Re: (GON 3rd game)Town wins. Day 5

[crasp]

All the roles in this game are here. Also posted in the first page.
http://brianlance.net/mscumB.swf
All roles would be standard and night roles unless otherwise stated.

[legionnare]

Why did kill specifically say Tuffy wouldn't like his role? perhaps we need to push for Tuffy to claim?

Fp'd by a cow

Probably because if Gab is right and Kill is vengeful Townie then Tuffy would be his target to kill.

[mookiemcgee]

Yeah leg thats probably it. also maybe:


forensic investigator or jack of all trades?

[DB4Christ]

@DB4 true although as I said you seem to be keeping your head down other than to ask for night actions, by all accounts keeping silent with just the minimum number of posts is scummy I am unsure what to make of you. Have you no input as to what each player's role is/isn't?
I want answers to the claimed power roll night actions! I am not going to trust anything or anyone at this point without reports. Sirious is a good enough player to be lying in a convincing manner, and what he suggest is equally possible. If I were scum, and I had a role blocker....I would have blocked Sirious. It makes sense for their gain. The long and short of it is this, with the power roll claims we have, if Sirious was blocked by a mafia role blocker, our other professed townie power roles should have reports....at least one. If not, then someone is lying about having a town power role, thus their scum....I think you all can figure out who that would be. I say we demand a report...that is the only way to gain clarity for this critical vote. All else is just conjecture and a pitiful waste of night action intelligence!!

[legionnare]

Yeah leg thats probably it. also maybe:


forensic investigator or jack of all trades?

I'm pretty sure Jack of all Trades only acts at night, Forensic was my thought as well.

[legionnare]

@DB4 true although as I said you seem to be keeping your head down other than to ask for night actions, by all accounts keeping silent with just the minimum number of posts is scummy I am unsure what to make of you. Have you no input as to what each player's role is/isn't?
I want answers to the claimed power roll night actions! I am not going to trust anything or anyone at this point without reports. Sirious is a good enough player to be lying in a convincing manner, and what he suggest is equally possible. If I were scum, and I had a role blocker....I would have blocked Sirious. It makes sense for their gain. The long and short of it is this, with the power roll claims we have, if Sirious was blocked by a mafia role blocker, our other professed townie power roles should have reports....at least one. If not, then someone is lying about having a town power role, thus their scum....I think you all can figure out who that would be. I say we demand a report...that is the only way to gain clarity for this critical vote. All else is just conjecture and a pitiful waste of night action intelligence!!

KE3 did, he vouched for Mookie same as he vouched for Joak in D2
Sirius claimed he was blocked
There is only 1 night report we haven't got, the Doc's and I see no gain in revealing who the Doc protected as the Mafia still managed to kill their target.

[legionnare]

I'm sorry mookie I had a feeling for some reason that you were scum but now I know for sure that you are townie 100%

Here is KE3's vouch for Mookie DB4

[Gabsensei]

so far im sre at 95% that kill is scum and if by any mean he is a townie and is a vengefull townie he still get a kill

[mookiemcgee]

Those of you who want to vote for Kill, If indeed he is lynched and is who we are inferring his claim to be, and he is able to take someone out with him we still need to find a Mafia candidate so Kill knows who to go after. It sounds like he wants to go after Tuffy. So then the mafia overnight will kill most likely KE3, joak or myself.

[mookiemcgee]

That means the town is left with 2 reported town people. That is whether or not you believe KE3 is cop, he is the only "night report" info relevant to living people, with the exception of Gabs being vouched by TC but it sounds like even that is in question.

Or Kill is Mafia, he's out and basically the Mafia will most likely kill KE3 overnight. IDK my head hurts from overthinking this.

[King Edward 3rd]

Here are the 4 who pretty much immediately voted Sirius:

King Ed
Gabs
Mookie
Myself

The first three are all known townies correct? Those four votes were hanging out there long enough for the mafia to drop the hammer. Didn't happen right? Instead, mafia like Tuffy came in and started lobbing stupid accusations at me.

Why am I pushing for a quick kill? Because we all agreed that no revival was an immediate day 3 lynch for Serious. Once again, immediate. My voting history and previous alliances should show all that I am a townie. We have 2 full days of info to go on. To all the townie's out there, don't let Tuffy try to claim that I made some scum slip here in Day 3 because I am proposing we do what we all agreed on. I am the one who pushed hard for Justplay and we got rid of the SK right?
I agree with this post If Sirius was the reviver why didn't the rest of the scum drop the rest of the votes needed to lynch him. I've claimed my role as reg. town cop & I checked joak & Mookie & they are 100% town. I think Sirius is a very smart player & knows the roles very well & can make a lot of players believe his story. He even hinted that I might be not be telling the truth but Mookie & joak both confirmed that I knew they were townies. And there is no counter claim to my claim. I still believe Sirius is Mafia scum so my vote stays on him . I'd also like to know who the confirmed townies want me to check out tonight.
If you all decide to lynch me, you will be down another townie and the same questions surrounding Moo will exist in day 4. And Gabs, I am disappointed and confused by your vote.

