GODFATHER MAFIA - FINALLY OVER! CORLEONES WIN!!!

[rebelman]

MAFIA RULES



5. Once your death scene has been posted, you are dead. You can no longer post anything revealing or of substance. You may post an "oh shit" post but anything of substance will result in a ban in any future games hosted by me.

wiki still having a vote seems to contradict rule 5 above

[mandalorian2298]

I don't think there's much to the whole Selin thing, although I guess if the mafia have a cop it could be someone they know to be a pro-town power role. Or could always be a double bluff, but I don't think its worth reading that much into it. I really have no idea who the best lynch target is, I found AD's post-

Because he is Michael Corleone, and needs to be offed next.

as to why Wicked mentioned Selin very unconvincing as I think someone mentioned earlier. Wicked is not an idiot and neither is AD.

I don't think its enough to vote on though

A post filled with strong-willed indecisiveness punctuated by the historical "Maybe!". Thanks Icedagger, you really helped a lot.

[wicked]

Don't believe everything you read.

[firth4eva]

i genuinely think selin is a job for / to investigate tonight. When wiki named him she was already on the way out so its highly unlikely he is in the corleone family he is either in the other mafia family or a townie. One thing is now certain though / needs to be protected constantly as he is a sane cop despite all the speculation to the contrary. As for our target for today i need to read back and see if anything leaps out. one other thing we can be sure of is anarkist's dream is not in the corleone family as wiki would not have stolen the vote of one of her own.

This is a doubtful speculation but speculation nonetheless:
What if wicked didn't steal smeone's vote and then told AD to say he had his vote stolen so it looked lke AD was town?

And wicked: stop thread jacking and generally trying to piss people off/get attention

[Talapus]

Seriously, the only reason wicked got offed was because the bandwagon was 3 votes shy of a lynching. Whoever killed her did so they could get their day kill in (Day 1 we had 2). So I'm really not sure anything can be obtained from the Name drop of Selin either. Wicked might be vidictive, but she's not entirely stupid. I think the odds of / being able to investigate Selin tonight though are greatly deminished...especially if there is a role bloker in the game. As for the vote from Kalish....well, that just kinda came out of the blue. He wouldn't place a random vote like that with little to no explanation. So maybe rigg tried bribing Kalish or kalish got some kind of information on rigg's role. Either way, I want to hear from both of them before I cast my vote.

[Anarkistsdream]

i genuinely think selin is a job for / to investigate tonight. When wiki named him she was already on the way out so its highly unlikely he is in the corleone family he is either in the other mafia family or a townie. One thing is now certain though / needs to be protected constantly as he is a sane cop despite all the speculation to the contrary. As for our target for today i need to read back and see if anything leaps out. one other thing we can be sure of is anarkist's dream is not in the corleone family as wiki would not have stolen the vote of one of her own.

This is a doubtful speculation but speculation nonetheless:
What if wicked didn't steal smeone's vote and then told AD to say he had his vote stolen so it looked lke AD was town?

And wicked: stop thread jacking and generally trying to piss people off/get attention

How about you believe it because Nagerous even wrote that in his vote count post?

[Anarkistsdream]

I don't think there's much to the whole Selin thing, although I guess if the mafia have a cop it could be someone they know to be a pro-town power role. Or could always be a double bluff, but I don't think its worth reading that much into it. I really have no idea who the best lynch target is, I found AD's post-

Because he is Michael Corleone, and needs to be offed next.

as to why Wicked mentioned Selin very unconvincing as I think someone mentioned earlier. Wicked is not an idiot and neither is AD.

I don't think its enough to vote on though

A post filled with strong-willed indecisiveness punctuated by the historical "Maybe!". Thanks Icedagger, you really helped a lot.

hahaha. Mandalorian2298, you rascally bastard. Don't be so NICE to people.

[firth4eva]

Good point. I skim.

*sits in mandy's hole*

[mandalorian2298]

Those are exactly the two I am waiting on.

I am curious why he just immediately voted Riggable.

Usually scum doesn't do that, for fear of looking scummy, so we shall see what his reasons were.

As for Selin. If no one has investigated him yet, I suggest '/' investigates him tonight, and whomever is the doctor protects him.

