POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 7 Town Win! Premium goes to Sully

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:54 pm

strike wolf wrote:*Draws sword* This is one of the few times that I actually like repeating myself. Cult is my least favorite role (after jester). I shall never join you. so tonka admits it...what count is mandy at right now?

Well, alternatively you could lose the game. All I can say is that we have a sweet benefits package.

by **strike wolf** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:56 pm

I will ask one question tonkaed...did anything interesting happen to you night 1?

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:57 pm

strike wolf wrote:I will ask one question tonkaed...did anything interesting happen to you night 1?

I didn't die trying to recruit Mr. Squirrel, which was kind of interesting.

by **strike wolf** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:57 pm

In that case my position stands.

by **pancakemix** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:59 pm

nagerous wrote:Whatever.

I guess I am properly compromised now instead of just semi-compromised.

Seems like you town have plenty of choices for the lynch but I will say take note what I suggested above pancake, it would be better for you than just straight lynching mandy. You could ask why trust me, but I mean there isn't much to gain from not trusting me, if you suspect mandy to have been cult recruited he can be lynched later in the game and that would appease edoc too.

Or you can go with tonka AKA Davy Jones plan.

Unvote

Lemme guess: Davy Jones' heart? Tonka already implied something to that effect.

Nag, if you don't want to answer, I'm sure Victor can.

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:59 pm

To be fair, I don't actually need you to join the cause, I just need a few people willing to join the cause.

by **nagerous** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:00 pm

Sorry, I don't understand your question. I don't even know the movies tbh.

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:02 pm

Attn Edoc:

Please don't give the name until you hammer Mandy. I think things work better for all involved that way.

Pancake: Can you clear up what I implied. Id prefer to say it directly if it all possible.

by **strike wolf** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:02 pm

Why does this remind me of greg wolf's star wars mafia....

In the movies, Davy Jones kept his heart in a chest...whoever was able to get Davy Jones heart controlled the flying dutchman and technically controlled the seas...however it was also the only way to kill Davy Jones which was important to Will Turner.

by **pancakemix** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:04 pm

What strike said. So my question is "Is tonka immune to anything atm as far as you know?"

I'd be surprised if it wasn't at work somehow.

by **strike wolf** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:07 pm

If it was at work...Beckett should have had the heart and he's dead...I suppose the last remaining mafia might have it but that seems unlikely...unless of course they were unaware that they even had it which sounds far fetched..

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:08 pm

pancakemix wrote:What strike said. So my question is "Is tonka immune to anything atm as far as you know?"

I'd be surprised if it wasn't at work somehow.

Let's be honest. If we look at this rationally, theres no need for it to really matter right?

Mafia members - you have an incentive to join the kill mandy bandwagon. While edoc may give your name away as he wins the game, he may give away the name of the other guy. If he does, then you are still in the grand prize sweepstakes! Either way, mafia is boned because as long as Mandy is alive, you have no chance.

Town members - Lets face it, the easiest way to a win for you guys is to join up. Yeah perhaps you can climb a mountain and pick off a few cult members, but that leaves the scums. And at somepoint Edoc will get killed, which makes the scum hunting more difficult.

Edoc - well obviously.

by **pancakemix** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:10 pm

got tonkaed wrote:
pancakemix wrote:What strike said. So my question is "Is tonka immune to anything atm as far as you know?"

I'd be surprised if it wasn't at work somehow.

Let's be honest. If we look at this rationally, theres no need for it to really matter right?

Well whether or not you can die is kinda important, isn't it?

strike wolf wrote:If it was at work...Beckett should have had the heart and he's dead...I suppose the last remaining mafia might have it but that seems unlikely...unless of course they were unaware that they even had it which sounds far fetched..

Agreed. And if it is at work, we're screwed.

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:12 pm

Well its only important if you don't take the offer on the table, which is a lot more sure than speculating as to whether or not I can die.

by **freezie** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:26 pm

Really? I was recruited? Nice try. I am not

Surely Victor you are trying to turn the night scene against me...But let me ask you this question:

Why would I have claimed, pointed out sparrow ( Cause obviously if I was recruited I would know how jones were ) getting the town closer to a win over cult? I am not THAT stupid.

However, it seems the course of action is clear to me: Why vote mandy? Keep Edoc's blooslust going a little longer, kill at least one recruit tonight and NK tonka, if victor/tonka aren't setting us up on something. And one of them already lied out loud...

Vote: Nagerous

Someone get a sword and off tonka..then we can think of Edoc.

( Smaller note....hooray for knowing what the game looks like again...without understanding anything from the first 40 pages XD )

by **strike wolf** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:28 pm

actually yeah this makes the most sense. This takes it from close to far away. vote nagerous and then we nk tonka. Deal with mandy tomorrow.

by **pancakemix** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:31 pm

freezie wrote:Why would I have claimed, pointed out sparrow ( Cause obviously if I was recruited I would know how jones were ) getting the town closer to a win over cult? I am not THAT stupid.

Because that is completely to your advantage if you are an unknown cult with none of your group revealed? Because lynching mandy would not lead to a town victory over cult if cult is unknown? Because that is only to your disadvantage in hindsight?

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:33 pm

Lynching nagerous would be a great idea...except for the fact that cult leaders usually die when they try to recruit scum.

by **freezie** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:34 pm

pancakemix wrote:
freezie wrote:Why would I have claimed, pointed out sparrow ( Cause obviously if I was recruited I would know how jones were ) getting the town closer to a win over cult? I am not THAT stupid.

