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[Wild_Tiger]

or they picked the same target but I really doubt that..

[Russianfire8371]

yes I think you are right.
Wild_Tiger hasnt done anything but spam the thread.

so it doesnt really matter if he is mafia or not, we need a lynch!

vote Wild_Tiger

this is hte second time this game where someone has voted for themself. WTF????

[gimpyThewonder]

well that worked out. My internet ate itself on monday anyway so i won't have a real connection (good ole public library) until Friday at the earliest.

[got tonkaed]

Amazingly I am lynch happy because I voted on 2 idiot noobs that acted scummy. Hooray they are dead. Those "little" things you called proof also managed to cause a majority of people to vote them. Better question that you always seem to ask in a rt game is why are you not scum G_T? I know the reason I'm not is because I was given a protown role. Unfortunately it wasn't as an investigative cop so stupid townies that act scummy will get my vote. I also pointed out my 2nd reason on why I personally voted firth which is still valid. Evidently you may have skimmed over the part that saw the bloodpath take place at your hut on Night 1 as well as other places while if you noticed last night only one person died. Firth was here for night one, but wasn't here for night 2. Coincidence maybe, definitively no. For me though that is enough reason to draw my vote right now. And I still maintain he was an idiot for putting a statement stating "edited one time" in his sig while playing in a mafia game. I don't see you coming up with better evidence on someone and yes Skittles did find someone that was really flying under the radar. I would not be opposed to vote him(W_T) either. Right now though I want to know why we only had one death last night instead of a bunch when the only common link I know of is Firth not being here on night 2.

Im beginning to question whether or not you forgot how to play this game over the summer.

Your first claim is actually much worse than you seem to think it is. Yes your tactics got 2 people lynched, but they werent good lynches for the town...and they were rather underdeveloped. Frankly im not sure you really know what to look for in someone who is scum. These hyper easy to spot things like editing a post or saying something stupid by a noob player simply is not = to someone editing something or making a logical error under pressure when they are forced to make a defense. The problem is...your doing this in multiple games right now which means either you have developed this strategy and its not a great one for town, or your anti town in both games (which is a bit too much to determine at all once). Frankly at this point in the game there are a number of players who are not contributing...but at the same time you are coming up with some foolish reasons to go after people when there are players who are contributing who look somewhat less than clean at the moment. But your so busy going on wild goose chases that you miss them entirely.

Things which are actually worth discussing....

1) are some of the non actives power roles? seemingly after the first night everyone and their brother who could end up in my house did. However on night 2 things were relatively quiet...and i think part of the reason is many of the players are somewhat in active and may not have been involved. Of course this is difficult to determine as of yet, but it is one possible explanation.

2) Skittles and i have both proposed lines in the last few pages of more active players who could be involved in anti town dealings and yet the only players who seem to be interested in following them up are....well no one. Which is rather telling because unless the line is developed, the town is in trouble if someone makes a revenge kill and subsequently leaves the line undiscovered.

3) the fact that you consistently do things which are anti town and until my posts are going relatively unchided for it.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Day 1 Eddie dies. Eddie acts like a complete idiot and is killed off for it. Typical mafia game townies lynch a fellow townie and learn from it. Night 1 bloodbath and party at tonka's place. Many deaths take place that are unexplainable. Day 2 day starts out slow and based off of eddie's scumminess in his behaviour nothing was really learned to me. I put some pressure on a noob to see what kind of reaction they give. The reaction they give is scummy in nature. Others agree they were lynched. Again if they had not acted so scummy then nothing would've happened to them. Night 2 one dies. Day 3 comes I give 1 goofy reason and 1 valid reason as to my vote on firth. I never claimed it was a great reason and I had my own personal belief on why I did it. Fact of the matter was that he was here on night one, but not on night 2. Conclusion he may be an anti town being as I have yet to see any evidence to the contrary. At the same time, I also agreed that W_T was submarining and that I wouldn't mind switching my vote to him should it be prudent to do so. In regards to your other points

1) It is possible and I wouldn't rule that out.
2) It maybe possible, but I think we would've had more kills night 2 if that actually was possible. I know personally I need town to win for me to win the game.

3) already addressed. Only games I stay in the background are when I'm a protector role or a survivor type role where it isn't prudent to be outspoken chasing scum. When I have an investigative role, then my choices are a bit more clear after each night happens.

[Wild_Tiger]

I am wondering one thing, as suggested earlier some or a lot of people will show another role when they are killed than what they are how do we know if we killed a right one =o

how can we get any grip on the game that way, lol.
well if its true, I think fircoals goal was complete chaos =)

[Russianfire8371]

LSU and GT have got to stop arguing like this.

This isnt going to get us anywhere

LSU- Your reasons arent good reasons for a lynch. I understand your past accusations, seeing how i voted for the same person yesterday. Try to look into whats actually going on rather than what Fircoal is feeding you.

