WoT:Mem of Light An Ending

[DoomYoshi]

a faked post doesn't interest me.

[TimWoodbury]

id be fine with mod kill the inactives or we can jsut kill the inactives if rish wont kill them herself

[gregwolf121]

wing the reason i don't throw out random accusations is because that usually ends up with me being called mafia and getting lynched.

also i would remind you that this is a game and there is no reason for personal attacks,

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

wing the reason i don't throw out random accusations is because that usually ends up with me being called mafia and getting lynched.

also i would remind you that this is a game and there is no reason for personal attacks,

Please highlight the personal attacks?

[StorrZerg]

wing the reason i don't throw out random accusations is because that usually ends up with me being called mafia and getting lynched.

also i would remind you that this is a game and there is no reason for personal attacks,

any chance you could contribute to the game. giving a psa is great and all, but it doesn't mean anything. anyone can do it. sure its good to do. but you haven't done really anything today, or all game.

[Ragian]

Who here thinks that we should kill off inactives because it's very likely that they're at fault for the lack of kill N2?

[StorrZerg]

It's possible. Would not be surprised

[sam_levi_11]

I am starting to seriously suspect wing and storr as scum and working together... doom's case on wing looks good, I could support that.

As for newguy, I believe him, he was hinting at being a watcher/tracker long ago, his claim about being half of the wild hunt seems to fit with the scene.

For sam, he's not playing too good, don't know if it's because he's scum or if it's just because he isn't paying attention enough. But he should be watched...

For Tim, I still don't know why he went so wacky yesterday... he also hasn't been much help in the game, I would also consider voting him.

But overall, the way wing has jumped on the wrong cases and doom's case on him make him my most likely scum candidate so far today, so I will vote wing

My apologies, as mentioned earlier, this last week has been a bit mental and hectic but I should have no interruptions in the future.

Reading through the posts, one thing that has always struck me is Wing's overly aggressive style. He seemingly hops from one person to another aggressively baiting them, which makes me want to vote him on it's own. He mentioned it himself:

Because I am not a hypocritical sh1t who is claiming that the damn case they voted for against Mandy was a load of tosh and the leader should be lynched.

Because I am not the useless sh1t in this game who has offered little. The reason on D4 I still have to play the jerk is because of the lack of positive play from pretty much the entire game.

Because I am not the hypocritical sh1t who has taken my modus operandum and attempted to use it against me. I know all about repeating empty accusations until they stick.

Now how about you? Have you got something useful to say?

If you ignore the ridiculously petulant nature of the post, humour me as a newer player and tell me how that is in any way helpful?

I would also be okay with lynching Greg, as if you read through his post history, he has never voted for anyone in this game. I think he's ghosting through trying to stay off bandwagons and remain unnoticed.

[gregwolf121]

wing calling people coward seems like a personal attack

and the reason i haven't really voted for anyone this game is because i haven't had to. most days i was trying to help keep the days going so we could discuss instead of quick lynching, the times i was willing to lynch someone they got the required number of votes without mine, no reason to beat a dead horse

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I know all about repeating empty accusations until they stick.

If you ignore the ridiculously petulant nature of the post, humour me as a newer player and tell me how that is in any way helpful?

I would also be okay with lynching Greg, as if you read through his post history, he has never voted for anyone in this game. I think he's ghosting through trying to stay off bandwagons and remain unnoticed.

Oh it usually isnt. Only do it when my gut gives me a strong read and I cant put my finger on why.

That is a really good point about Greg

Unvote Vote Greg.

@Greg, I have no idea what Hotshot is like in day to day life. In this game he is a coward. Thats not a personal attack. Its a statement of truth. Why are you so bothered? Let Hotshot defend himself.... unless he isnt willing to do so, cause you know what, he is being a coward...

[TimWoodbury]

id rather do commander/C9 he took over durning the night and his only post was basically im reading through give me time theres been nothing since add to the fact there was a missed kill N2 and he replaced a inactive it adds up he must be bad

vote commander

[Ragian]

While it might be possible (albeit highly unlikely in my opinion), there was an element of role fishing in some people's ways of going about the idea, entertaining the idea only because no one had claimed protective roles, which then stood out as an attempt to get such roles to claim.

I need more time on my hands today. I will reread as promised, but I can't seem to catch a break till tomorrow afternoon (old continent time). Do not lynch the next 36 hours, please.

[madmitch]

@ Tim why vote C9 ? makes no sense there are better targets out there. I like wcg ,he said he was a trolloc and for a while I believed him because of his unrenting attack of Mandy, no thinking ,just animalistic behaviour, but lately he has been calculating ideals and acting less trolloc so as one from the shadows I don't believe he is who he says he is.

[StorrZerg]

@ Tim why vote C9 ? makes no sense there are better targets out there. I like wcg ,he said he was a trolloc and for a while I believed him because of his unrenting attack of Mandy, no thinking ,just animalistic behaviour, but lately he has been calculating ideals and acting less trolloc so as one from the shadows I don't believe he is who he says he is.

Tim has made a case and voted. It's a weak case, could be on point. Wcg isn't being lynched today. You claim multiple better targets. Well, who especially.

[aage]

Thread blew up these last couple of days, good.

Who here thinks that we should kill off inactives because it's very likely that they're at fault for the lack of kill N2?

That's bullshit.

id rather do commander/C9 he took over durning the night and his only post was basically im reading through give me time theres been nothing since add to the fact there was a missed kill N2 and he replaced a inactive it adds up he must be bad

vote commander

That's bullshit.

@ Tim why vote C9 ? makes no sense there are better targets out there. I like wcg ,he said he was a trolloc and for a while I believed him because of his unrenting attack of Mandy, no thinking ,just animalistic behaviour, but lately he has been calculating ideals and acting less trolloc so as one from the shadows I don't believe he is who he says he is.