Because that is completely to your advantage if you are an unknown cult with none of your group revealed? Because lynching mandy would not lead to a town victory over cult if cult is unknown? Because that is only to your disadvantage in hindsight?

Only a non-town would point out blatently that they would have lynched mandy if they knew they were sparrow at this point of the game..

Edoc did give us a few names, but any good townie wouldn't have lynched sparrow today. And we shouldn't lynch sparrow today, either.

At Tonka: Then by all means spare us the trouble and recruit edoc......Oh wait you didn't die day 1.

flawed logic is flawed

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:35 pm

flawed logic is flawed I agree, but so is balance of a game sometimes.

by **pancakemix** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:38 pm

freezie wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
freezie wrote:Why would I have claimed, pointed out sparrow ( Cause obviously if I was recruited I would know how jones were ) getting the town closer to a win over cult? I am not THAT stupid.

Because that is completely to your advantage if you are an unknown cult with none of your group revealed? Because lynching mandy would not lead to a town victory over cult if cult is unknown? Because that is only to your disadvantage in hindsight?

Only a non-town would point out blatently that they would have lynched mandy if they knew they were sparrow at this point of the game..

Edoc did give us a few names, but any good townie wouldn't have lynched sparrow today. And we shouldn't lynch sparrow today, either.

Edoc already cleared me of being mafia, first off. And tonka told me to join up. Unless you really want to play WIFOM here, I'm a safe bet to be town. And you've given me zero reason to believe you over Victor.

Vote Mandy again per my hypothetical scenarios.

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:39 pm

Also, it is dumb to recruit edoc. By lynching Mandy, 2 people leave the game. Recruiting edoc would mean numbers would have to be made up over a longer period of time.

by **Commander9** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:40 pm

pancakemix wrote:1. Why are we listening to the mafia traitor on who we should lynch? He doesn’t care about us. He just wants to win and walk away, which is why he wants us to lynch Mandy now or never. Who thinks that’s a good idea?
2. If we NK Jones, what stops one of the traitors from dying? Think about this. We can’t protect them both. I know this is WIFOMy, but the likelihood of either of them dying is highly likely and our free ticket goes out the window. Based on that, I’d rather keep around the one that can help us beat the guys who kill at night.
3. Why listen to the cult traitor on who we should lynch In case you forgot, the cult gets bigger each night. If we lynch one, they don’t lose anything because another joins their ranks as long as they have a recruiter. If we lynch one of the other recruits like Victor suggests, we just end up in deeper shit. I say cut off the head, find cult the hard way and make sure we kill the mafia.

Vote Tonka

EDIT: The more I think about this the more screwed town is. We lose Falko as soon as we kill Jones which means except for dumb luck, I doubt there is a likely scenario in which town comes out on top. All we can really do is lynch Mandy tomorrow and pray for a crosskill. Any other scenario ends in bad stuff.

I somewhat agree with this, but a big question - ousting culties might harder than mafia as they still have their true roles...

strike wolf wrote:scene flavor would suggest you were recruited nag...

This.

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Lol. Reading this was fun - and all of it happened while i wasn't around :-$

got tonkaed wrote:To be fair, I don't actually need you to join the cause, I just need a few people willing to join the cause.

Never.

pancakemix wrote:What strike said. So my question is "Is tonka immune to anything atm as far as you know?"

I'd be surprised if it wasn't at work somehow.

Which is why I'd rather lynch Mr. Jones or Nag.

freezie wrote:Really? I was recruited? Nice try. I am not

Surely Victor you are trying to turn the night scene against me...But let me ask you this question:

Why would I have claimed, pointed out sparrow ( Cause obviously if I was recruited I would know how jones were ) getting the town closer to a win over cult? I am not THAT stupid.

However, it seems the course of action is clear to me: Why vote mandy? Keep Edoc's blooslust going a little longer, kill at least one recruit tonight and NK tonka, if victor/tonka aren't setting us up on something. And one of them already lied out loud...

Vote: Nagerous

Someone get a sword and off tonka..then we can think of Edoc.

( Smaller note....hooray for knowing what the game looks like again...without understanding anything from the first 40 pages XD )

Somewhat agree with this - if we end edoc now, we lose a very valuable asset to town

by **freezie** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:41 pm

pancakemix wrote:
freezie wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
freezie wrote:Why would I have claimed, pointed out sparrow ( Cause obviously if I was recruited I would know how jones were ) getting the town closer to a win over cult? I am not THAT stupid.

Because that is completely to your advantage if you are an unknown cult with none of your group revealed? Because lynching mandy would not lead to a town victory over cult if cult is unknown? Because that is only to your disadvantage in hindsight?

Only a non-town would point out blatently that they would have lynched mandy if they knew they were sparrow at this point of the game..

Edoc did give us a few names, but any good townie wouldn't have lynched sparrow today. And we shouldn't lynch sparrow today, either.

Edoc already cleared me of being mafia, first off. And tonka told me to join up. Unless you really want to play WIFOM here, I'm a safe bet to be town. And you've given me zero reason to believe you over Victor.

Vote Mandy again per my hypothetical scenarios.

Read my post..I never said you were mafia..I was talking as a generallity. It wasn't to my advantage because most wouldn't want to kill sparrow.

by **safariguy5** on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:43 pm

Vote Count

edoc(1)- mandy
Victor(4)- sheep, tails, /, edoc
sheep(1)- falko
mandy(4)- Yoshi, nag, pcm, gt
nag(2)- freezie, strike

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.