At this point I would like to repeat (with even greater conviction) that you my friend, belong to the non-Corleone Mafia. Furthermore, if this proves true, then Wicked might be right about / being Mafia Cop (also non-Corleone Mafia).

To Wicked: Could you ban Wicked from Forum Games for posting post mortem in Mafia games (she is a repeated offender ). Thanks in advance.

You are more than willing to investigate me.

Not only will my role be in blue, but it will make you happy that I have not been NKed yet.

And I could just as easily say that this reverse psychology trick is to try and take the heat off of you and put it on me.

So far, I have been nothing but helpful to the town, which should prove my innocence.

Second, I have been honest and forthcoming with why I have my reasons for believing things the way they are, having what is probably the most Godfather trivia in my head.

Third, I have already had to point several things out to you due to you missing them.

If any of these things make me look scummy, then sorry, but I am only trying to help the TOWN win, not any scum group.

On the third point, all I can say is: .

Concerning your second point: Of course you were. Nobody lies in Mafia games. (though your mastery of the Godfather trivia is indeed enviable )

Concerning your first point, you have indeed been very helpfull to the Town AND to the non-Corleone Mafia. This only proves that you aren't with the Corleones, not that you are pro-Town. The reason why I believe that you are part of non-Corleone Mafia lies in the fact that you have been quick both to go after Selin and to dismiss the possibility of / being Mafia Cop. Thus, lynching you has, in my oppinion, the best chance of hitting the non-Corleone Mafia, since it can bag us two Mobsters for the price of one (if you are Mafia, that increases the probability of / being Mafia Cop).

[mandalorian2298]

I don't think there's much to the whole Selin thing, although I guess if the mafia have a cop it could be someone they know to be a pro-town power role. Or could always be a double bluff, but I don't think its worth reading that much into it. I really have no idea who the best lynch target is, I found AD's post-

Because he is Michael Corleone, and needs to be offed next.

as to why Wicked mentioned Selin very unconvincing as I think someone mentioned earlier. Wicked is not an idiot and neither is AD.

I don't think its enough to vote on though

A post filled with strong-willed indecisiveness punctuated by the historical "Maybe!". Thanks Icedagger, you really helped a lot.

hahaha. Mandalorian2298, you rascally bastard. Don't be so NICE to people.

Lol. It was just a joke, I don't plan to get into a SERIOUS argument with dagger should he find himself insulted.

[Anarkistsdream]

Concerning your first point, you have indeed been very helpfull to the Town AND to the non-Corleone Mafia. This only proves that you aren't with the Corleones, not that you are pro-Town. The reason why I believe that you are part of non-Corleone Mafia lies in the fact that you have been quick both to go after Selin and to dismiss the possibility of / being Mafia Cop. Thus, lynching you has, in my oppinion, the best chance of hitting the non-Corleone Mafia, since it can bag us two Mobsters for the price of one (if you are Mafia, that increases the probability of / being Mafia Cop).

Show me where I was quick to do either of those things.

I said Selin is probably Micheal Corleone, and so he should be lynched. COnsidering I don't have a vote today, how does that affect anything?

And I would REALLY like you to show me where I dismissed / being a Mafia Cop. I have clearly stated, along with about 10 to 12 others, that we have no reason but to trust him. If he was ever wrong, we would lynch him the next day. How is it different that I have said the same thing as the other 12 people on Wicked's bandwagon, yet you would single me out?

[icedagger]

I don't think there's much to the whole Selin thing, although I guess if the mafia have a cop it could be someone they know to be a pro-town power role. Or could always be a double bluff, but I don't think its worth reading that much into it. I really have no idea who the best lynch target is, I found AD's post-

Because he is Michael Corleone, and needs to be offed next.

as to why Wicked mentioned Selin very unconvincing as I think someone mentioned earlier. Wicked is not an idiot and neither is AD.

I don't think its enough to vote on though

A post filled with strong-willed indecisiveness punctuated by the historical "Maybe!". Thanks Icedagger, you really helped a lot.

Frankly Mandy, there's a possibility I may or may not be disgusted by this post, and I strongly urge someone else consider the option of voting mandy. Maybe he's scum, maybe not, but some kind of action must* be taken!

