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how bout the west bank and the gaza strip??

Postby Civ guy on Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:55 pm

how about the west bank and the gaza strip Has this been done???
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Re: how bout the west bank and the gaza strip??

Postby 9mm on Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:13 am

You mean together? Don't we have a big problem with the gap in the middle called Israel?
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Re: how bout the west bank and the gaza strip??

Postby wcaclimbing on Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:24 am

The problem with maps of that area is that is is such a controversial area.
If I remember correctly from another thread about this idea, this map would be difficult to make without offending people. Some countries recognize Israel as a country, others don't. People disagree over which country controls which area, and assigning any specific area to a country would cause problems because lots of people will disagree with what you choose.

If you choose to include Israel, you get a lot of people posting to complain that Israel is not a country, that it should be part of another country.
If you don't include Israel, you would get lots of people asking "what did you do with Israel", because many other countries see Israel as a real country and would be mad that it isn't included.

Thats just one example, but I think you can get my point. I think the borders would be too controversial for this map to proceed easily.
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Re: how bout the west bank and the gaza strip??

Postby 9mm on Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:16 am

Who doesn't believe that Israel is a country?

At what point do we say someones feelings is given equal or greater weight to say the recognized status of Israel by say the United Nations, the United States, Great Britain, China, or Canada (they are a G8 nation).

If the map doesn't work, or if its just plain uninteresting, which is pretty much the only thing that matters, too bad... but to say lets not do it because someone might be offended because CC is recognizing a real nation seems... wrong.

I also noticed Taiwan on the World 2.0 map - now here is a country that officially many countries do not recognize... but thats okay? Or is okay to upset the Chinese nationalists among us but not the... sorry who are the Israel deniers?

I know that this isn't your opinion but from what you remember from a previous discussion.

Again, if it looks like a good map that is interesting.... seven tunnels to Egypt... etc then lets see it.
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Re: how bout the west bank and the gaza strip??

Postby wcaclimbing on Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:47 am

9mm wrote:Who doesn't believe that Israel is a country?


Here's a quote from the other thread:
this guy lives in jordan. I doubt english is his first language, but what he's saying is pretty clear.
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3Asefa wrote:dont have any country call isreal case this counrty called Paestain and jewish greed poeple europe no from nott need them and want to kick him out and isreal is a layer when he said that hetler kill them hitler suggestion is to make a country for jewish in africa . and u know that all big politcs persons in isreal was born in europe.and u take this land from palestinians and this country is for us and we r take it again .


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There are lots of places, mostly within the middle east, that don't recognize Israel as a country.

Just a note, Oaktown locked the original thread to prevent all the arguments that were about to happen.
There will most likely be even more controversy.
Here's the other thread, if you want to read it: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=60029

EDIT: and there have been plenty of comments from mods and CAs, including Andy and Lack, about the controversy around israel/palestine. Search the word "israel" in the map foundry and you could find quite a few posts about it.
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Re: how bout the west bank and the gaza strip??

Postby 9mm on Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:06 am

Interesting... and yet disturbing on so many levels.

And the last thing I want to do is waste my life argueing with someone about this... so one last short rant.


And on that note... the countries that don't recognize Israel (as per some nefarious web source)...

Algeria, Chad, Comoros, Djibouti, Guinea, Libya, Mali, Morocco, Niger, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia, Cuba, Republic of China (Taiwan), North Korea, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Maldives, Pakistan, Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, United Arab Emirates and Yemen

So thats 34 against and 159 for Israel. I guess we should let the 34 outvote the 159... I mean what is equality if not letting the minority be the majority... ROFL.


So how about that roulette map... what do you mean you don't recognize the 00 ? ....sigh....
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