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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:05 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Streaker wrote: If anything, we should look at the guilty confession of Wing.


There are three players coming out badly from the random vote; Myself, Storr and yourself. Why so quick to push the spotlight onto me?

Unsurprisingly, I will unvote myself when I have someone to vote for.


You pushed the spotlight onto yourself. This is scummy.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby Streaker on Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:06 am

StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


No
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:15 am

StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch. With so many roles, the night should be telling, but having no conjecture from day 1 is a bad idea in my opinion. Should have as much information as possible about D1 lynch so it gives us something to work with D2. No reason to rush this.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby NoSurvivors on Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:21 am

*rolls in fashionably late* sorry guys my hair dresser took all DAY you ladies wouldn't BRLIEVE what I just went through.

*flips hair that he doesn't actually have*

unvote my joke vote for now

Fast posted by wcg:

I doubt a rushed lynch d1 will help town much stor.. But wanting a "random lynch" will get you a little FOS from me. I don't think the mafia would let one of their own die so quickly and it is usually town that gets lynched randomly (but maybe that's just my experience).
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:22 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.


unvote

vote wingcmdr
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby rishaed on Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:22 am

StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


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@Mets Wing is very new to this forum... instead of just voting him for suggesting NL (which is a very logical thing to do for new players) Explain.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:58 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.


unvote

vote wingcmdr


Please explain Mets why you have taken my comment out of context? I did not suggest no lynch. I suggested that a random dice roll lynch would provide as little information as well as taking a player, likely town, out of the game. This is the second time you have taken a tiny remark from me and turned it into a scum claim.

Why do you so badly want me lynched when there are 14 players in this game, a lot of whom have not posted yet?
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:16 pm

We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:21 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.


unvote

vote wingcmdr


Please explain Mets why you have taken my comment out of context? I did not suggest no lynch. I suggested that a random dice roll lynch would provide as little information as well as taking a player, likely town, out of the game. This is the second time you have taken a tiny remark from me and turned it into a scum claim.


The bold is why I'm worried about you. Voting someone isn't always a statement that they are scum, especially not on D1. Indeed, you should understand that much immediately from the fact that I'd rather have a random lynch than no lynch. There are some cases where it's preferable to lynch someone for external reasons, like that their continued existence in the game is likely to lead town astray from the real targets.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby Iron Butterfly on Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:30 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.


unvote

vote wingcmdr


Please explain Mets why you have taken my comment out of context? I did not suggest no lynch. I suggested that a random dice roll lynch would provide as little information as well as taking a player, likely town, out of the game. This is the second time you have taken a tiny remark from me and turned it into a scum claim.

Why do you so badly want me lynched when there are 14 players in this game, a lot of whom have not posted yet?


Mets is pushing your buttons like an excited kid on an elevator who wants to go to every floor. I agree with others that you are overly defensive AND guilty of the same thing you accuse Mets of, taking things out of context. I have not seen him post anything remotely suggesting that he wants to lynch you.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby HotShot53 on Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:46 pm

StorrZerg wrote:We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg


I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:47 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch. With so many roles, the night should be telling, but having no conjecture from day 1 is a bad idea in my opinion. Should have as much information as possible about D1 lynch so it gives us something to work with D2. No reason to rush this.


NO!

Any lynch is better than no lynch. There is seriously no better way to guarantee a drawn out, little talk game than to putz around and dip your toes in rather than jump in. Action is best to get the game started.

In fact, this is enough for me atm:
unvote vote Wing

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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:51 pm

HotShot53 wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg


I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.


He isnt Calm at all lol
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:52 pm

Rails pushing wcg off miss reading a post is strange. .. wonder what his response will be... (looking at you tails )
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:53 pm

StorrZerg wrote:Rails pushing wcg off miss reading a post is strange. .. wonder what his response will be... (looking at you tails )


Wing is arguing for a lynch, and that a rng lynch is worse than no lynch.

Tails misses the point that wcg is for a lynch, and doesn't want to rush the game....
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby Army of GOD on Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:20 pm

unvote

any day 1 vote is pretty much a random vote anyway, I don't see a reason to do a completely random vote.

the wcg wagon is dumb. He never said he wants a no lynch, just that he prefers it over a random lynch.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:21 pm

Army of GOD wrote:unvote

any day 1 vote is pretty much a random vote anyway, I don't see a reason to do a completely random vote.

the wcg wagon is dumb. He never said he wants a no lynch, just that he prefers it over a random lynch.


