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Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby j35t3r.us on Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:38 pm

Sooooo I was thinking...

Battlestar Galactica is a decent show, has some good ideas, and would make a great boardgame!

What better place to start than here?! So I came up with the basics, just need some help.

Only reason I didn't put this in the other section is because I'm not quite sure if I'm ready to design the map. I'd like someone with experience to start this so I don't ruin what could be a very exciting map trilogy... YES... I said TRILOGY! I want 3 maps done, I have the names, themes, and designs already thought out, just don't have the computer-ability to make them.




Just made this about 20min ago.

Yes, 100% MS PAINT!!! hahahahaha


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Anyways, this will be the FIRST map of the 3 I want to create.

It will be titled: Battlestar Galactica: Battle for Caprica.

The next two maps will be:
Battlestar Galactica: Resurrection Ship
Battlestar Galactica: Battle for Earth


For the first map: Battle for Caprica, I'd like to see a couple small dog fights between the vipers and raiders. The two main ships(Galactica and Basestar 1) duking it out, and the Colonial Ships sitting around doing nothing.


I have no idea on how I want the map to connect territories, I think I have an idea about the territory/country bonuses. I do need some help on the numbers though(ya'know, what stuff is worth).



On the second map(Resurrection Ship), I'd like the theme to be an all out ship war. HUGE numbers of Vipers/Raptors, TWO Battlestars(the Galactica and Pegasus), THREE Basestars, and the resurrection hub. The viper/raider squads will give bonuses, the battle/base stars will give bonuses and I want something special going on with the Resurrection Hub(maybe autodeploys?)

On the third map, Battle for Earth, I want there to be some ship fighting, some useless ship stuff, and some planet fighting. Maybe Earth has 2-3 country bonuses. There will be Galactica and a Broken Basestar on one side, and 3 bad Basestars on the other side, small dogfights between vipers and raiders. Maybe Raptor/Heavy Raider landing ships as attack/bombard points for earth??? Colonial ships can sit around and do nothing, but give bonuses or penalties depending on who controls? This is the third map, so I don't see it being made for a month or more.



Anyways, this is just a trial. I would like to be the major contributing factor and see these maps through to the end, but I don't wish to hamper the map-making style of someone who knows what they are doing to the point where it ruins my vision!




Anyone wanna take a stab at this??? I have answers to any questions you have regarding these maps. I will keep up with this thread daily.
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby gordon1975 on Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:46 pm

great show and idea,think it might have problems with copyright though :(
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby j35t3r.us on Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:53 pm

We can rename everything...

Hell, make it a Space Wars map!!!

I don't care... Just keep the idea... If you know Battlestar, you know what I mean... Just keep the big ship vs big ship protecting small ships, and little fighters vs little fighters idea.


We may be able to make it work even using the real names, who knows!
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby gordon1975 on Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:56 pm

j35t3r.us wrote:We can rename everything...

Hell, make it a Space Wars map!!!

I don't care... Just keep the idea... If you know Battlestar, you know what I mean... Just keep the big ship vs big ship protecting small ships, and little fighters vs little fighters idea.


We may be able to make it work even using the real names, who knows!



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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby miniwally on Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:48 pm

i don't think renaming everything gets around the copyright problems and did you draw those ships?
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby j35t3r.us on Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:56 pm

Renaming(if NEEDED) would solve everything.

The ships are all copy/pasted from random sites, however, the above map is to be used only as a guide for the actual map. I do like the idea about Big ships, fighter ships, smaller ships, maybe even attacking a planet and defending a space station. I would like the person(s) who is working on this with me to be Battlestar Fans so they at least are on the same page and we can communicate using Battlestar names/lingo, but rename to fit certain copyright stuff(if needed).
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby bryguy on Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:59 pm

Problem with this is copyright.


I love the idea of a space fight over earth (or a different planet) but please don't use copyrighted images

also, your not allowed to use paint to make maps ;)




I suggest making your own ships and planets, your own names, the entire thing. That way there is no copyright problems, cause just changing names might not solve everything.
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Postby oaktown on Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:10 pm

best show on television... not sure how the producers would feel about this though.
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Postby jim save on Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:22 pm

Im more of a stagate SG-1 Fan. I am working on a map for that too.
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby ustus on Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:54 pm

he's saying he's using the show as his inspiration, wants a map battling for a planet, big ship v.s. big ship, little ship v.s. little ship. no copyrights there, it could easily work. I for one think a battle over a planet would be great.. Each fighter is a terit, each squad of fighters and each capitol ship is a continent... I personally would love to be able to actually conquer the planet at some point :twisted: anyway, good luck with it.... I suggest not basing any ship designs off of the show, to completely avoid copyright, but if some one with a heck of a lot more art skill than I have could make the ships and put them on the map

maybe the planet starts with neutrals. and/or some defenders of the planet... and the objective is to hold the planet for a certain number of turns... oo sounds like fun...

or you could have simple classic gameplay with squadrons and capitol ships, maybe polar orbiting space stations and two fleets...