I am a regular townie with one special "skill". A skill that someone like Tuffy may not appreciate.

Once again, 4 votes were out there long enough for the mafia to drop the hammer.....it did not happen. My vote remains unchanged.

[King Edward 3rd]

Sorry I submitted the wrong quote

[King Edward 3rd]

Here are the 4 who pretty much immediately voted Sirius:

King Ed
Gabs
Mookie
Myself

The first three are all known townies correct? Those four votes were hanging out there long enough for the mafia to drop the hammer. Didn't happen right? Instead, mafia like Tuffy came in and started lobbing stupid accusations at me.

Why am I pushing for a quick kill? Because we all agreed that no revival was an immediate day 3 lynch for Serious. Once again, immediate. My voting history and previous alliances should show all that I am a townie. We have 2 full days of info to go on. To all the townie's out there, don't let Tuffy try to claim that I made some scum slip here in Day 3 because I am proposing we do what we all agreed on. I am the one who pushed hard for Justplay and we got rid of the SK right?
I agree with this post why didn't the mafia dump the rest of the votes needed on Sirius to lynch him. I claimed that I am the reg. town cop & checked out joak & Mookie & they are 100% townies. Sirius is a very good player & knows the roles very well I can see how he might be able to talk other players into believing his story. He hinted that I might not be telling the truth about my claim bot both joak & Mookie confirmed that I knew they are townies & there was no counter claim to my claim. My vote stays on Sirius
If you all decide to lynch me, you will be down another townie and the same questions surrounding Moo will exist in day 4. And Gabs, I am disappointed and confused by your vote.

I am a regular townie with one special "skill". A skill that someone like Tuffy may not appreciate.

Once again, 4 votes were out there long enough for the mafia to drop the hammer.....it did not happen. My vote remains unchanged.

[mookiemcgee]

Its hard to tell where its quoted, by I assume the quote ends at "SK right?", and king ed is "I agree with this post" ?

[King Edward 3rd]

For some reason my post isn't coming up on the quote. I agree with the post why didn't mafia dump the rest of the votes to lynch Sirius. Sirius hinted that I might not be telling the truth about my claim as the reg. town cop. I checked out joak & Mookie & they are 100% townies. They both said that they believed me because I knew they were townies & there was no counter claim to my claim. Sirius is a very good player & knows the roles very well. He seems to be trying to convince some players to believe his story but I don't. So my vote remains on him.

[mookiemcgee]

Here are the 4 who pretty much immediately voted Sirius:

King Ed
Gabs
Mookie
Myself

The first three are all known townies correct? Those four votes were hanging out there long enough for the mafia to drop the hammer. Didn't happen right? Instead, mafia like Tuffy came in and started lobbing stupid accusations at me.

Why am I pushing for a quick kill? Because we all agreed that no revival was an immediate day 3 lynch for Serious. Once again, immediate. My voting history and previous alliances should show all that I am a townie. We have 2 full days of info to go on. To all the townie's out there, don't let Tuffy try to claim that I made some scum slip here in Day 3 because I am proposing we do what we all agreed on. I am the one who pushed hard for Justplay and we got rid of the SK right?

I agree with this post why didn't the mafia dump the rest of the votes needed on Sirius to lynch him. I claimed that I am the reg. town cop & checked out joak & Mookie & they are 100% townies. Sirius is a very good player & knows the roles very well I can see how he might be able to talk other players into believing his story. He hinted that I might not be telling the truth about my claim bot both joak & Mookie confirmed that I knew they are townies & there was no counter claim to my claim. My vote stays on Sirius
If you all decide to lynch me, you will be down another townie and the same questions surrounding Moo will exist in day 4. And Gabs, I am disappointed and confused by your vote.

OK KE3 I'm glad to hear you say this. I agree with what you said, and although Kill was getting defensive and may still be suspicious of him I think we have to stay on Sirius. Leg, Sirius, Tuffy, and Gabs have all given good evidence against Kill, but they haven't explained to my satisfaction why the hammer didn't drop on Sirius with so many confirmed Townies voting for him.

[King Edward 3rd]

I see what happened I didn't post down below the quote all the way sorry

[legionnare]

1- Kill is the only mafia who voted for me, the 2 others hesitated because they didn't wanted to be all 3 in the voting list for me. If they were all 3 in there voting for me, and then the town found out who I was, they would be figured out very quickly.

As pointed out by Sirius if Kill is mafia the other 2 would have hesitated putting themselves on the voting list that hung him. Once again this is assuming that Sirius is being truthful about his role.

[legionnare]

1- Kill is the only mafia who voted for me, the 2 others hesitated because they didn't wanted to be all 3 in the voting list for me. If they were all 3 in there voting for me, and then the town found out who I was, they would be figured out very quickly.

