[Official] HP Mafia - MVP: Aage - Archive

[aage]

Big ass claim, the Mtam lynch might not go through after all. Good.

Him being HP explains his ballsy attitude towards the game though, @ all the people questioning his tactics. If his play went south (like it did), he could just nameclaim and everyone would unvote. I think the character he claims fits his strategy very well.

So anyone gonna just sheep me now

Sheep your vote on ragian? That case is dead.

@Streaker, you mean 'right after being called out by you'. Degaston has been voting Pershy for ages due to his inactivity, he didn't respond. What makes you special?


I love how we've established that Tonk is town without any arguments. I'm guessing it's his inherent sympathy that I'm not seeing.

[aage]

What is your role?
It doesn't look like a standard role that I can say ie cop medic godfather. It's got a combo effect which is how I would know if storr was being truthful about his role and alignment.

Please don't answer questions about your ability, that information isn't useful to town and very useful to scum. Harry Potter is probably the main adversary of the mafia team so the less you reveal the better.

[StorrZerg]

Big ass claim, the Mtam lynch might not go through after all. Good.

Him being HP explains his ballsy attitude towards the game though, @ all the people questioning his tactics. If his play went south (like it did), he could just nameclaim and everyone would unvote. I think the character he claims fits his strategy very well.

So anyone gonna just sheep me now

Sheep your vote on ragian? That case is dead.

@Streaker, you mean 'right after being called out by you'. Degaston has been voting Pershy for ages due to his inactivity, he didn't respond. What makes you special?


I love how we've established that Tonk is town without any arguments. I'm guessing it's his inherent sympathy that I'm not seeing.

At the very least he isn't lynched today imo. Tonk, was very vocal about not pushing Sempai, defending him etc. To then only take the lead and steam role into tambo. Just feel a bit to much for mafia to try and do day 1, to draw that much attention. Feels more like a stubborn town pushing on mtamb.

I think mafia are more likely to wagon on either vote tbh, or vote neither / keep votes on random people.

Virus kinda comes to mind. I think he has been far to lo key this game in what he has been doing.
Dd
Dazza

feel like good places to push as well

Pershy, yeah ill give him another 12-24 hours to see whats up.

[Metsfanmax]

I don't believe mtam. My guess is that he knows who HP actually is and is aligned with him, but since he had to claim and is town-aligned, he claimed HP to deflect attention away from the actual HP.

vote degaston

At some point, "I've only played one game" stops being a defense and starts being a scum tell after you've posted it like 30 times in as many pages.

This is one of the big reasons I dont want to read the shit thats been going on because I might just throw my laptop at my wall if this is the shit I gotta read.

If you think I know who Harry is, you would have to assume Harry knows that I know who he is. Now if you can tell me 1 person who might know that I know what they know, Ill send you on a trip anywhere in the world.

Don't be an idiot. There are fairly well established mechanics (e.g. masons) that make it possible for HP and someone else to know who each other are starting D1. The fact that you selectively ignored this fact despite having played many mafia games makes me believe it even more.

I mean the alternative thing for me to believe is that you just suck hard at mafia and managed to get forced to claim D1 as town's star player (also after repeatedly asserting that you never would). Between liar and idiot, I'm leaning towards liar but I'm fine with idiot.

[StorrZerg]

Move on mets, nothing you are pushing at will do anything today. It's just clogging talk. You made your point, great let's lynch mafia today.

[Streaker]

Mets seriously you ain't doing nobody any good with that post.

It's been established we ain't lynching Mtamb today and the last zillion pages have been filled with the discussion of his play.
While I agree that he could have done things differently, don't take it to a personal level. I'd hate getting smashed in the face with a post like that just for what you consider is playing bad.

Now, who'd you like to see get lynched today?

Fp'd by storr.

[Ragian]

I agree with Stor that it would be weird for Got to enjoy the limelight to such an extent that he has done if he's scum. Defending sempai and going after mtam seem very ballsy moves if scum. I know that it could be reverse psychology, but I doubt it. I also read his continuation of the dispute as him being annoyed with the attitude of mtam rather than rational scum hunting. I don't think Got is scummy.

As aage, on the other hand, I kind of get mtam's tactics given his role. However, I don't agree with stating that aage necessarily must be town for his explanatory notes in the dispute and his town read of mtam before the dispute between Got and mtam. It could just as well be clever scum tactics to side with a towny under fire because you know who's not scum and you come off as town when people concede that the person you defended is town (either via claim or lynch).

With regards to inactives, I reckon several people fall in that category, but we can't tell if people are scumarining or actually busy, so going after inactives is just closing your eyes and hoping for the best.

I still think that charm is the way to go. The only thing I've seen her do is fish for information by talking about the setup (as mentioned) and being wishy-washy with her mtam vote (which someone pointed out ... I apologise for forgetting your name).

