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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:23 pm

Your post strikes me as interesting.

You are basically using a huge WIFOM argument to say that those who voted jonty may hold one maybe two scum because we steered the vote while others where undecided. Are you suggesting the other players could not make a decision for themselves?

I could also suggest you are trying to deflect attention from yourself back to myself but that would also be WIFOM right?

Your role would be a God send for mafia to sew chaos and confusion. As Town you would do more harm then good if you choose the wrong target.

I think that knowing who your night two target is extremely important.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jonty125 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:07 pm

ShaggyDan wrote:Sorry about lack of activity guys, long story I won't bore you with. Suffice to say I'm not well atm.

As far as my night action I am The Delorean - Town Delayer. I targetted yomiel night one because I didn't want to delay any town power roles and figured that Yom was someone who was anti town.

In response to the criticisms of my pushing on Neb, I was just trying to get a lynch on the day rather than a no lynch... Which unfortunatly is what happened. It wasnt a good case but it was better than not voting imo.


Hmmm. I suppose it could be a fakeclaim. N1, I targetted the guy who had a day power, and N2, well ... wait & see, while I bungle up a fake action. (Disclaimer: All weak WIFOM)
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:44 pm

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ShaggyDan wrote:Sorry about lack of activity guys, long story I won't bore you with. Suffice to say I'm not well atm.

As far as my night action I am The Delorean - Town Delayer. I targetted yomiel night one because I didn't want to delay any town power roles and figured that Yom was someone who was anti town.

In response to the criticisms of my pushing on Neb, I was just trying to get a lynch on the day rather than a no lynch... Which unfortunatly is what happened. It wasnt a good case but it was better than not voting imo.


Hmmm. I suppose it could be a fakeclaim. N1, I targetted the guy who had a day power, and N2, well ... wait & see, while I bungle up a fake action. (Disclaimer: All weak WIFOM)


I believe the ability, it is the alignment that is random.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby / on Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:48 pm

The Delorean is a character?
Dangit! I call Death Star next game. I'm not sure though, being an open minded psychic, I believe in all sorts of awesome things, but how does a time traveling car delay an action? I thought you were supposed to change things, not like make the same thing happen, but a day later.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:37 pm

Well that's interesting. I'm not sure if this is particularly useful, although given the lack of NK's, I think a Night 2 target would definitely be useful should we have delayed kills come Night 3.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby spiesr on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:49 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Well that's interesting. I'm not sure if this is particularly useful, although given the lack of NK's, I think a Night 2 target would definitely be useful should we have delayed kills come Night 3.
And, since we don't want to run the risk of Shaggy being one of those potential multiple kills, and thus losing that info. We are going to need to hear his target today.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:40 pm

spiesr wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Well that's interesting. I'm not sure if this is particularly useful, although given the lack of NK's, I think a Night 2 target would definitely be useful should we have delayed kills come Night 3.
And, since we don't want to run the risk of Shaggy being one of those potential multiple kills, and thus losing that info. We are going to need to hear his target today.


Or we should hang him. Meh, if he is scum that role can really f*ck with the town.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby ShaggyDan on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:31 am

I targetted Neb last night. I figured I should use the power rather than not and I had little to go off as far as who to target. I kept it to myself at the start of the day because I thought the scene suggested a bukletproof resist ratger than my action being responsible.

I'm haply for town to direct my night action from now... In a game where roles are seperate to allignment it's not a terribly useful power.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby jonty125 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:48 pm

It was useful N1, but the backlog of kills will now catch up. Then again, you could be used as a roleblocker ...
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:16 pm

jonty125 wrote:It was useful N1, but the backlog of kills will now catch up. Then again, you could be used as a roleblocker ...


How could you possibly know this? There are no dead scum, no way to know if his action affected the kill, and no reason to really even assume that his action has any positive effect at all.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:19 pm

edocsil wrote:
jonty125 wrote:It was useful N1, but the backlog of kills will now catch up. Then again, you could be used as a roleblocker ...


How could you possibly know this? There are no dead scum, no way to know if his action affected the kill, and no reason to really even assume that his action has any positive effect at all.


This. Yomiel only had a DK upon his death, and we don't know Neb's action. We have no reason to assume that Neb has a NK or even a night action.