That's not why I voted him
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:54 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Rails pushing wcg off miss reading a post is strange. .. wonder what his response will be... (looking at you tails )


Wing is arguing for a lynch, and that a rng lynch is worse than no lynch.

Tails misses the point that wcg is for a lynch, and doesn't want to rush the game....


I didn't miss any such point. I clearly stated that a random lynch is preferable to no lynch, regardless of whether you want a genuine lynch.

Barring the unusual trip up, you won't get a real day one lynch. They either come down to petty bickering or stall and end in nobody doing anything.

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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:09 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Rails pushing wcg off miss reading a post is strange. .. wonder what his response will be... (looking at you tails )


Wing is arguing for a lynch, and that a rng lynch is worse than no lynch.

Tails misses the point that wcg is for a lynch, and doesn't want to rush the game....


I didn't miss any such point. I clearly stated that a random lynch is preferable to no lynch, regardless of whether you want a genuine lynch.

Barring the unusual trip up, you won't get a real day one lynch. They either come down to petty bickering or stall and end in nobody doing anything.

-Tails


Well if you keep pushing bad cases then yes thats what it will come down to.

You are nitpicking his post, to make a bad case that is easily defended. Hence why im defending this accusation even though im Pushing on him.

He clearly gives reasoning as to why he believes a Lynch is preferable, and that his remark was to an entirely RANDOM lynch which i proposed. (a 100% random lynch with out human influence) You might be thinking all day 1 lynches are random, while he was responding to something else.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby Army of GOD on Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:58 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:unvote

any day 1 vote is pretty much a random vote anyway, I don't see a reason to do a completely random vote.

the wcg wagon is dumb. He never said he wants a no lynch, just that he prefers it over a random lynch.


That's not why I voted him


that's why TG voted him though
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:59 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:unvote

any day 1 vote is pretty much a random vote anyway, I don't see a reason to do a completely random vote.

the wcg wagon is dumb. He never said he wants a no lynch, just that he prefers it over a random lynch.


That's not why I voted him


that's why TG voted him though


sure and i agree with your comment regarding him.

i do not agree with it regarding my push
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby mtamburini on Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:19 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch. With so many roles, the night should be telling, but having no conjecture from day 1 is a bad idea in my opinion. Should have as much information as possible about D1 lynch so it gives us something to work with D2. No reason to rush this.


Seems kinda towny from a new player prospective UNVOTE

HotShot53 wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg


I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.


I completely agree but I think hotshot has TMI with this statement trying to buy some early day1 towncred EGMEOY

Army of GOD wrote:unvote

any day 1 vote is pretty much a random vote anyway, I don't see a reason to do a completely random vote.

the wcg wagon is dumb. He never said he wants a no lynch, just that he prefers it over a random lynch.


This made me chuckle considering it was on me and our past history of budding heads. Wanna give a few reads?

I also softly dislike Tails, something just rubs me the wrong way with his posts. Its different from the last game Ive played with him but at the same time the same.

I cant really pin why except for the shitty reasons he wants to lynch WCG, but I like the fact that he wants to lynch.

OH and I love storr thus far, reconsider on WCG I think hes town nothing strong but I think looking into HOT would be better right now.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:22 pm

O i don't love you to much yet tambo. you gotta woo me good baby girl
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby strike wolf on Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:30 pm

Unvote at least until I've caught back up.

mtamburini wrote:
strike wolf wrote:So hmmm...uhh....*twiddles thumbs* Random votes eh?

If you're mafia please raise your hand and if you're town raise your hand. AHA! We've identified all the third parties! ;)

Anyways

Unvote Vote Streaker The mod told me that he stole my sweet roll.


Wait you know their are/is third parties in this game too?!?!

Highly suspect of strike "wolf"

But to more important news, apparently rng says wcg will not be playing towards his win condition so decides to vote himself.

vote wcg

Rng can be cruel game sorry it didn't work out for you.


Actually I am just spouting off nonsense. Interesting that I drummed something up. You do however seem to have been made aware that there is some kind of third party. Of course this means very little until I know more about what's actually going on.

StorrZerg wrote:unvote

SO yall are still going to do your joke votes anyways, the random votes seems pretty dumb imo.


If it makes you feel better, you can imagine us as the teachers on Charlie Brown. Wok wok. Wok wok wok wok.

