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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:24 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Brady Quinn is still having nightmares from the beating LSU put on not a damn last year in the Sugar bowl. ND = most over rated team in college football. Even though I don't like USC they at least win when they play a good team instead of getting spanked like Not a damn does everytime they play a team that isn't playing for the commander in chief trophy


Brady Quinn had no help. Their defense was TERRIBLE, which put all the pressure on Quinn. While I think that the great QB could still win with a terrible defense, Quinn is still a very good QB. He was over-analyzed because he played his senior year, so EVERY game was criticized. Jamarcus Russell is just a one year wonder. He will go nowhere in the NFL, especially on the Raiders.

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Postby Gold Knight on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:26 pm

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Gold Knight wrote:Please, i would never post a question promoting ND, have you read my sig? :lol:


You're just mad that Brady Quinn didnt go to your college, probably even more mad that they're getting Jimmy Clausen as well.

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If Brady Quinn went to my college, they wouldnt be my college anymore...

Plus, why would I want a quarterback that can't handle pressure in COLLEGE, nonetheless being in the pros, where aany game can be your last.

And as for DO4, not the Cornhuskers...

Hint: Their mascot's name has more than one word.
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Postby Gold Knight on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:27 pm

misterman10 wrote:
Basically
Quinn= Eli Manning aka MR Overrated also cant handle pressureRussell= Ryan Leaf


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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:28 pm

Gold Knight wrote:
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Gold Knight wrote:Please, i would never post a question promoting ND, have you read my sig? :lol:


You're just mad that Brady Quinn didnt go to your college, probably even more mad that they're getting Jimmy Clausen as well.

GO FIGHTING IRISH!


If Brady Quinn went to my college, they wouldnt be my college anymore...

Plus, why would I want a quarterback that can't handle pressure in COLLEGE, nonetheless being in the pros, where aany game can be your last.

And as for DO4, not the Cornhuskers...

Hint: Their mascot's name has more than one word.


You talk about pressure? Going to notre dame is enough pressure as it is. Having no defense and having the game always put on your shoulders is even more pressure. It will be quite funny, when Quinn does better than Russell in the pros and everyone says they love quinn just like the leaf vs. manning
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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:29 pm

Gold Knight wrote:
misterman10 wrote:
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you havent even see Quinn play in the nfl, just FYI :lol: :lol: but at least you agree with russell=leaf
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Postby Nephilim on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:29 pm

please say it's not the nittany lions.....
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Postby Gold Knight on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:31 pm

Whats even funnier is that Quinn might not even start this year, even with the horrible quarterbacks of the Browns. And pressure? The only pressure they faced is when they went up agaist half decent teams who wrecked them on a regualr basis. ND is a great academic school, but academic schools will never be the best because a lot of the best pro athletes are downright stupid (ex. Michael Vick, Pacman Jones, Randy Moss, Jamal Lewis, etc.)
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:31 pm

He chose to go to ND. Only pressure he faced going there is avoiding the embarassment of losing to a service academy team since ND packs their schedule every year with them. Heck ND is dropping Michigan b/c Michigan is making them their little bitch. We'll see how Quinn does in relation to Russell although I loved seeing quinn drop that far. Granted probably a much better situation for quinn then what Russell is going into with Oakland though.

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Postby Gold Knight on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:32 pm

misterman10 wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
misterman10 wrote:
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Quinn= Eli Manning aka MR Overrated also cant handle pressureRussell= Ryan Leaf


Much better...


you havent even see Quinn play in the nfl, just FYI :lol: :lol: but at least you agree with russell=leaf


Leaf didnt have mobility like Russel has. Russel will be so-so on a lackluster offense but will be the deciding factor in a few games...

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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:32 pm

Gold Knight wrote:Whats even funnier is that Quinn might not even start this year, even with the horrible quarterbacks of the Browns. And pressure? The only pressure they faced is when they went up agaist half decent teams who wrecked them on a regualr basis. ND is a great academic school, but academic schools will never be the best because a lot of the best pro athletes are downright stupid (ex. Michael Vick, Pacman Jones, Randy Moss, Jamal Lewis, etc.)


That might be a good thing that Quinn doesnt start. You can't expect a rookie QB to do well, yet alone in cleveland. Even with a QB like drew brees, the browns would still not contend for a playoff spot so its good that Quinn gets to sit back a year and learn the game aka Philip Rivers
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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:33 pm

Gold Knight wrote:Leaf didnt have mobility like Russel has. Russel will be so-so on a lackluster offense but will be the deciding factor in a few games...


Russell has a potbelly :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:34 pm

Russell can take a hit and doesn't fold up like a little p*ssy when his line misses a blocking assignment.
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Postby Gold Knight on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:35 pm

Vince Young started last year and look how great he did, almost got a horrible team into the playoffs. Leinart didnt do half bad, and neither did Cutler. What were you saying about rookie QB's?