GT- Just let it go. There's no point fighting a battle thats not going to get us anywhere. What difference will you make in this game if you convince LSU? If the reason is retarted, nobody is going to vote with him. If things get serious with vote counts, i understand but come on.

As for Wild Tiger, WTF is up with you voting yourself?

[Fircoal]

Vote Count

Firth (1) LSU,
WT (1) skittles, WT,

17 Alive, 9 to Lynch, 8 to get a new car, 7 to get a sick puppy

[life-saver]

Sick puppy? That's a new one.

[Fircoal]

Sick puppy? That's a new one.

Yes it is. I found it on my doorstep, and it was too cute to kill. So I'm giving it out to who ever gets 7 votes.

[life-saver]

Sick puppy? That's a new one.

Yes it is. I found it on my doorstep, and it was too cute to kill. So I'm giving it out to who ever gets 7 votes.

OH MY GODZ! I WANT THE PUPPY!

*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*

[Fircoal]

Sick puppy? That's a new one.

Yes it is. I found it on my doorstep, and it was too cute to kill. So I'm giving it out to who ever gets 7 votes.

OH MY GODZ! I WANT THE PUPPY!

*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*

then you have to earn it.

[Russianfire8371]

Sick puppy? That's a new one.

Yes it is. I found it on my doorstep, and it was too cute to kill. So I'm giving it out to who ever gets 7 votes.

OH MY GODZ! I WANT THE PUPPY!

*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*

vote life-saver so she can have a puppy

[Russianfire8371]

haha j/k. I would never trust LS with a puppy

unvote

[life-saver]

haha j/k. I would never trust LS with a puppy

unvote

YOU DON'T TRUST ME WITH A PUPPY!?

YOU WILL PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One, because my parents won't let me get another puppy~

Two, because maybe you should have the puppy! =3

[ga7]

Guh... I agree with Russianfire there, this argument seems pretty pointless. I guess I'll have to reread but right now my suspicion is on WT. Acting weird and distant, a bit scummy combo.

[ga7]

Oh, and for now I'm willing to help LS get the sick puppy. She deserves the punishment after hammering a cop
Vote Life saver

[got tonkaed]

again im a bit disappointed in the players here. Frankly the entire intent of my "argument" with LSU was to suggest that the tactics he was implementing were potentially anti town. However instead of furthering discussion you guys have actually tried to go against it and brings us back to....well nothing exactly.

LSU isnt scum ( i dont think) hes just misguided, and i was simply chastizing him so that he could improve his play for town. The fact that that is being disregarded troubles me.

Ill keep working to figure out who is against the town, but i wont be able to do this by myself. So ill leave it to everyone to decide if they want to look for somewhat sketchy "scum tells" from relatively inexperienced players or if they want to try and take a bigger look at the game as a whole and try to find some scum.

I leave that choice to each one of you.

[life-saver]

Oh, and for now I'm willing to help LS get the sick puppy. She deserves the punishment after hammering a cop
Vote Life saver

...

That makes me even sadder...

But, at least I could get a puppy! =3

[Russianfire8371]

haha j/k. I would never trust LS with a puppy

unvote

YOU DON'T TRUST ME WITH A PUPPY!?

YOU WILL PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One, because my parents won't let me get another puppy~

Two, because maybe you should have the puppy! =3

haha no thx, ive already got 2 pets (a cat and a dog), and i dont think my family can handle another one

[Russianfire8371]

Here's a list of people still alive


0ojakeo0
got tonkaed
LSU Tiger Josh
Russianfire8371
live-saver
sheepofdumb
Charles77
firth4eva
Wild_Tiger
ga7
Minister Masket
Skittles!
seirra_Leon
the1exile
I GOT SERVED

looking at this, I htink the least active person here has been Charles 77. Dont take my word for it yet, as im just guessing without having looked through past posts.

[life-saver]

I'm staring right at Sheep and Charley for unactiveness. Unless I'm wrong...

[Russianfire8371]

I'm staring right at Sheep and Charley for unactiveness. Unless I'm wrong...

Ok Charlie's last post was him posting that our reasons were good enough for him to vote for McSnipe. I've looked farther back (back to page 33) and havent found another post yet.

Sheep and IGS havent been active at all today

[got tonkaed]

Here's a list of people still alive


0ojakeo0
got tonkaed
LSU Tiger Josh
Russianfire8371
live-saver
sheepofdumb
Charles77
firth4eva
Wild_Tiger
ga7
Minister Masket
Skittles!
seirra_Leon
the1exile
I GOT SERVED

looking at this, I htink the least active person here has been Charles 77. Dont take my word for it yet, as im just guessing without having looked through past posts.