If you don't do the scenario version, I might... but I have no more experience than you do, so I'd need the same help - and worse, I don't know the show!!

on the other hand I'm a sci fi junkie so I probly know all the generic sci fi stuff.....
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby bryguy on Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:58 pm

ustus wrote:he's saying he's using the show as his inspiration, wants a map battling for a planet, big ship v.s. big ship, little ship v.s. little ship. no copyrights there, it could easily work. I for one think a battle over a planet would be great.. Each fighter is a terit, each squad of fighters and each capitol ship is a continent... I personally would love to be able to actually conquer the planet at some point :twisted: anyway, good luck with it.... I suggest not basing any ship designs off of the show, to completely avoid copyright, but if some one with a heck of a lot more art skill than I have could make the ships and put them on the map

maybe the planet starts with neutrals. and/or some defenders of the planet... and the objective is to hold the planet for a certain number of turns... oo sounds like fun...

or you could have simple classic gameplay with squadrons and capitol ships, maybe polar orbiting space stations and two fleets...

If you don't do the scenario version, I might... but I have no more experience than you do, so I'd need the same help - and worse, I don't know the show!!

on the other hand I'm a sci fi junkie so I probly know all the generic sci fi stuff.....



I would love to work on this, except Im working a project, so I probably wouldn't be able to :(

If your willing to learn stuff tho, I suggest you head over to http://www.solarvoyage.com/, as they have some great tutorials :)
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby j35t3r.us on Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:20 pm

Thank you all for the replies, the thing I am seeing most in common here is: You all like the idea, but can't get past the Copyrights.

I see one of you touched upon the idea I am trying to grasp at here: "Using the Battlestar idea, and making everything custom... AKA: Using the RISK boardgame, and changing all the names of the mechanics to Conquer Club." =)



The people I want helping me with this SHOULD BE Battlestar fans so they can correlate the names of stuff I say with new names we need to change. Aka: When I say I want 3 Basestars and 2 Battlestars, that means I want 3 badguy battleships and 2 good guy battleships. When I say we will be fighting for control of the Resserection Hub and Colonial One, I mean we will be fighting to control a large enemy ship and a small good ship. When I say I want 3 sets of 3 Vipers and 3 sets of 3 Raiders, that means I want a total of 18 small fighter ships(6 squads).



I will continue taking ideas. But so far I want to keep the Trilogy.




How about: Space Wars????


Space Wars: The battle of Earth
Space Wars: The Hive
Space Wars: The battle for Planet X





Space Wars 1: The Battle for Earth - This is Map #1 - This will be a 75% Space battle, 25% land battle. Very minimal territories on Earth, but plenty in space. Maybe 2 large battle ships and a squad or two each of fighters. The "fun stuff" here will be Earth will have a couple territories, maybe the moon as well? Perhaps the Hive(see #2) could make a cameo in here?

Space Wars 2: The Core - This is Map #2 - This will be 100% Space battle. All ships. This will be the largest space battle with multiple battleships and squads of fighters. The "fun stuff" will be the "Hive" which is a large enemy structure(picture Death Star). You don't win for holding it or anything, but you get random "fun" bonuses and stuff.

Space Wars 3: The Battle for Planet X - This is Map #3 - This will be 25% Space, 75% land battle. I want one 1 battleship and 1 squad in the air, meanwhile, there will be special "fun stuff" rules of landing parties, bombardment, etc etc, and normal Conquer Club land battles.


Perhaps we can make the objective of each map to control either the planet or the Hive? Who knows...


There's my ideas, sticking the the Battlestar theme but changing names and stuff. Thoughts?
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby bryguy on Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:44 pm

j35t3r.us wrote:Thank you all for the replies, the thing I am seeing most in common here is: You all like the idea, but can't get past the Copyrights.

I see one of you touched upon the idea I am trying to grasp at here: "Using the Battlestar idea, and making everything custom... AKA: Using the RISK boardgame, and changing all the names of the mechanics to Conquer Club." =)



The people I want helping me with this SHOULD BE Battlestar fans so they can correlate the names of stuff I say with new names we need to change. Aka: When I say I want 3 Basestars and 2 Battlestars, that means I want 3 badguy battleships and 2 good guy battleships. When I say we will be fighting for control of the Resserection Hub and Colonial One, I mean we will be fighting to control a large enemy ship and a small good ship. When I say I want 3 sets of 3 Vipers and 3 sets of 3 Raiders, that means I want a total of 18 small fighter ships(6 squads).