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Streaker wrote: If anything, we should look at the guilty confession of Wing.


There are three players coming out badly from the random vote; Myself, Storr and yourself. Why so quick to push the spotlight onto me?

Unsurprisingly, I will unvote myself when I have someone to vote for.


Hmmm....a bit defensive perhaps?

StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


You miss out on the hunt of endlessly pursuing half of town and some of mafia on D1? I am shocked!

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Who is up for an rng lynch?


Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch. With so many roles, the night should be telling, but having no conjecture from day 1 is a bad idea in my opinion. Should have as much information as possible about D1 lynch so it gives us something to work with D2. No reason to rush this.


I agree as far as the notion of pushing buttons and trying to getting something from D1.

Metsfanmax wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please


A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.


unvote

vote wingcmdr


While I can't say I've agreed with every word Wingcmdr has said so far...I feel this was taken a bit out of context and I don't think he was actually pushing for a no lynch.

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WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.


Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.


unvote

vote wingcmdr


Please explain Mets why you have taken my comment out of context? I did not suggest no lynch. I suggested that a random dice roll lynch would provide as little information as well as taking a player, likely town, out of the game. This is the second time you have taken a tiny remark from me and turned it into a scum claim.

Why do you so badly want me lynched when there are 14 players in this game, a lot of whom have not posted yet?


Mets is pushing your buttons like an excited kid on an elevator who wants to go to every floor. I agree with others that you are overly defensive AND guilty of the same thing you accuse Mets of, taking things out of context. I have not seen him post anything remotely suggesting that he wants to lynch you.


You know. Other than the fact that he voted for you.

I am kind of surprised that the fact that Mtam basically admitted to knowing that there are third party in this game was so easily overlooked. Of course it doesn't mean anything solid as of yet.

As far as a serious vote, I am not ready to commit on anyone yet. In hindsight, I think I see the point of some of Storr's comments that I at first thought sounded strange coming from him but I won't get into it yet. Most have only made between 1-3 posts (myself included) and I simply do not know enough about Wing to commit to feelings of town or mafia right now.

Edit before post: He's new to this forum (which is something to consider) but he is not new to mafia from what I can tell.
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Re: Double Fanucci Mafia Game (14/14) Day 1: Amnesia

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:07 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Rails pushing wcg off miss reading a post is strange. .. wonder what his response will be... (looking at you tails )


Wing is arguing for a lynch, and that a rng lynch is worse than no lynch.

Tails misses the point that wcg is for a lynch, and doesn't want to rush the game....


I didn't miss any such point. I clearly stated that a random lynch is preferable to no lynch, regardless of whether you want a genuine lynch.

Barring the unusual trip up, you won't get a real day one lynch. They either come down to petty bickering or stall and end in nobody doing anything.

-Tails


Well if you keep pushing bad cases then yes thats what it will come down to.

You are nitpicking his post, to make a bad case that is easily defended. Hence why im defending this accusation even though im Pushing on him.

He clearly gives reasoning as to why he believes a Lynch is preferable, and that his remark was to an entirely RANDOM lynch which i proposed. (a 100% random lynch with out human influence) You might be thinking all day 1 lynches are random, while he was responding to something else.


I've played MANY more games than you have. It's the trend of this forum as the quality has gone down, unfortunately. I understand that Wing may favor a "real" lynch (ha), but it just doesn't happen.

If you don't want to believe, that's fine. Any reason is better than no reason for D1 (including random), and right now my primary concern is keeping the game lively. I am extremely busy and if this game fizzles out because of the usual fence-sitters afraid to make a sacrifice, then I will be very disappointed that I've wasted my time. If you don't like that, tough titties.

WING:
How many games have you played? I saw there was some discussion in the sub forum about the hostile or overly critical behavior towards newbies. I certainly wouldn't want to contribute to that.

mtamburini wrote:This made me chuckle considering it was on me and our past history of budding heads. Wanna give a few reads?

I also softly dislike Tails, something just rubs me the wrong way with his posts. Its different from the last game Ive played with him but at the same time the same.

I cant really pin why except for the shitty reasons he wants to lynch WCG, but I like the fact that he wants to lynch.

OH and I love storr thus far, reconsider on WCG I think hes town nothing strong but I think looking into HOT would be better right now.


Don't worry, the feeling's mutual, slick. :-#
Meanwhile, do you have much to add besides wifom observations?

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