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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby zimmah on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:12 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:I have not received a PM other then the day has begun.

Stop being cryptic. If you know something speak up.


i don't i only know something happened to you, and noone visited you.

i think i clam may be in order.

i'm the town watcher.

Night 1 SG7 visited /
Night 2 Spiesr visited SG7
Night 3 I watched samgrossy, he was not visited. (I also recieved a baseball bat, which i still have, but this is unrelated to my role as far as i know)
Night 4 I watched IB, he was not visited, but something happened to him. (i am not sure what though)

i think it's a good move to spill this info in case i get killed.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby jonty125 on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:25 pm

zimmah wrote:Night 4 I watched IB, he was not visited, but something happened to him. (i am not sure what though)


How do you know that something happened to him?
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:30 pm

If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby zimmah on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:51 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?


how the hell should i know.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby jonty125 on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:52 pm

zimmah wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?


how the hell should i know.


Well it is your role. Is there any flavour associated when it says "something happened" to IB.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby zimmah on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:54 pm

not at all, i found it very weird that anything could even happen to him while nobody visited him. i don't have any clue what it could be.

unless maybe he's the '???' guy, but in that case i think he's not harmful.

otherwise maybe someone did something to him the night before, and it only triggered just now.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:55 pm

zimmah wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?


how the hell should i know.


No need to get testy.

I also see that a defibrillator was removed from the game. Perhaps someone tried to do something to me with an item? I obviously was not killed. perhaps I was protected or blocked or something?
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby zimmah on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:56 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
zimmah wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?


how the hell should i know.


No need to get testy.

I also see that a defibrillator was removed from the game. Perhaps someone tried to do something to me with an item? I obviously was not killed. perhaps I was protected or blocked or something?


that's the thing, you were not targeted by anyone. (except for me, who just watched you)

the thing that happened to you must have come from yourself, a ninja, or a previous action.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:38 pm

thehippo8 wrote:I love the way that everyone is avoiding everyone else and not answering any questions!

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I would think someone standing on the sidelines asking stupid questions would be worse.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby samgrossy on Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:24 pm

For what its worth, ??? was taken off the win list. It seems that we have a re-entry that we may want to be careful of?
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby jonty125 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:13 am

samgrossy wrote:For what its worth, ??? was taken off the win list. It seems that we have a re-entry that we may want to be careful of?


What are you trying to say? The scene still says ??? has won, but is still playing.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby thehippo8 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:34 am

@ Zimmah ... Ok, assuming whatever happened to IB he is unaware of, I can only but come back to Zimmah's claim.

Town watcher, huh? Well Sam would not know that nothing happened to him, so he's no help. Without SG7 to assis tthat doesn't help. Spiesr is mafia and is gone. So, in short, nothing you have said is either helpful or verifiable.

So let's go back to the claim. Town watcher. Mafia watch town don't they? And I suspect we only have one or two mafia left. It's worth taking the punt now that you are fibbing.

But before I jump to conclusions, I'm going back to do a retrospective.

Day 1: You are on to pershy for lying low - we all now know what he was up to! You then lie low yourself before voting IB. You Fos Vode for bad reasoning (including saying you, pershy and neb were a bit off). You take your vote off IB (because you said it made you look scummy) and vote happyfeet (who was town and got lynched). You unvote because you say that you didn't realise he was at L1 (really, you? you should - no I reckon you did - know). But then you revoted (looking townish but really?).

Day 2: You start by saying someone knows who did the kill - in retrospect did you mean you knew? Heat comes on spiesr (mafia) and you do what you can to deflect that - particularly here but Vode was too far gone and so you join that bandwagon and the mafia godfather is lynched.

Day 3: You start by protecting spiesr again here and point to yomiel or IB. You even go so far as to use the arguments of spiesr, pershy and IB to build the case on yomiel - but this is all about drawing the crowd away from spiesr. Then there is the strange vonversation here and here between yourself and spiesr. The game goes off track but you are sure not to get involved in the Epi lynch, although you try and look like you are doing something but cannot deflect another mafia getting lynched.

Day 4: You launch into / asking if he got anything night one (as if you know something). Let me pause here and go back to your claim. You say that you saw GS7 visit /. You don't make any suggestion in your claim that you can do anything other than watch so how would you know about / getting anything day 1 unless the magician told you? And how could that happen unless you are mafia? There is also another anomaoly in that post. You said there that you will not use the bat but now you say that you don't think it has anything to do with you? As to the bat there is this post in which you said you received the bat after the attack but before daybreak? This was odd and in retrospect probably an agreement between mafia. We now know the thief (pershy) did not have the axe (if there ever was an axe) which makes me wonder whether the bat is used for killing! You then deflect from Sam by saying he's probably cleared. Then there is this post in which you try and deflect away from the bat by saying it has gone but now you say you still have it - that was confusing (forgetful?). Anyway, the heat comes on spiesr again and you try and deflect and again here and here (in which incidentally you raise the clever suggestion that you are concerned about being set up by being handed the bat) and here. But spiesr gives you the green light to joing in the inevitable in this post and so you join the throng by saying this but not actually voting and then there is the lynch. You looked townie by the last comment but still didn't lynch.