FP'ed by Streaker - I agree. Let's move on.

[Metsfanmax]

While I agree that he could have done things differently, don't take it to a personal level. I'd hate getting smashed in the face with a post like that just for what you consider is playing bad.

I'm not the one who started the shit; mtam is the one who made it personal when he implied that my posts are shit and that it is personally taxing for him to read them. He deserved a response like that after implying that my reasoning was poor.

Now, who'd you like to see get lynched today?

I already placed my vote, making it clear who I would like to see get lynched today.

[Metsfanmax]

Also I would be inclined to support a push on charm. I don't think the dazza case is going anywhere today but perhaps we can revisit tomorrow.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[StorrZerg]

vote dazza2008

[Streaker]

If Mtam is harry potter, he is possibly the worst mafia player Ive ever seen.

On a side note, Mets remark, I agree with him. I also dont think its fair that Mtam can spout off countless insults and nonsense, but mets says one thing and hye gets crap. Id post some of Mtams BS, but theres literally 100000 worthless posts to sift through.

I think Mtam is lying and is not Harry Potter.

Am still confused by a NK claim from the now claimed Harry Potter, but do you honestly believe a mafia claim of Harry Potter? Or maybe it's a mafia trying to force a counter claim and smoke the real HP out? Lol going to far here.
Giving that to mafia as fake claim seems like a bastard thing to do in a flavoured game though. No offense to the mod.
This is a big game, there are a lot of power roles out there (I assume). Perhaps someone can verify his claim tonight.

Mets is right, Mtamb did start that. I admit that not all of the posts of the last 5 pages are sticking.

BG, any other reasons you think Mtamb is lying?

[HotShot53]

Well, I finally caught up on about 10 pages of mtam and got going back and forth to find out it's all meaningless now anyway lol. Since everyone would assume HP is in the game, I assume scum wouldn't fake claim him, so I'll assume mtam is telling the truth

Got was trying to pressure who he thought was scum (and avoidance of questions as mtam was doing can sometimes be a scum tell for some people, so it wasn't that bad of a push), so I am town reading got for now, I don't think a scum would stick themselves out quite that much. I'm iffy on daeg's late joining of the case, he's still neutral to slight scum to me.

Charm's posts on the mtam case were that we should pressure him because he wasn't answering questions but "I don't think we should lynch MTam unless he comes back with doing something very scummy. But, I have a hard time believing he is town when he throws up that he some special power."

So she wanted to pressure, but not lynch, but found it hard to think he was town... kind of a very wishy-washy position to take, so it's not changing my vote on her yet.

As for pershy, he is as good an inactivish person to pressure as any I guess, we'll see how he responds to the prod he just got before I'll add to his pressure.

Worthless post, your read on why got is town is not logical. You didnt even mention anything about aage

You don't have the monopoly on logic you know... just because you don't agree with someone's reasoning doesn't make it illogical. There is no case on aage, so didn't see a reason to mention him. My opinion is similar to what Ragian just posted, that he could be town defending you against a bad argument, or scum buddying up to a soon-to-be proven town. I'll lean town on him, but not 100% proven.

[StorrZerg]

If Mtam is harry potter, he is possibly the worst mafia player Ive ever seen.

On a side note, Mets remark, I agree with him. I also dont think its fair that Mtam can spout off countless insults and nonsense, but mets says one thing and hye gets crap. Id post some of Mtams BS, but theres literally 100000 worthless posts to sift through.

I think Mtam is lying and is not Harry Potter.

Giving that to mafia as fake claim seems like a bastard thing to do in a flavoured game though. No offense to the mod.

BG, any other reasons you think Mtamb is lying?

Mod should do something to prevent the reliance of using claims to probe alignment, be that strong flavor fake names, or flavor name not being alignment driven.

talking more about why tamb could be a liar isn't helping. Unless a counter claim happens, it's not helping us lynch mafia.

[got tonkaed]

VOTE COUNT

StorrZerg - dazza
mtamburini - sempai, sempai, virus, charm, skillful, madmitch, tonkaed, Pixar, BG, degaston (L-3) dazza voted after the vote count to make it l2 before the claim
Ragian - mtamburini, dd
charm - HotShot, Endgame, Ragian
pershy - floyd
dd- Talapus

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline Friday, noon Eastern Time.

There clearly isnt much sense in sempai being voted but i think you could make an argument for anyone after my vote plus charm. I know it is apparently pixar's meta, but not wanting a lynch seems bad. BG not believing the claim without a counter also seems scummy.

[Metsfanmax]

If Mtam is harry potter, he is possibly the worst mafia player Ive ever seen.

