Double Fanucci Mafia (4/14) Endgame

[rishaed]

4 people with out votes

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mtamb
rishaed
Mets
Strike

@dd515 you still sticking with your read on Nos?

Im between AOG and Rishead atm, risheads comment to not voting aog felt like he was telling his mafia partner he was doing a good job but leave me alone

Make a choice, and what about nos? With dd5 pushing him

Hes also someone that wont get any traction because of his claimed role Id shoot him if I had a gun

So you'd shoot our claimed doc, that hasn't been counter claimed with three deaths in one night.

So far the behavior that puzzles me the most is Mtam. He has seemed aware and cautious regarding third party since early day 1 and has gone as far as to suggest a two sk set up in contrast to Wing's stated win condition but has mostly ignored Storr's third party claim.

I believe his 3rd party claim, what it is im not sure, but he has to scumhunt today if he wants to win. If he turns out to be mafia fake claiming 3p id be disappointed that he took the bitch way out to survive

No no he doesn't have to scum hunt to win... he claimed survivor Since when do survivors care if scum/town win they win either way. And you are far too experienced not to know this.
Also hints mean nothing. I could hint at anything I want but until I claim I technically could be anything, and just say you misinterpreted my hint.
Mtamb your scum.

[rishaed]

Still want a role though rishead or my vote goes back on

I'm pretty sure he claimed commuter which is almost never an every night thing. It's a 1 shot, 2 shot, or every other night thing.

At least that's what I took from it.

Thats NOT what i claimed. I claimed immunity from night actions, no x-shot, no variance. At this point i would have specified, its not my first rodeo boy. I also know what a commuter is as i've modded it in my Once upon a killer game.

[Metsfanmax]

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I actually believe rishaed. His claimed role fits in perfectly with his playstyle so far.

[NoSurvivors]

Hm. I dont see anything about "town null" on the wiki but if everyone else sees it as a real role that is good enough for me for now... storr would be the safe lynch right now if he is claimed 3rd party, as he could just be scum lying OR he could be an SK pretending to be a survivor. I am a little weary of rishead still, but I would rather lynch the safe lynch honestly. Mafia wont night kill him. Now that being said, doesn't everyone have a "power role" in this game? I don't see town null as a real power role, compared to doc or cop or JOAT or jailkeeper etc.

[rishaed]

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I actually believe rishaed. His claimed role fits in perfectly with his playstyle so far.

Of course it does, I had some goals D1, get attention (hopefully scum), have some fun (cause i've given out roles similar to this, and they just sit there instead of being active and aggresive, and a PR is as good as any way to do that), the claims just came cause I saw people saying scummy things and started pressuring them, and since scum knew they were town they happily followed. I still don't regret being the source of why Wing/NoS claimed. Sorta sad that Wing is dead since he was town, and unhappy about the Hotshot lynch, but can't do too much about that. Get rid of a person who can stop the kill versus a person who can check a role and might have doc protection that night.
I'll try to get done what I think needs done to win, and since I'm useless now at night since scum won't target me (town shouldn't either), I'll try to do it during the day like i have been. Bump a few shoulders get a few stares, Do what needs to be done.

[StorrZerg]

Keep digging your hole. Nos. I'm getting tired of the no cc must be town doc. He isn't playing for town.

@rishaed it's in my interest to lynch mafia.
doing so allows me to not be lynched.

Part of why I didn't hammer you. Other part, I'm serious about my claim in that I want town victory, I find much more satisfaction winning thst way.

Please sheep me on aog

[strike wolf]

Actually I would say at this point, I think NoS is town. As scum he had only limited reason to back off the Rishaed wagon when there was the possibility of a non-mafia hammer. Sure he could have done it to gain town credit but he was already relatively safe with his doc claim. As for who I would pressure today, right now I am feeling:

1. Mtam-he seems scummy and I want to know what information he has that at the very least no one else has been willing to come forward with. There seems to be little rhyme or reason in his actions toward third party and I feel he has dodged the subject a bit when Ive brought it up.

2. AoG-i really need to reread him..

3. Dd-he falls back on his reads a lot but I am not really sure I agree with his reads. I feel beyond thsth has been a bit of an opportunistic voter.

[Iron Butterfly]

I'm gonna claim to save you guys some trouble... Zero of Books, I don't get affected by night actions. Town.
I have finals today and tomorrow so spend your time elsewhere. Also I'm just frustrated that people are either "pretending" to misunderstand what i'm saying, or just don't get it. I've layed it out multiple times clearly, and the people are saying which part exactly they don't get i feel like its benificial.
Vote Mtamb your cases are crap, and you are intentionally steering the discussion into circles, wasting our time.
DD is just sheeping everywhere. Mets... he's been pretty consistent on his things so far.
Also I'm laughing at the irony of this all. If this isn't Lynch or Lose then tomorrow certainly is.