*Bearing in mind of course, the possibly equally beneficial effects of not voting for him.

[Skoffin]

Why do mummy and daddy keep fighting?
Personally I'm hoping for Wicket to in this round, just so I can see Narkyboy shed some tears

I fully endorse the vote Mandy idea.

As for Selin, I still don't see why Wicked would out a scum partner, unless she wanted to try a WIFOM on us. Instead of lynching him it might be better to have / (I live this guy's name) investigate him and leave it at that untill we get the result.

[Selin]

wicked was revealed by the cop / being a Carleone. / named her role and name. Being a proven cop, it was very clear that wicked will be lynched. Shortly before she was being lynched she posted that she can trust Selin. She was killed by day vig and we found out that / was correct and she was Carleone politician.

AD didn't miss this opportunity and jumped on her post indicating that I am Michael Carleone.

Now, if I'm really a Carleone, especially if I am Michael, the new Godfather, could someone explain me the logic behind the post of wicked? Does it make sense to you that wicked reveals her scum buddy?

Just bring some ideas where this makes sense!

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[mandalorian2298]

The logic behind Wicked's post if you are Micheal Corleone would be that someone would act the way that I'm acting (believing that she tried to frame you by pretending to protect you). The logic behind Wicked's post if you aren't Micheal Corleone would be that someone would act the way that Anark is acting (believing that Wicked tried to protect you or that Wicked tried to protect you by apearing to be incriminating you by protecting you).

This starts to remind me of Tycho Celchu's trial.

You know Selin, if you are Michael Corleone, you could help us a lot by claiming.

Concerning your first point, you have indeed been very helpfull to the Town AND to the non-Corleone Mafia. This only proves that you aren't with the Corleones, not that you are pro-Town. The reason why I believe that you are part of non-Corleone Mafia lies in the fact that you have been quick both to go after Selin and to dismiss the possibility of / being Mafia Cop. Thus, lynching you has, in my oppinion, the best chance of hitting the non-Corleone Mafia, since it can bag us two Mobsters for the price of one (if you are Mafia, that increases the probability of / being Mafia Cop).

Show me where I was quick to do either of those things.

I said Selin is probably Micheal Corleone, and so he should be lynched. COnsidering I don't have a vote today, how does that affect anything?

And I would REALLY like you to show me where I dismissed / being a Mafia Cop. I have clearly stated, along with about 10 to 12 others, that we have no reason but to trust him. If he was ever wrong, we would lynch him the next day. How is it different that I have said the same thing as the other 12 people on Wicked's bandwagon, yet you would single me out?

You said that Selin should be investigated and / should be Doc protected this night. This shows a) willingness to bite Wicked's bait and b) trust in /'s pro-Towniness.

Frankly Mandy, there's a possibility I may or may not be disgusted by this post, and I strongly urge someone else consider the option of voting mandy. Maybe he's scum, maybe not, but some kind of action must* be taken!

*Bearing in mind of course, the possibly equally beneficial effects of not voting for him.

May I assume that my moment of rascalness has been forgiven, then?

[Selin]

I spent 5 hours today analysing the 55 pages back under the light of the information we got from day and night scenes and came to interesting conclusions. Before elaborating further, I would like to hear from kalish about his vote on riggable.

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[Selin]

The logic behind Wicked's post if you are Micheal Corleone would be that someone would act the way that I'm acting (believing that she tried to frame you by pretending to protect you). The logic behind Wicked's post if you aren't Micheal Corleone would be that someone would act the way that Anark is acting (believing that Wicked tried to protect you or that Wicked tried to protect you by apearing to be incriminating you by protecting you).

This starts to remind me of Tycho Celchu's trial.

You know Selin, if you are Michael Corleone, you could help us a lot by claiming.

I couldn't really understand it. My logic is simple. I was not a suspect at that point of time, so why should she bring me under the spotlight unnecessarily?

