,6 between the first 2 straights, i have 3 one pairs 4,5,6 i have 3 two pairs (4-5,5-6,4-6) and another 4 two pairs by inserting the third 6 instead of one of the other sixes), i'd also have one 3 of a kind. and 2 full houses so i own 11 continents and i get 24 bonuses. this is really mad. could there be a way to allways implement the highest bonus obtainable without using a card for more than one formation?

another example: if i have QQKKK it's a full, 2 one pair, 1 3 of i kind, and 1 two pairs.
and i have the following bonuses.
full +6
3 of a kind +3
2 pair +2
1 pair +1
i want to receive only the full house bonus.
and if next turn i lose one K i want to receive the 2 pair bonus and not the 2 one pair bonuses.

and another problem.

i have QQ KK and i get the +2 bonus for havin a 2 pair formation.
and another guy has JJJJ and gets +7 bonus for having 4 of a kind.
that's a 5 armies difference for owning the same number of cards.

in the current format where all cards can attack in any direction this is a real problem, but it could be solved by adding impassable borders. what do you say?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:42 am
by yeti_c
DiM wrote:
yeti_c wrote:I love this idea - I would be well up for coding the XML for this...

What we need is to decide on what consitutes 2 correct straights and 2 non correct straights?

i.e. This is 2 straights 2,3,4,5,6 & 7,8,9,10,J

Or This is 2 straights 2,3,4,5,6 & 6,7,8,9,10 (with one overlap)

I would prefer the first one...

Or alternatively to make it simpler then you could drop straights and only have flushes? (i.e straights of only one suit?) Or is that the rule anyway?

C.

PS Jokers will exponentially increase the XML... (i.e. don't have them!)


i was thinking of clean formations, no card should belong to 2 different straights.

for example if i have 2,3,4,5,6 and another 4,5,6,7,8 i want just 2 straights, no pairs no extra anything.
but it could be very difficult. even though i find it really logical.
if i have 2,3,4,5,6 and 4,5,6,7,8 plus another 6. this means i have 2 clean straights one overlapping straight 3,4,5,6,7 another 3 straights formed with using the third 6, another 6 straights for switching 4,5,6 between the first 2 straights, i have 3 one pairs 4,5,6 i have 3 two pairs (4-5,5-6,4-6) and another 4 two pairs by inserting the third 6 instead of one of the other sixes), i'd also have one 3 of a kind. and 2 full houses so i own 11 continents and i get 24 bonuses. this is really mad. could there be a way to allways implement the highest bonus obtainable without using a card for more than one formation?

another example: if i have QQKKK it's a full, 2 one pair, 1 3 of i kind, and 1 two pairs.
and i have the following bonuses.
full +6
3 of a kind +3
2 pair +2
1 pair +1
i want to receive only the full house bonus.
and if next turn i lose one K i want to receive the 2 pair bonus and not the 2 one pair bonuses.

and another problem.

i have QQ KK and i get the +2 bonus for havin a 2 pair formation.
and another guy has JJJJ and gets +7 bonus for having 4 of a kind.
that's a 5 armies difference for owning the same number of cards.

in the current format where all cards can attack in any direction this is a real problem, but it could be solved by adding impassable borders. what do you say?


Hmmm... this is looking nastier and nastier...

If someone can get me the full possible combination of hands then I can have a think about it...

C.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:44 am
by DiM
yeti_c wrote:
Hmmm... this is looking nastier and nastier...

If someone can get me the full possible combination of hands then I can have a think about it...

C.


i think there are a few thousand combinations :wink: