Judgement Day- Game Over, MAFIA WIN!!!

[mandalorian2298]

If he menages to lynch me, that would give his boss two more Nights for recruiting (since I expect the Town would lynch Firth tommorow).

This too is flawed reasoning : there is no vig among the dead yet, and I think it's fairly reasonable to assume he'll act tonight. There are plenty of suspicious targets. Your timeline is flawed and so is your reasoning.

Both Nights ended with 1 NK. There is no Vig among the living either.

So the only valid reasons for me doing this if I was scum is to take attention off SL and AD.

I suggest we lynch one of them today NK mandy and the other (if possible) tonight.

I am only saying this as you are all too stupid to go through with the mandy lynch.

And to freezie, I posted my reasons as to why it was flawed next to the suggestions

I believe that a consensus between the Good (represented by me) and Evil (that would be Firth) has been reached.

Unvote Vote AD.

[F1fth]

I still would not discount the fact that Firth has been spoken to one of the gods. Of course the message would be from JND, Firth, otherwise it'd be frightfully obvious for you to deduce which god was which. But once again, does it seem logical that all gods can do is throw fruitless messages at us? We get enough of that in these mafia games.

But an item of discretion is the fact that in Firth's first investigation, revealing cult, he knew EXACTLY his affiliation, i.e. Nostradamus Cult (with color and all). His second investigation only said that Mandy was scum. Why the difference?

[F1fth]

Oh, by the way, I do maintain my vote on SL, as my mind on him has not changed.

[mandalorian2298]

I still would not discount the fact that Firth has been spoken to one of the gods. Of course the message would be from JND, Firth, otherwise it'd be frightfully obvious for you to deduce which god was which. But once again, does it seem logical that all gods can do is throw fruitless messages at us? We get enough of that in these mafia games.

But an item of discretion is the fact that in Firth's first investigation, revealing cult, he knew EXACTLY his affiliation, i.e. Nostradamus Cult (with color and all). His second investigation only said that Mandy was scum. Why the difference?

Because it would be a bit hard to for him to say that I am Abraham and then push for my lynch.

[freezie]

I still would not discount the fact that Firth has been spoken to one of the gods. Of course the message would be from JND, Firth, otherwise it'd be frightfully obvious for you to deduce which god was which. But once again, does it seem logical that all gods can do is throw fruitless messages at us? We get enough of that in these mafia games.

But an item of discretion is the fact that in Firth's first investigation, revealing cult, he knew EXACTLY his affiliation, i.e. Nostradamus Cult (with color and all). His second investigation only said that Mandy was scum. Why the difference?

Because he can't think of a fake-role to give mandy..Obivously.

[Skoffin]

I also find it odd that Firths investigation suddenly changes through the day, I believe he has been compromised. But a odd thought came to me, since Mando can mae crazy theories I figured I should try one of my own , thinking of Satan made me think of Possesion. Demons possess people to spread fear, confusion, and to destroy. Is it possible that Satan can possess and control players for a limited time in this game? It could explain why he suddenly changed on his investigation, and why he won't tell anything.
Meh, just putting it out there >>

[ga7]

Not a bad idea. I was thinking earlier that this is so weird a move that it feels like something Skittles might do... Either way Mandy, I really don't get why you want AD lynched now. Let's just lynch Firth, and see if AD must be dealt with in the night or next day, or if you're the one that needs to die instead.

[jnd94]

VOTE COUNT

1-AD (Mandy)
4-Sierra_Leon (F1fth,Neutrino,AD,Syzygy)
1-Skoffin (Skoffin)
4-Mandy (Firth,Selin,Fircoal,Koesen)
3-Firth (nagerous,ga7,freezie)

With 18, it takes 10 to lynch!

[Sierra_Leon]

I can't believe I have to be the one to point this out to you - me being the most opposed to Mandy's post restriction theory - but look at this quote:

So the only valid reasons for me doing this if I was scum is to take attention off SL and AD.

I suggest we lynch one of them today NK mandy and the other (if possible) tonight.

I am only saying this as you are all too stupid to go through with the mandy lynch.

And to freezie, I posted my reasons as to why it was flawed next to the suggestions

Why is freezie's name in red? Mandy must have noticed too, since he removed the color-tags when he quoted firth:

So the only valid reasons for me doing this if I was scum is to take attention off SL and AD.

I suggest we lynch one of them today NK mandy and the other (if possible) tonight.

I am only saying this as you are all too stupid to go through with the mandy lynch.

And to freezie, I posted my reasons as to why it was flawed next to the suggestions

There's got to be a better explanation for that than a post restriction.