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[/]

There really isn't any evidence of me being scum is there?
1. who puts two scum cops in a game?
2. why would a scum cop get rid of a recruitable scum cop? (two scum cops would almost assure a victory)
3. I haven't been wrong yet
I believe those still pressuring this matter are more likely to be scum than a random name said by scum, I'm sure it's just a wild goose chase, no one would out their partners, but if you all really want to investigate I will, though I think the real ones who are suspicious are those who refused to vote for wicked, claiming that they "needed more evidence"

[Anarkistsdream]

wicked was revealed by the cop / being a Carleone. / named her role and name. Being a proven cop, it was very clear that wicked will be lynched. Shortly before she was being lynched she posted that she can trust Selin. She was killed by day vig and we found out that / was correct and she was Carleone politician.

AD didn't miss this opportunity and jumped on her post indicating that I am Michael Carleone.

Now, if I'm really a Carleone, especially if I am Michael, the new Godfather, could someone explain me the logic behind the post of wicked? Does it make sense to you that wicked reveals her scum buddy?

Just bring some ideas where this makes sense!

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I already posted why. Because she thought she would get away without being lynched.

[kalishnikov]

lol wat a waste of a day kill..
noob alert. or scum did it to throw us off. force us to lynch someone else
hmmm

It was a fucking brilliant kill, to be honest. The 2 best 'weapons' the scum have are indecisive people and general confusion. In a chaotic game you can get away with anything.

[Anarkistsdream]

lol wat a waste of a day kill..
noob alert. or scum did it to throw us off. force us to lynch someone else
hmmm

It was a fucking brilliant kill, to be honest. The 2 best 'weapons' the scum have are indecisive people and general confusion. In a chaotic game you can get away with anything.

So you are sure both daykillers are automatically mafia?

Dangerous assumption, there, dude.

I'll remember you said that.

[kalishnikov]

lol wat a waste of a day kill..
noob alert. or scum did it to throw us off. force us to lynch someone else
hmmm

It was a fucking brilliant kill, to be honest. The 2 best 'weapons' the scum have are indecisive people and general confusion. In a chaotic game you can get away with anything.

So you are sure both daykillers are automatically mafia?

Dangerous assumption, there, dude.

I'll remember you said that.

Nope, not sure, but it seems most likely consider the action. Why would a town Dk'er make any of the day kills that were made?


On to my riggable vote, my answer to you is unvote. I've got reason to believe my information was, shall we say altered. I can verify tonight, but for the time being I'll just be a target and hold the info. Call me scummy if you like.

[Anarkistsdream]

Nope, not sure, but it seems most likely consider the action. Why would a town Dk'er make any of the day kills that were made?

Because they don't know who else is town, obviously. Hence the fuckup on day 1.

But Day 2, it would have been obvious for them to kill Wicked and not have the town waste a lynch so early, when they would obviously lose their chance to kill anyone at all that day.

[riggable]

Nope, not sure, but it seems most likely consider the action. Why would a town Dk'er make any of the day kills that were made?


On to my riggable vote, my answer to you is unvote. I've got reason to believe my information was, shall we say altered. I can verify tonight, but for the time being I'll just be a target and hold the info. Call me scummy if you like.

What do you mean exactly by "I can verify tonight"? are you cop-esque type player? This seems rather fishy to me, although I won't go so far as to say scummy.



On to the Day killer: Well done, We got a scum killed during the day with still time to get another! The problem is, our leads basically run out with Wicked, besides Kali's odd vote for me (we'll look into this some other time) there is not much to go on.
I have a feeling this could lead to an accidental townie lynch...





Ps. Did you know that with this new silly PHBB 3 forums, you can only "imbed" three quotes together in a post? There goes alllll the funn

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well as long as we have a mafia member dead, would it be acceptable to end the day so as not to lynch anyone important in the confusion?
Though I suppose a few people have been acting suspicious, might as well get some things out of the way FOS militant
I don't know but he seemed very intent on keeping Wicked alive for some reason, refusing to vote for her even though a lynch would prove many things and would probably be the only logical way to keep the game going forward, even after agreeing with me, he refused to vote, seemed kind of scummy to me for some reason, the evidence really couldn't get much better.
Although yesterday he did help lynch Fircoal, he did not have any mafia affiliation at the time so he may have assumed he was a rival family.
Sorry I'm probably jumping to conclusions, though I have a feeling for some reason.