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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:24 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
edocsil wrote:
jonty125 wrote:It was useful N1, but the backlog of kills will now catch up. Then again, you could be used as a roleblocker ...


How could you possibly know this? There are no dead scum, no way to know if his action affected the kill, and no reason to really even assume that his action has any positive effect at all.


This. Yomiel only had a DK upon his death, and we don't know Neb's action. We have no reason to assume that Neb has a NK or even a night action.

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I am curious as to why you would NOT assume he has some sort of Night action. If we are playing the guilty until proven innocent game what would make you think he does not have a night action?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:49 pm

It's the odds. There are 13 living players. One of them is the killer (or killers, but only one submits) Bad form to assume that the one guy who got delayed is the one who was the killer. Neb does more likely than not have a night action, but it's still bad to simply assume it.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:38 pm

edocsil wrote:It's the odds. There are 13 living players. One of them is the killer (or killers, but only one submits) Bad form to assume that the one guy who got delayed is the one who was the killer. Neb does more likely than not have a night action, but it's still bad to simply assume it.

Also, we have to consider the number of players left. 13 is quite a few considering we're on Day 3, so I don't think we need to push a case on neb because we're nowhere close to LYLO. It could be that he's not mafia and I think we can afford to wait a day and see what happens. Also would help confirm the claimed role.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby spiesr on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:59 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:I am curious as to why you would NOT assume he has some sort of Night action. If we are playing the guilty until proven innocent game what would make you think he does not have a night action?
Hmm, what sort of action could Silent Bob have? I have no idea.
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edocsil wrote:It's the odds. There are 13 living players. One of them is the killer (or killers, but only one submits) Bad form to assume that the one guy who got delayed is the one who was the killer. Neb does more likely than not have a night action, but it's still bad to simply assume it.

Also, we have to consider the number of players left. 13 is quite a few considering we're on Day 3, so I don't think we need to push a case on neb because we're nowhere close to LYLO. It could be that he's not mafia and I think we can afford to wait a day and see what happens. Also would help confirm the claimed role.
With less than two days before the deadline, we kind of need to decide who we might want to lynch today. If you wish to stay alive you might want to help us out there. If we don't find anything in time, I know I at least would be in favor of testing someone's third party claim.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:05 pm

spiesr wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:I am curious as to why you would NOT assume he has some sort of Night action. If we are playing the guilty until proven innocent game what would make you think he does not have a night action?
Hmm, what sort of action could Silent Bob have? I have no idea.
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edocsil wrote:It's the odds. There are 13 living players. One of them is the killer (or killers, but only one submits) Bad form to assume that the one guy who got delayed is the one who was the killer. Neb does more likely than not have a night action, but it's still bad to simply assume it.

Also, we have to consider the number of players left. 13 is quite a few considering we're on Day 3, so I don't think we need to push a case on neb because we're nowhere close to LYLO. It could be that he's not mafia and I think we can afford to wait a day and see what happens. Also would help confirm the claimed role.
With less than two days before the deadline, we kind of need to decide who we might want to lynch today. If you wish to stay alive you might want to help us out there. If we don't find anything in time, I know I at least would be in favor of testing someone's third party claim.


I still think we should hang shaggy. His role is pretty much useless as town, but he can really f*ck up town hard by throwing the protections out of whack.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:12 pm

Checking in, caught up. I don't see a great deal to gain by keeping shaggydan alive. I would appreciate if he told us who he targetted night 2 and WHY.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby spiesr on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:50 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Checking in, caught up. I don't see a great deal to gain by keeping shaggydan alive. I would appreciate if he told us who he targetted night 2 and WHY.
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ShaggyDan wrote:I targetted Neb last night. I figured I should use the power rather than not and I had little to go off as far as who to target. I kept it to myself at the start of the day because I thought the scene suggested a bukletproof resist ratger than my action being responsible.

I'm haply for town to direct my night action from now... In a game where roles are seperate to allignment it's not a terribly useful power.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [14/15] N1: Two Suns Set

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:56 pm

pancakemix wrote:A dark silhouette crept its way towards a home, with intent to kill the inhabitant. A large man loomed nearby, but the interloper was willing to risk passing him. Suddenly, the dimensions twisted, and the intruder, sneaking past the armed guard, only tied up his victim instead.

"I guess he must have been at the end of his rope, huh?"