As pointed out by Sirius if Kill is mafia the other 2 would have hesitated putting themselves on the voting list that hung him. Once again this is assuming that Sirius is being truthful about his role.

@Mookie this is the best explanation for why the hammer didn't come down on Sirius.

[Gabsensei]

1- Kill is the only mafia who voted for me, the 2 others hesitated because they didn't wanted to be all 3 in the voting list for me. If they were all 3 in there voting for me, and then the town found out who I was, they would be figured out very quickly.

As pointed out by Sirius if Kill is mafia the other 2 would have hesitated putting themselves on the voting list that hung him. Once again this is assuming that Sirius is being truthful about his role.

@Mookie this is the best explanation for why the hammer didn't come down on Sirius.

and even if they wanted maybe they were not all there before i unvote and then did not see the oportunity

[mookiemcgee]

1- Kill is the only mafia who voted for me, the 2 others hesitated because they didn't wanted to be all 3 in the voting list for me. If they were all 3 in there voting for me, and then the town found out who I was, they would be figured out very quickly.

As pointed out by Sirius if Kill is mafia the other 2 would have hesitated putting themselves on the voting list that hung him. Once again this is assuming that Sirius is being truthful about his role.

@Mookie this is the best explanation for why the hammer didn't come down on Sirius.

Yes, but I'm not convinced by that. At this stage if they could end the day taking out 1 town power role via lynch and another overnight (likely KE3 our last townie that could provide any reports) I really think they would have taken the risk and done it. We would be completely blind from here on out, but that didn't happen, instead we only got 4 votes in the initial push and then people started changing to Kill. Which truly makes me believe that Sirius is Mafia, sorry man but I'm putting back my vote Sirius in solidarity with those I know to be town.

FP Gab - Lets put them back in the same position then?

[Killuminati19]

I am getting more and more disturbed by Gabs nonchalant attitude towards lynching townies. If I were to be lynched, I'm half tempted to take you down out of spite. You are not helping!

Moo, quit saying things like "My vote remains on Kill" like you are one of us. You are mafia and your vote means nothing. At this point, anything Legionairre says should be tossed out the window as well.

@ Mookie

If anyone has offered up good points on why I am suspicious, I have yet to see it. You have three days worth of my actions to go off of. I have aligned myself with assumed townies the entire time. I had every intention of honoring the immediate day 3 lynch of Sirius. Sad that most of you have let him talk you out of it.

And where the hell is Tuffy? That should tell you all something.

FP'd by Gabs and Mookie

[Gabsensei]

I am getting more and more disturbed by Gabs nonchalant attitude towards lynching townies. If I were to be lynched, I'm half tempted to take you down out of spite. You are not helping!

Moo, quit saying things like "My vote remains on Kill" like you are one of us. You are mafia and your vote means nothing. At this point, anything Legionairre says should be tossed out the window as well.

@ Mookie

If anyone has offered up good points on why I am suspicious, I have yet to see it. You have three days worth of my actions to go off of. I have aligned myself with assumed townies the entire time. I had every intention of honoring the immediate day 3 lynch of Sirius. Sad that most of you have let him talk you out of it.

And where the hell is Tuffy? That should tell you all something.

FP'd by Gabs and Mookie

well if you so wish to do so take me down with you and make townies lose one of their best power role all im saying i had you on my suspect list since a while but that agressiong of yours and some little thing you said make me stick my vote on you

[charm]

Wow, very interesting, especially from Kill!! I'm so confused on that boy - his aggressive behavior could make sense either way.

The one thing I am feeling more and more confident about is KE3 specifically because no one else has claimed the Cop role.

However, maybe I missed it, did TC's night action as the bus driver get carried out or did the mafia action get completed before the switch occurred? But if KE3 is the cop, why wasn't he killed last night? I would have expected KE3 to be targeted.

Do we gain anything by lynching Sirius early in the day vs end of the day?
Will the mod have to do a kill story right away?

[Killuminati19]

I am getting more and more disturbed by Gabs nonchalant attitude towards lynching townies. If I were to be lynched, I'm half tempted to take you down out of spite. You are not helping!

Moo, quit saying things like "My vote remains on Kill" like you are one of us. You are mafia and your vote means nothing. At this point, anything Legionairre says should be tossed out the window as well.

@ Mookie

If anyone has offered up good points on why I am suspicious, I have yet to see it. You have three days worth of my actions to go off of. I have aligned myself with assumed townies the entire time. I had every intention of honoring the immediate day 3 lynch of Sirius. Sad that most of you have let him talk you out of it.

And where the hell is Tuffy? That should tell you all something.

FP'd by Gabs and Mookie

well if you so wish to do so take me down with you and make townies lose one of their best power role all im saying i had you on my suspect list since a while but that agressiong of yours and some little thing you said make me stick my vote on you

I hope you do well with your power role because you are proving to be useless during the day. Once again, Tuffy, you out there?