You expect me to believe this shit?

VOTE RISHEAD

And why wouldn't you? It would explain why he would not be scared to protect HS. You have offered nothing logical except one sentence exclamations. Tell us why we should not believe him?

[Iron Butterfly]

Hm. I dont see anything about "town null" on the wiki but if everyone else sees it as a real role that is good enough for me for now... storr would be the safe lynch right now if he is claimed 3rd party, as he could just be scum lying OR he could be an SK pretending to be a survivor. I am a little weary of rishead still, but I would rather lynch the safe lynch honestly. Mafia wont night kill him. Now that being said, doesn't everyone have a "power role" in this game? I don't see town null as a real power role, compared to doc or cop or JOAT or jailkeeper etc.

Not being able to be targeted at night is pretty powerful. He has played his role to a T. His explanation makes perfect sense. I find him Town more then anyone so far by both his play and the explanation of his play.

[dd515087]

Still want a role though rishead or my vote goes back on

I'm pretty sure he claimed commuter which is almost never an every night thing. It's a 1 shot, 2 shot, or every other night thing.

At least that's what I took from it.

Thats NOT what i claimed. I claimed immunity from night actions, no x-shot, no variance. At this point i would have specified, its not my first rodeo boy. I also know what a commuter is as i've modded it in my Once upon a killer game.

I was the commuter in your Once Upon a Killer game... so yes I understand. I only said what I thought you were claiming. I want to believe your town, but the arguments against AoG and mtam are kind of weak right now. I'm just sticking with my gut, can't blame me for that.

Also never heard of your role (doesn't mean much, but it's a little weird)

[dd515087]

I'm gonna claim to save you guys some trouble... Zero of Books, I don't get affected by night actions. Town.
I have finals today and tomorrow so spend your time elsewhere. Also I'm just frustrated that people are either "pretending" to misunderstand what i'm saying, or just don't get it. I've layed it out multiple times clearly, and the people are saying which part exactly they don't get i feel like its benificial.
Vote Mtamb your cases are crap, and you are intentionally steering the discussion into circles, wasting our time.
DD is just sheeping everywhere. Mets... he's been pretty consistent on his things so far.
Also I'm laughing at the irony of this all. If this isn't Lynch or Lose then tomorrow certainly is.

You expect me to believe this shit?

VOTE RISHEAD

And why wouldn't you? It would explain why he would not be scared to protect HS. You have offered nothing logical except one sentence exclamations. Tell us why we should not believe him?

This is very true. Why have we been letting mtam get away with this bullshit posting? Moving him up a notch in my scum rankings

[NoSurvivors]

Still want a role though rishead or my vote goes back on

I'm pretty sure he claimed commuter which is almost never an every night thing. It's a 1 shot, 2 shot, or every other night thing.

At least that's what I took from it.

Thats NOT what i claimed. I claimed immunity from night actions, no x-shot, no variance. At this point i would have specified, its not my first rodeo boy. I also know what a commuter is as i've modded it in my Once upon a killer game.

I was the commuter in your Once Upon a Killer game... so yes I understand. I only said what I thought you were claiming. I want to believe your town, but the arguments against AoG and mtam are kind of weak right now. I'm just sticking with my gut, can't blame me for that.

Also never heard of your role (doesn't mean much, but it's a little weird)

Or are you sticking with the majority's "gut"?

As for mtamb, I believe he needs to be pressured. Honestly at this point I think a massclaim might as well be in order, but my logic has been flawed in this big a game before. He has contributed but I don't like his "style" or whatever storr calls it.

Keep digging your hole. Nos. I'm getting tired of the no cc must be town doc. He isn't playing for town.

@rishaed it's in my interest to lynch mafia.
doing so allows me to not be lynched.

Part of why I didn't hammer you. Other part, I'm serious about my claim in that I want town victory, I find much more satisfaction winning thst way.

Please sheep me on aog

OMG NOS MADE A VALID POINT! LETS KILL THE DOC!

[Army of GOD]

rish, if a vig tries to kill you are you immune to that too?

[mtamburini]

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I actually believe rishaed. His claimed role fits in perfectly with his playstyle so far.

His role is a mafia sided role

HE CAN ONLY BE LYNCHED < WHAT KIND OF ROLE LIKE THAT HELPS TOWN

[rishaed]

rish, if a vig tries to kill you are you immune to that too?

What part of immune to night actions is hard to understand...If its a night action i'm immune.