On another note, I think there is a good possibility that we still have a vig around. In DoW mafia I was vig and I didn't use my kill the first two nights either.

[Koesen]

Both Nights ended with 1 NK. There is no Vig among the living either.

Right. Because all vigs always kill every night, especially night one, and they're never obstructed by roleblockers, doctors and bulletproof people.

You have yet to come with an argument that does not have a hole in it.

Seriously. All you people who say Mandy makes perfect sense: does this not sound like complete BS to you? Just like his jester/lyncher/suicide attention drawing story?

If you prefer to kill the cop, fine.

Unvote. Vote Firth.

Don't blame me when he turns out to be exactly what he says, though.

[kwanton]

You will never get mandy lynched



vote AD

[gimpyThewonder]

Firth, gimpy...The fact I am suspicious of you is for going that adament after mandy, when I know I can trust him..

His claim makes perfect sense. And I doubt it's recruitable.

how was my previous statement adamently going after Mandy? I dare you to point out a single bit of it that is incorrect or misleading. Oh that's right, ya can't.

I could say i'm suspicious of you for vote hopping more than frogger, but there are bigger fish to fry. personally i'm holding my vote until we get something a bit more solid. no one has presented any evidence w/ substance

[mandalorian2298]

I also find it odd that Firths investigation suddenly changes through the day, I believe he has been compromised. But a odd thought came to me, since Mando can mae crazy theories I figured I should try one of my own , thinking of Satan made me think of Possesion. Demons possess people to spread fear, confusion, and to destroy. Is it possible that Satan can possess and control players for a limited time in this game? It could explain why he suddenly changed on his investigation, and why he won't tell anything.
Meh, just putting it out there >>

Great theory, Skoffin. If that is the case, then we should not lynch either Firth or myself, but go after AD and SL, for they are the ones who gt protected by this move (I love how there is so much explantions for Firth's behavior, but only one logical conclusion: AD or SL is being covered by Satan).

Both Nights ended with 1 NK. There is no Vig among the living either.

Right. Because all vigs always kill every night, especially night one, and they're never obstructed by roleblockers, doctors and bulletproof people.

You have yet to come with an argument that does not have a hole in it.

Seriously. All you people who say Mandy makes perfect sense: does this not sound like complete BS to you? Just like his jester/lyncher/suicide attention drawing story?

If you prefer to kill the cop, fine.

Unvote. Vote Firth.

Don't blame me when he turns out to be exactly what he says, though.

Bravo Skoffin! Koesen, as tempting as lynching you is right now, I would still prefer to take out the big Cahuna. Don't worry, you'll get your turn.


To all of you who at present don't wish to claim Satan-ling, here is your task:

My 3 possible (not allways probable, though) theories about Firth's behaviour and Skoffin's "Possesion Theory" all point toward the same conclusion: Firth is throwing himself to the wolves to save either AD or SL. The question is: Which one?

I would like to hear everyone's oppinion on why is either AD or SL a better candidate for being the Big Satanling!

[freezie]

Firth, gimpy...The fact I am suspicious of you is for going that adament after mandy, when I know I can trust him..

His claim makes perfect sense. And I doubt it's recruitable.

how was my previous statement adamently going after Mandy? I dare you to point out a single bit of it that is incorrect or misleading. Oh that's right, ya can't.

I could say i'm suspicious of you for vote hopping more than frogger, but there are bigger fish to fry. personally i'm holding my vote until we get something a bit more solid. no one has presented any evidence w/ substance

We have many evidences with substance, you just can't see them. As for going adamently after Mandy: It was..Your 5th or 6th post of saying he is the overallscum? That's surely not too much..

[jnd94]

Announcement

I am still contemplating a day limit, because of the upcoming holidays. Some of you have already pm'ed that you will not be here for a while, due to Christmas, the new year, etc. I want this day to go until a lynch is reached, but I don't want it to drag through the holidays. The day will continue, but if you aren't getting anywhere, then I will be forced to put a limit on. The game will most likely be on hold from Christmas to the New Year, and I want it to be night when this happens. Thanks.

BTW, 50 pages!!

[F1fth]

I also find it odd that Firths investigation suddenly changes through the day, I believe he has been compromised. But a odd thought came to me, since Mando can mae crazy theories I figured I should try one of my own , thinking of Satan made me think of Possesion. Demons possess people to spread fear, confusion, and to destroy. Is it possible that Satan can possess and control players for a limited time in this game? It could explain why he suddenly changed on his investigation, and why he won't tell anything.
Meh, just putting it out there >>

Great theory, Skoffin. If that is the case, then we should not lynch either Firth or myself, but go after AD and SL, for they are the ones who gt protected by this move (I love how there is so much explantions for Firth's behavior, but only one logical conclusion: AD or SL is being covered by Satan).