Here are my very quick thoughts on each of the alive players



0ojakeo0 - from time to time is active...but posts very little if anything of value not incredibly helpful to our cause

got tonkaed - i attempt to stay active in getting more information out, yet if theres a criticism of me i guess i have been noncommittal thus far

LSU Tiger Josh - very active, however i think is overextending his actual ability at the moment and is leading to bad town results

Russianfire8371 - has been active and has posted some insight, i disagree with him very recently but by in large has acted fairly helpfully, without being a hinderance to town

live-saver - has also been active, slightly less helpful but has still added opinions at times, possibly a little to willing to bandwagon thus far.

sheepofdumb - has not been very active, and has not posted much of value when he has been, has been known to become active if in dangerous of lynching, a potential candidate for submarine lynch

Charles77 - has done nothing at all, and if we are looking for a submarine lynch this seemingly is our best target, of no help to the town

firth4eva - only recently has posted due to internet issue, has yet to make any real mark on the game

Wild_Tiger - has posted a little here and there but has not really been valuable and should consider doing more or suspicion should soon arise

ga7 - pops in from time to time and ranges from helpful to barely
noticable, could be more consistant but because of worse players out there is given a reprieve for now

Minister Masket - was much more involved yesterday and proposed a few lines of thought, although i did not agree with him, still was helpful in generating discussion. Would be an asset to the town to keep talking as i feel information from him could be useful

Skittles! - was one of the better town players thus far. Was willing to engage in discussion and look back in the thread to get information and lines of thought rolling. IF town is going to win this game, skittles will play a big part

seirra_Leon - hasnt said a whole lot, but was helpful when did take the time to speak. Could help the town more with further interaction

the1exile - does a pretty good job of checking in, but i feel should defintely be doing more to help the town. Too good of a player to be as relatively uninvolved as he is

I GOT SERVED - has not spoken much and has been relatively unhelpful to town. Should be considered a potential candidate for submarine lynch

The way i see it, there are probably 6 or 7 ish active players and 3 or 4 which can be pretty helpful toward a town victory, assuming none of them are scum (which is no lock). These numbers simply have to improve or the end result will be fairly easy to discern.

There is no bigger criminal right now than those who could be talking and are saying very little.

[Russianfire8371]

Here's a list of people still alive


0ojakeo0
got tonkaed
LSU Tiger Josh
Russianfire8371
live-saver
sheepofdumb
Charles77
firth4eva
Wild_Tiger
ga7
Minister Masket
Skittles!
seirra_Leon
the1exile
I GOT SERVED

looking at this, I htink the least active person here has been Charles 77. Dont take my word for it yet, as im just guessing without having looked through past posts.

Here are my very quick thoughts on each of the alive players



0ojakeo0 - from time to time is active...but posts very little if anything of value not incredibly helpful to our cause

got tonkaed - i attempt to stay active in getting more information out, yet if theres a criticism of me i guess i have been noncommittal thus far

LSU Tiger Josh - very active, however i think is overextending his actual ability at the moment and is leading to bad town results

Russianfire8371 - has been active and has posted some insight, i disagree with him very recently but by in large has acted fairly helpfully, without being a hinderance to town

live-saver - has also been active, slightly less helpful but has still added opinions at times, possibly a little to willing to bandwagon thus far.

sheepofdumb - has not been very active, and has not posted much of value when he has been, has been known to become active if in dangerous of lynching, a potential candidate for submarine lynch

Charles77 - has done nothing at all, and if we are looking for a submarine lynch this seemingly is our best target, of no help to the town

firth4eva - only recently has posted due to internet issue, has yet to make any real mark on the game

Wild_Tiger - has posted a little here and there but has not really been valuable and should consider doing more or suspicion should soon arise

ga7 - pops in from time to time and ranges from helpful to barely
noticable, could be more consistant but because of worse players out there is given a reprieve for now

Minister Masket - was much more involved yesterday and proposed a few lines of thought, although i did not agree with him, still was helpful in generating discussion. Would be an asset to the town to keep talking as i feel information from him could be useful

Skittles! - was one of the better town players thus far. Was willing to engage in discussion and look back in the thread to get information and lines of thought rolling. IF town is going to win this game, skittles will play a big part

seirra_Leon - hasnt said a whole lot, but was helpful when did take the time to speak. Could help the town more with further interaction

the1exile - does a pretty good job of checking in, but i feel should defintely be doing more to help the town. Too good of a player to be as relatively uninvolved as he is

I GOT SERVED - has not spoken much and has been relatively unhelpful to town. Should be considered a potential candidate for submarine lynch

The way i see it, there are probably 6 or 7 ish active players and 3 or 4 which can be pretty helpful toward a town victory, assuming none of them are scum (which is no lock). These numbers simply have to improve or the end result will be fairly easy to discern.

There is no bigger criminal right now than those who could be talking and are saying very little.

question is now do we try to go for a submarine lynch or not.

FOS on IGS. Charles has only 35 posts which means there's a likely chance that he's just a noob that doesnt check the forum often. As for IGS, he's a regular poster, which makes me suspicous of him.