"I'm sure it took a good amount of rope to tie up his victim, so I'd assume so. Perhaps he should have gagged him though?"

"I'd very much like to gag you right now..."

"Believe me, Mr. Crow, I share your sentiment."

"Well, since that's settled, I'll find you a gag."


There were no deaths. It is Day 2. With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. You have until 12:01 AM ET (GMT-04:00) on July 9th to reach a decision.


*SMACKS FORHEAD*

Neb is Silent Bob...Silent Bob is the large man..he was involved in the attempted night kill somehow.

You guys ever see the size of Silent Bob/Kevin Smith?
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/kevin-smith-fa ... Ado1GGe5nM
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Re: CYOC Mafia [14/15] N1: Two Suns Set

Postby edocsil on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:02 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
pancakemix wrote:A dark silhouette crept its way towards a home, with intent to kill the inhabitant. A large man loomed nearby, but the interloper was willing to risk passing him. Suddenly, the dimensions twisted, and the intruder, sneaking past the armed guard, only tied up his victim instead.

"I guess he must have been at the end of his rope, huh?"

"I'm sure it took a good amount of rope to tie up his victim, so I'd assume so. Perhaps he should have gagged him though?"

"I'd very much like to gag you right now..."

"Believe me, Mr. Crow, I share your sentiment."

"Well, since that's settled, I'll find you a gag."


There were no deaths. It is Day 2. With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. You have until 12:01 AM ET (GMT-04:00) on July 9th to reach a decision.


*SMACKS FORHEAD*

Neb is Silent Bob...Silent Bob is the large man..he was involved in the attempted night kill somehow.

You guys ever see the size of Silent Bob/Kevin Smith?
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/kevin-smith-fa ... Ado1GGe5nM


You are wrong. Unvote Vote IB for trying to hang and obvious defensive role.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:12 pm

Please explain how I am wrong about Silent Bob being the large man in the scene?

I am just trying to think out loud here so why so quick to put a lynch vote on me?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:15 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:Please explain how I am wrong about Silent Bob being the large man in the scene?

I am just trying to think out loud here so why so quick to put a lynch vote on me?


No where did I suggest I wanted to lynch Neb. If silent bob is part of that scene, which I strongly think he was then he may have information.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [14/15] N1: Two Suns Set

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:39 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
pancakemix wrote:A dark silhouette crept its way towards a home, with intent to kill the inhabitant. A large man loomed nearby, but the interloper was willing to risk passing him. Suddenly, the dimensions twisted, and the intruder, sneaking past the armed guard, only tied up his victim instead.

"I guess he must have been at the end of his rope, huh?"

"I'm sure it took a good amount of rope to tie up his victim, so I'd assume so. Perhaps he should have gagged him though?"

"I'd very much like to gag you right now..."

"Believe me, Mr. Crow, I share your sentiment."

"Well, since that's settled, I'll find you a gag."


There were no deaths. It is Day 2. With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. You have until 12:01 AM ET (GMT-04:00) on July 9th to reach a decision.


*SMACKS FORHEAD*

Neb is Silent Bob...Silent Bob is the large man..he was involved in the attempted night kill somehow.

You guys ever see the size of Silent Bob/Kevin Smith?
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/kevin-smith-fa ... Ado1GGe5nM

The large man in the scene seems to me to be some sort of protective role, not the shadow. Doesn't implicate him as mafia.

However, the "dimensions warping" part seems to imply that Shaggy was involved in the scene. If what he's saying is true, then the killer should have killed on Night 2. But that delayed kill didn't happen. I think shaggy is not telling us about something, and therefore he's probably not town.

unvote vote shaggy
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby spiesr on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:46 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:Please explain how I am wrong about Silent Bob being the large man in the scene?
I personally still think the large man is me. (And that the "large man" and "armed guard" are the same person.)
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Re: CYOC Mafia [13/15] D3: Take Me Out To The Mafia Game

Postby edocsil on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:53 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:Please explain how I am wrong about Silent Bob being the large man in the scene?

I am just trying to think out loud here so why so quick to put a lynch vote on me?


No where did I suggest I wanted to lynch Neb. If silent bob is part of that scene, which I strongly think he was then he may have information.

Perhaps I misunderstood your intent. I thought you were calling out Neb as the killer, which was making little sense to me, especially due to the fact that I assume the man to be spiesr.
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