I will continue taking ideas. But so far I want to keep the Trilogy.




How about: Space Wars????


Space Wars: The battle of Earth
Space Wars: The Hive
Space Wars: The battle for Planet X





Space Wars 1: The Battle for Earth - This is Map #1 - This will be a 75% Space battle, 25% land battle. Very minimal territories on Earth, but plenty in space. Maybe 2 large battle ships and a squad or two each of fighters. The "fun stuff" here will be Earth will have a couple territories, maybe the moon as well? Perhaps the Hive(see #2) could make a cameo in here?

Space Wars 2: The Core - This is Map #2 - This will be 100% Space battle. All ships. This will be the largest space battle with multiple battleships and squads of fighters. The "fun stuff" will be the "Hive" which is a large enemy structure(picture Death Star). You don't win for holding it or anything, but you get random "fun" bonuses and stuff.

Space Wars 3: The Battle for Planet X - This is Map #3 - This will be 25% Space, 75% land battle. I want one 1 battleship and 1 squad in the air, meanwhile, there will be special "fun stuff" rules of landing parties, bombardment, etc etc, and normal Conquer Club land battles.


Perhaps we can make the objective of each map to control either the planet or the Hive? Who knows...


There's my ideas, sticking the the Battlestar theme but changing names and stuff. Thoughts?


I still like this idea, now that I know that there shouldn't be any copyright problems :)

but does it have to be Battle for Earth? how about something different, like Battle for Bob :lol:

For the Space Wars 2 map, can the "hive" bombard all ships?

For Space Wars 3, why not have it 50 50? half space, half land?

overall, I love the idea of this, and wish you luck with making this :)
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby ustus on Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:45 am

I like the idea! excited to see these come out. Almost makes me wish I knew the battlestar lingo so I could help ;) (don't worry, I'll find something else to make and just enjoy playing this one when it comes out; I'll keep track of your progress, see if I can still help at all)
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby j35t3r.us on Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:23 pm

Thanks for replies.

Working on renaming everything and figuring out attack patterns.


Checking out how all the space games play on here.
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby jesterhawk on Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:28 pm

I LOVE the show.

I see often in here problem with copyright. Couldn't someone just contact them and ask? I am not sure who we would contact, but if we had permission, we could do it. I made an Stargate SG-1 game once and contacted MGM for permission and they gave it to me for over a year to have stuff online about it until a company started making the card game for it and then they went to MGM and had me take it down. But the point was that I got permission to use the show images. Just a thought.

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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby Teflon Kris on Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:33 pm

Yep, we're exhausting planet earth for maps, time to seek the unknown
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby jesterhawk on Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:25 pm

If you took the episodes "Oath" and "Blood on the Scales" (the two dealing with the mutiny on the Galactica lead by Felix Gaeta) and did a concept on that (a spaceship mutiny/retake the ship) I think it would be cool. All we would have to do is create our own spaceship and name it so that it does not have any copyright issues. There would be places like CIC, Medical, Hanger Bay, Weapons Storage, Barracks, etc and bonus armies are different for each based on what they are (ie Barrack gets an extra bonus because the theory is that you can recruit more there, perhaps same with Hanger Bay).

Just a thought.

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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby j35t3r.us on Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:46 pm

Thanks for the input fellow Jester ;p


While I don't wish to mix the revolution you suggested into these three maps I've suggested, I would like to use your idea in a FOURTH MAP!!!!!

Perhaps an entire map comprised solely of the Battlestar and maybe a couple small ships.

Hanger decks, a raptor or two, Colonial one... But the main fighting will be aboard Galatica.
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Postby jesterhawk on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:36 am

Sounds cool to me :)

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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby ustus on Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:29 am

ok, sounds like you've got a great idea with a lot of support here. anything else you need before you start the first one?

good luck!
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby bryguy on Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:48 pm

ustus wrote:ok, sounds like you've got a great idea with a lot of support here. anything else you need before you start the first one?

good luck!



I believe he needs a graphics artist... ;)
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Re: Any Battlestar Galatica Fans out there???

Postby ustus on Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:28 pm

ok.... ummm... i'm not familiar with the show beyond the title, but i'd love to help. have a little experience with photoshop, nothing like this. just got elements installed. let me know if you'd like me to try, but i'm afraid i'm not really that qualified.
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