Day 5: You seem to be floundering. Maybe it's the depressing well of eternal loneliness or the pit of dissolution sublime. But from here you are looking a bit desparate.

Anyway, there is more than enough here for a case in anyone's book.

vote Zimmah

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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby zimmah on Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:00 am

Samgrossy replaced sg7, which makes me believe Sam is town because he was visited by Spiesr. Unfortunately I don't have much else, but thats no reason to claim I'm lying.

Most of your arguments I don't even have any idea what you're talking about.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:01 am

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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby samgrossy on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:19 pm

jonty125 wrote:
samgrossy wrote:For what its worth, ??? was taken off the win list. It seems that we have a re-entry that we may want to be careful of?


What are you trying to say? The scene still says ??? has won, but is still playing.


Sorry, jonty's right. I was confused between the scene and the First post by the mod. The scene shows ??? while post 1 only shows pershy. It was late, I was confused. Sorry again...
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby pershy on Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:33 am

Oh cool I won. Nice! I thought I'd never fulfill my win condition with all these items changing hands etc. Yeay I managed to hoard some. Well, looks like I've been endgamed so GL to the rest of you. Wish I was still in it as was enjoying playing with you and will follow the game to its conclusion with interest. Cheers crazy for a great game. Have fun all and see u in the next one.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby thehippo8 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:52 am

While jonty and sam so a little dance ... all hail the funk of funky that is perhsy with the hershy ...

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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:22 am

So why did everyone suddenly dissappear? Hippo steps up to the plate and smacks Zimmah hard and no one has anything thing to say?

What strikes me is that Zimmah you are strangely quiet. You usually fight tooth and nail and never shy from a good fight. Here nary a peep.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby zimmah on Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:40 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:So why did everyone suddenly dissappear? Hippo steps up to the plate and smacks Zimmah hard and no one has anything thing to say?

What strikes me is that Zimmah you are strangely quiet. You usually fight tooth and nail and never shy from a good fight. Here nary a peep.


that's because i don't know what hippo means, none of his arguments make any sense.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby zimmah on Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:42 am

and besides, my usual strategy usually only gets more people voting me anyway, so i try a different approach. if you don't believe my claim, by all means lynch me. all the information i have is on the table anyway.

the only thing you'll lose when i die is someone who can find scum if i'm lucky enough to target the same person who is getting night killed.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby / on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:10 pm

zimmah wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:I have not received a PM other then the day has begun.

Stop being cryptic. If you know something speak up.


i don't i only know something happened to you, and noone visited you.

i think i clam may be in order.

i'm the town watcher.

Night 1 SG7 visited /
Night 2 Spiesr visited SG7
Night 3 I watched samgrossy, he was not visited. (I also recieved a baseball bat, which i still have, but this is unrelated to my role as far as i know)
Night 4 I watched IB, he was not visited, but something happened to him. (i am not sure what though)

i think it's a good move to spill this info in case i get killed.

Samgrossy, can you confirm this?
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby samgrossy on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:14 pm

I can confirm that that I visited you night one. Yes.

Sorry about the stall, I'll read up Hippo's post. RL is pain sometimes.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby / on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:25 pm

hmmm.... well hippo is sort of trying to lynch a claimed watcher that I already claimed was town, and had claimed the role as unverifiable, despite it being verified with one simple question as I just demonstrated, but on the other hand I can't put 100% faith into my results, I'll need to think this over after I catch up on my sleep.
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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby zimmah on Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:05 pm

samgrossy wrote:I can confirm that that I visited you night one. Yes.

Sorry about the stall, I'll read up Hippo's post. RL is pain sometimes.


Seems to me like he (hippo) was trying to make a case look good by pulling random quotes and such and putting things in retrospect while the matter of fact is that townies don't know who is town and who is not, so I obviously have no future knowledge of who to vote and who not to vote. My voting patterns are based on guesses, so he, there's a realistic chance I never vote scum and I vote all the townies, so what? If town knew who to vote it would be too easy.

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Re: Too many Items Mafia (7/14) Day 5: 2 Less People

Postby samgrossy on Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:50 pm

I do have a question though, so before I really start investigating a lot here, I was not visited N3, but I did visit someone N3. Can a watcher only look one way, meaning can he see only who visits me and not who I visit?
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