Sure, Rivers did great, but remove Tomlinson from that offense and he would've been eaten alive by the defenses. Having 8 men in the box is quite the luxury for a QB...
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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:35 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Russell can take a hit and doesn't fold up like a little p*ssy when his line misses a blocking assignment.


Cause he outweighs defensive lineman with his potbelly, Quinn is one of the toughest QB's in the game, get your facts straight :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:37 pm

Gold Knight wrote:Vince Young started last year and look how great he did, almost got a horrible team into the playoffs. Leinart didnt do half bad, and neither did Cutler. What were you saying about rookie QB's?

Sure, Rivers did great, but remove Tomlinson from that offense and he would've been eaten alive by the defenses. Having 8 men in the box is quite the luxury for a QB...


VY is the most overrated QB right behind Tony Romo. Yes, he did good his rookie year, but he didn't start right off the bat (probably the same with what Quinn will do). Leinart is in a STACKED offense and he too didnt start the season. Cutler, I must admit, did very well for a rookie, but he is also surrounded with talent on offense AND defense.
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Postby Gold Knight on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:37 pm

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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Russell can take a hit and doesn't fold up like a little p*ssy when his line misses a blocking assignment.


Cause he outweighs defensive lineman with his potbelly, Quinn is one of the toughest QB's in the game, get your facts straight :lol: :lol: :lol:


Quinn's a bitch, hes afraid of getting hit when in the pocket and makes some dumb decisions when under pressure. It helps when Notre Dame had one of the better O'lines in the nation.
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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:39 pm

Gold Knight wrote:
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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Russell can take a hit and doesn't fold up like a little p*ssy when his line misses a blocking assignment.


Cause he outweighs defensive lineman with his potbelly, Quinn is one of the toughest QB's in the game, get your facts straight :lol: :lol: :lol:


Quinn's a bitch, hes afraid of getting hit when in the pocket and makes some dumb decisions when under pressure. It helps when Notre Dame had one of the better O'lines in the nation.


One of the better O'lines in the nation? They were average at best. When you have a true freshman lining up at tackle thats not that great. How in the world is he afraid of getting hit? He got nailed tons of times in college and got right back up
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Postby Gold Knight on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:40 pm

misterman10 wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:Vince Young started last year and look how great he did, almost got a horrible team into the playoffs. Leinart didnt do half bad, and neither did Cutler. What were you saying about rookie QB's?

Sure, Rivers did great, but remove Tomlinson from that offense and he would've been eaten alive by the defenses. Having 8 men in the box is quite the luxury for a QB...


VY is the most overrated QB right behind Tony Romo. Yes, he did good his rookie year, but he didn't start right off the bat (probably the same with what Quinn will do). Leinart is in a STACKED offense and he too didnt start the season. Cutler, I must admit, did very well for a rookie, but he is also surrounded with talent on offense AND defense.


He didnt start off the bat cause Volek was awesome the year before and sucked balls at the beginning of the season. And rookie of the year usually isnt that overrated if he was picked over Reggie Bush... :roll:

Yeah, the cardinals planned to sit Leinart as well, but look how much better that team did overall when he was in. James rushing stats increased and the defense stepped up as well.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:40 pm

and how do you figure Quinn is one of the "toughest" qbs in the league lmao. Russell multiple times avoided sacks last year by being able to have the defensive linemen bounce off of him or at least fling the arm way down the field as he was wrapped up. The man has the strongest arm in the NFL right now accordign to the scouts.
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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:41 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:and how do you figure Quinn is one of the "toughest" qbs in the league lmao. Russell multiple times avoided sacks last year by being able to have the defensive linemen bounce off of him or at least fling the arm way down the field as he was wrapped up. The man has the strongest arm in the NFL right now accordign to the scouts.


strong arm does not equal successful QB. HE has more potential than quinn, i'll give ya that, but he is not a better pro QB than quinn at the moment
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:42 pm

If Quinn is getting knocked down by the service academy schools then it shows even more how pathetic he is to taking hits.
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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:42 pm

Gold Knight wrote:[He didnt start off the bat cause Volek was awesome the year before and sucked balls at the beginning of the season. And rookie of the year usually isnt that overrated if he was picked over Reggie Bush... :roll:

Yeah, the cardinals planned to sit Leinart as well, but look how much better that team did overall when he was in. James rushing stats increased and the defense stepped up as well.


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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:43 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:If Quinn is getting knocked down by the service academy schools then it shows even more how pathetic he is to taking hits.


How is taking hits Quinn's fault when they have an average offensive line. Russell couldn't read a defense to save his life
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Postby misterman10 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:44 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:defensive linemen bounce off of him


Potbelly and fat :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:48 pm

Too bad Not a damn doesn't play a real schedule. Then you would have proof of how tough a qb is. When you only play 4 decent teams a year, most qbs can get up from those hits.
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