That's bullshit.

Somehow y'all seem to think that 1 inactive mafia member is responsible for the entire mafia team not killing anyone. And Mitch, players don't post based on their role flavour.
We haven't lynched any bads as far as we know, and you guys wanna waste lynches on people who are getting killed anyway. FoS on all of you.

Storr, voting c9 does nothing for the game and you know it, I don't like that you give Tim a pass on this.


Doom, Wing didn't buddy up to me, he actively antagonised me. I don't really get why you would think that. So that line of reasoning is flawed from the start.


I'll unvote vote greg cause this game needs to move forward... Rish if people don't post for the entire day just modkill them, dont replace them.

[sam_levi_11]

wing calling people coward seems like a personal attack

and the reason i haven't really voted for anyone this game is because i haven't had to. most days i was trying to help keep the days going so we could discuss instead of quick lynching, the times i was willing to lynch someone they got the required number of votes without mine, no reason to beat a dead horse

Perhaps this is true, but I also think it would be a little suspicious if every time you wanted to vote, they just happen to already be hammered.

I want to look at Tim, who, even if I ignore his dodgy posts a while back, I generally think his play has been a little suspicious the entire game. He's been on every lynch bandwagon I believe, tried (and failed) to hammer quickly, and sometimes not even made sense.

@ Tim why vote C9 ? makes no sense there are better targets out there. I like wcg ,he said he was a trolloc and for a while I believed him because of his unrenting attack of Mandy, no thinking ,just animalistic behaviour, but lately he has been calculating ideals and acting less trolloc so as one from the shadows I don't believe he is who he says he is.

Tim has made a case and voted. It's a weak case, could be on point. Wcg isn't being lynched today. You claim multiple better targets. Well, who especially.

In my opinion, I'd say C9 or Tim, failing that Greg. I find Tim the most suspicious and I can't quite work out why, and I want C9 gone as he is at best deadweight stopping us lynching scum and at worst actually is scum. I'd be happy if we lynched him or if was just modkilled.

[StorrZerg]

Pass no, actually voting when half the people in here are not. Stating a reason good. It's a crap reason .

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Sam and Mitch are both fighting this lynch. Mars logged in a lot of times yesterday and didnt post.

Finally some resistance to a lynch. I am not unvoting this time.

[new guy1]

Hey guys, I wanted to say that I've been loaded down at work as of late and so I've been reading the happenings (I could have posted, but I really didn't have much to say before rereading, so it would have been filler) but I have lacked in willpower to get the rereading done in a more timely manner. I will be getting a break within the next day or two, so it will be read, I just didn't want to disappear with the promise of reading and not check in for forever. The idea that greg hasn't voted all game/pretty much all game is one of the better, albeit not great, cases of the day. I don't know his meta, but it seems like he's trying to stay below the radar and remain neutral, so it's worth looking into to me unless something better presents itself in my reread. He's not near a lynch, and the day has gone on without any case for long enough that I don't see new information surfacing for a better option, so vote greg.

I still think C9's lack of posting is scummy, however I agree with whoever said it would bring nothing for us to examine to the table, so that can wait for a more opportune time.

I kind of believe WCG's breadcrumbs that he was speaking of earlier (in reference to when he said he kind of wishes he was mafia because he was setting lots of stuff up), however I have trouble believing his claim, due to not having seen a trolloc with a one time night action. His response to being examined seemed a little ruffled, but it's still nothing solid. I haven't seen enough to support a case on him right now.

I am definitely not your buddy Storr but I do wonder about your connection with Wing? and Wing what the hell is all the nonsense about Hotshots signing in times, I never look at the times I sign in, this is just another one of your games of screwing someones mind up and seeing what unfolds , And explain that coward remark if you can.

This was in response to storr's buddy buddy comment. I found it a little odd that one is saying buddying is happening and the other is denying it. It would seem if the buddying was so obvious, then denying such accusations would either put storr (the accuser) on the hotseat, or keep it on the denying party (madmitch), due to one telling a lie (one says there is buddying, the other says none is happening). I don't know if it's something to look into, but I thought it was at least worth a mention.

[DoomYoshi]

Doom, Wing didn't buddy up to me, he actively antagonised me. I don't really get why you would think that. So that line of reasoning is flawed from the start.

Interaction is interaction.

Zerg/wing/aage = mafia. Maybe with mitch.

[DoomYoshi]

Or wing is the cult recruiter and we are all fucked. Anyone who doesn't vote wing will cost us the game.

[TimWoodbury]

Wing does seem to be quit the leader today doom ill agree with you there

[Marashu]

I doubt Wing's a cult recruiter - I'm still convinced IB was. Now, since we've seen no proof of a vig beyond 2 NKs night 1, I'm beginning to believe it's more likely that IB tried recruiting scum N1.

Not too fond of Storr being so willing to go for the low-hanging fruit, but right now because of the vote-stealing that happened, I'm more willing to believe he's town, even though it was a really weak vote stealing ability. I agree that voting for people who should be modkilled for inactivity is pointless.

My head has mostly cleared up today (the meds left me having a really hard time making any sort of decision, so I was pretty much convinced by every case I read yesterday). I'll try to re-read the entire day tomorrow to form some actual opinions of my own.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Or wing is the cult recruiter and we are all fucked. Anyone who doesn't vote wing will cost us the game.

If I was cult recruiter you would already have lost.

Fortunately I am not.

But nevertheless you have lost. Your fight against this lynch is not going unnoticed. Join Sam and Mitch on the naughty seat.

[TimWoodbury]

aage it seems everyone who dont agree with you has lost. why do people who not agree with you have to lose?