On a side note, Mets remark, I agree with him. I also dont think its fair that Mtam can spout off countless insults and nonsense, but mets says one thing and hye gets crap. Id post some of Mtams BS, but theres literally 100000 worthless posts to sift through.

I think Mtam is lying and is not Harry Potter.

Giving that to mafia as fake claim seems like a bastard thing to do in a flavoured game though. No offense to the mod.

BG, any other reasons you think Mtamb is lying?

Mod should do something to prevent the reliance of using claims to probe alignment, be that strong flavor fake names, or flavor name not being alignment driven.

talking more about why tamb could be a liar isn't helping. Unless a counter claim happens, it's not helping us lynch mafia.

There's really nothing the mod can do about it. This is the risk you run when you choose a flavor theme that almost everyone knows.

[StorrZerg]

point is we won't know anything more till a lynch happens

[strike wolf]

Big ass claim, the Mtam lynch might not go through after all. Good.

Him being HP explains his ballsy attitude towards the game though, @ all the people questioning his tactics. If his play went south (like it did), he could just nameclaim and everyone would unvote. I think the character he claims fits his strategy very well.

So anyone gonna just sheep me now

Sheep your vote on ragian? That case is dead.

@Streaker, you mean 'right after being called out by you'. Degaston has been voting Pershy for ages due to his inactivity, he didn't respond. What makes you special?


I love how we've established that Tonk is town without any arguments. I'm guessing it's his inherent sympathy that I'm not seeing.

I don't think he's proven town. I lean that way right now and believe the argument between him and Mtam was as much differing playstyles and (especially later on) letting emotions get in the way of logic as anything scummy but no GT is not proven town.

I'll try to come back and make a fuller more accurate voting record later (GT was earlier on the vote for MTam I believe but Dega and Dazza were the last two or three I am pretty sure. The wagons looked roughly like this around the time of claims:

VOTE COUNT

mtamburini - sempai, sempai, virus, charm, skillful, madmitch, Pixar, BG gt degaston dazza
Ragian - mtamburini, dd
charm - HotShot, Endgame, Ragian
pershy - floyd
dd- Talapus

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline Friday, noon Eastern Time.

pershy has been prodded

VOTE COUNT

degaston - Strikewolf
StorrZerg - BGtheBrain, dazza
mtamburini - sempai
Ragian - mtamburini, dd
sempai - Storr, Streaker, floyd, virus, aage, madmitch, charm, Endgame, degaston, Pixar
charm - tonkaed, HotShot

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

In both cases, Madmitch joined in the middle to late end of the bandwagon and Dega joined towards the end (unvoting Sempai before the claim). Pixar as well joined fairly late in both bandwagons. Virus has been on both bandwagons but a bit earlier than the others. Dazza and BG both jumped late onto the Mtam case but neither were on the Sempai case. Instead they were both voting Storr.

[*Pixar*]

I've already said I like getting claims day1, it just gets the game moving. For me it's either get claims day1 or no lynch, I never like lynching someone the first day.

As far as mtam's role I'm not sure I believe him and his role, most scum usually claim something out of the ordinary. If it's possible can anybody state they are the real Hairy Potter? (keeping my vote on for now)

[Endgame422]

I've already said I like getting claims day1, it just gets the game moving. For me it's either get claims day1 or no lynch, I never like lynching someone the first day.

As far as mtam's role I'm not sure I believe him and his role, most scum usually claim something out of the ordinary. If it's possible can anybody state they are the real Hairy Potter? (keeping my vote on for now)

Role fishing.
This post is enough for me to get behind a pixar lynch at this point.

[*Pixar*]

Don't you think a role fisher would be for a lynch? I never said I wanted everyone to claim I said just 1 or 2 people, that's all most people want

[charm]

Interesting posts on MTam - is he or isn't he Harry Potter?? If anyone could pull off a fake claim, it would be MTAM. Regardless, I'm pulling my vote off of him and looking to someone else or a NoLynch. I think this has been the most interesting Day 1.

@Endgame - are you mafia? Why would you use a picture of Voldemort as your Avatar, unless you were mafia? Voldemort is obviously mafia.

I'm inclined to Vote for you - explain yourself!

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

mtamburini - sempai, sempai, virus, skillful, madmitch, Pixar, BG
Ragian - mtamburini, dd
charm - HotShot, Endgame, Ragian
pershy - floyd, dazza, degaston
dd- Talapus, Endgame
degaston - metsfan
dazza - Streaker, Storr

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline Friday, noon Eastern Time.

[StorrZerg]

What about skillful seems very under the radar

[Endgame422]

Don't you think a role fisher would be for a lynch? I never said I wanted everyone to claim I said just 1 or 2 people, that's all most people want

Im thinking scum knowing exactly who HP is is bad news for town.
And i picked the avatar before roles went out.
Oh and vote count shows me on dd AND charm epitaph.