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I actually believe rishaed. His claimed role fits in perfectly with his playstyle so far.

His role is a mafia sided role

HE CAN ONLY BE LYNCHED < WHAT KIND OF ROLE LIKE THAT HELPS TOWN

Lol Wut? i think your desperate right now mtamb. This role should help town by soaking up attempted mafia kills, and the fact that you want me gone so bad only makes you look worse.

[Army of GOD]

If the mafia know you're unaffected by kills though you're not gonna be targeted


Its a low risk lynch. We lose nothing by killing you since you're not gonna be targeted by night actions...

[Army of GOD]

The only downside is that you're actually the joker, which would explain your D1 behavior.

[Iron Butterfly]

If the mafia know you're unaffected by kills though you're not gonna be targeted


Its a low risk lynch. We lose nothing by killing you since you're not gonna be targeted by night actions...

Yeh which is why mafia would want him lynched.

LOLOL... Low risk lynch....we lynch Town we probably lose the game.

[Army of GOD]

If the mafia know you're unaffected by kills though you're not gonna be targeted


Its a low risk lynch. We lose nothing by killing you since you're not gonna be targeted by night actions...

Yeh which is why mafia would want him lynched.

LOLOL... Low risk lynch....we lynch Town we probably lose the game.

OK, this is how I see it:

1. rish is town and we lynch - we don't lose any useful night actions. All that happens is we lose a town vote during the day

2. rish is scum and we lynch - we kill scum

[Army of GOD]

Whoops didn't mean to hit submit

3. rish is town and we don't lynch - we get one more town vote but since he's already outed as the null no one wastes a night action on him

4. rish is scum and we don't lynch - we are afraid to lynch a scum because he can't be NKed

Its low risk IMO...

[strike wolf]

Yes but we are also in a possible MYLO situation AOG. Say there is a killing group of three. We lynch Rishaed we are down to 9 people 3 mafia 1 third party (maybe also a serial killer) and some 4-5 town. There are again two kills in the night. 7 people 3 mafia 1 third party. For all intents and purposes now the mafia controls the lynch because as much as Storr might talk about town siding he is still a survivor and he's not going to pass up the opportunity of a quick win to risk being killed by mafia out of spite that he sided with town. Now I am not convinced this is the situation that we are in and even if it is there's always the chance that Storr is a serial killer of some time and lying to keep mafia from killing him. It is still a situation where we can't ignore that possibility and yes it does affect my judgment that one of the few people alive in this game that I trust (IB) agrees that the Rishaed wagon was sketchy while there were many suspected scum on the Rishaed wagon.

[mtamburini]

Actually I would say at this point, I think NoS is town. As scum he had only limited reason to back off the Rishaed wagon when there was the possibility of a non-mafia hammer. Sure he could have done it to gain town credit but he was already relatively safe with his doc claim. As for who I would pressure today, right now I am feeling:

1. Mtam-he seems scummy and I want to know what information he has that at the very least no one else has been willing to come forward with. There seems to be little rhyme or reason in his actions toward third party and I feel he has dodged the subject a bit when Ive brought it up.

2. AoG-i really need to reread him..

3. Dd-he falls back on his reads a lot but I am not really sure I agree with his reads. I feel beyond thsth has been a bit of an opportunistic voter.

What did you want to know

[NoSurvivors]

Actually I would say at this point, I think NoS is town. As scum he had only limited reason to back off the Rishaed wagon when there was the possibility of a non-mafia hammer. Sure he could have done it to gain town credit but he was already relatively safe with his doc claim. As for who I would pressure today, right now I am feeling:

1. Mtam-he seems scummy and I want to know what information he has that at the very least no one else has been willing to come forward with. There seems to be little rhyme or reason in his actions toward third party and I feel he has dodged the subject a bit when Ive brought it up.

2. AoG-i really need to reread him..

3. Dd-he falls back on his reads a lot but I am not really sure I agree with his reads. I feel beyond thsth has been a bit of an opportunistic voter.

What did you want to know

Pretty self-evident

[mtamburini]

Its not because I want to understand what information he thinks I have

[rishaed]

If the mafia know you're unaffected by kills though you're not gonna be targeted


Its a low risk lynch. We lose nothing by killing you since you're not gonna be targeted by night actions...

Which is exactly why I wanted to maximize the chances of me being targeted N1 before I would have to claim. Like I said earlier. Also Losing nothing by killing me K You lose someone who the mafia can't kill in the night, meaning that the kill targets have to be other people narrowing down the potential targets. They could kill stor (I don't think they will unless they think he's lying about being a survivor and instead is the SK), but it cause the mafia (and SK if there is one) some inconvenience because they have to lynch me to get rid of me.