Both Nights ended with 1 NK. There is no Vig among the living either.

Right. Because all vigs always kill every night, especially night one, and they're never obstructed by roleblockers, doctors and bulletproof people.

You have yet to come with an argument that does not have a hole in it.

Seriously. All you people who say Mandy makes perfect sense: does this not sound like complete BS to you? Just like his jester/lyncher/suicide attention drawing story?

If you prefer to kill the cop, fine.

Unvote. Vote Firth.

Don't blame me when he turns out to be exactly what he says, though.

Bravo Skoffin! Koesen, as tempting as lynching you is right now, I would still prefer to take out the big Cahuna. Don't worry, you'll get your turn.


To all of you who at present don't wish to claim Satan-ling, here is your task:

My 3 possible (not allways probable, though) theories about Firth's behaviour and Skoffin's "Possesion Theory" all point toward the same conclusion: Firth is throwing himself to the wolves to save either AD or SL. The question is: Which one?

I would like to hear everyone's oppinion on why is either AD or SL a better candidate for being the Big Satanling!

Like I said before, AD's role is believable. SL however has not given me any reason to not suspect his motives.

And SL, I noticed the red letters too, but I don't think Firth's highlighting of Freezie's name was anything he was forced to do. I think it was to emphasize the fact he believed freezie to be scum, but the more I think about it, the weirder it is.

[Talapus]

I may not trust Mandy 100% right now, but we can always consider lynching him tomorrow. Besides, I don't see that he is the best choice now anyway. As for AD, well I still believe his roleclaim. Also, it fits for the game and I think it probably wouldn't hurt to keep him around for another day or so to see what happens. Therefore, SL wins by default. I'm not convinced as much by his arguements as I am by the ones from other people and it sounds that out of AD and SL that SL is the smarter choice. So, Vote - - - SL.

[Sierra_Leon]

Pff, I just realized that me voting for Nark was the reason I was under suspicion in the first place. Now that voting for him is no longer considered a federal offence I'll be happy to join the bandwagon, as the arguments I gave back then still hold. Vote AD.

Reminder of my arguments back then:

To comment on the accusations against me: I can see how it's suspicious to vote for a possible cop, but I think I stated my reasons for it very clearly. There have been two nights where AD could've gotten an investigation, but the first night he claims he had some RL issues going on and wasn't paying attention to the game and the second night he was blocked. He could be telling the truth, but they are two very easy excuses to make up. That was my main argument against AD. The part where I said he would be useless anyway if he got blocked every night was not my argument to vote for him. It was merely a best worst case scenario.

[Koesen]

Bravo Skoffin! Koesen, as tempting as lynching you is right now, I would still prefer to take out the big Cahuna. Don't worry, you'll get your turn.

Right. So now you're claiming I'm the scum recruiter/possessor? You forget that I have been investigated by Firth already and I am clearly not part of any mafia.

Or are you saying that I was recruited myself and then turned into a second recruiter/possessor? Wouldn't put it past you. It's just nonsensical enough.

I repeat my earlier question: if you were scum and you recruited Firth, would you throw him away like that? He'd be much more use in the end game. If I were scum and I recruited him, I'd keep him alive, let him investigate townies and gain credibility with every investigation (because his results would be confirmed by the following night kills). Then, at LYLO, and not before that, would I let him screw town with a fake scum result.

[spinwizard]

I am going with SL

vote sl

[firth4eva]

unvote vote SL. Just to prove I am not protecting him.

Kill mandy tonight.

[nagerous]

Meh... I'll confirm my vote on firth but I would also like to vote koesen for being scum too. I know by voting the scum recruits it doesn't help our cause much but I think the Antichrist (probably selin) will be too elusive to catch at the moment. AD, I say you investigate him tonight.

[Koesen]

So you believe I'm a scum recruit too?

You people boggle my mind.

I've been going after Mandy because he made numerous statements that make no sense at all. At this point, the only people who have reason to believe him, are people with a similar role, which I don't have. If you have to go by what he said recently (Firth is a jester, Firth is a lyncher, Firth is protecting SL, there is no vig, I recruited/possessed Firth), you really can't take him seriously.

I claimed a long time ago, I have been investigated. If you think I'm scum, go on and lynch me, but I promise you you won't be pleased with the result.

[gimpyThewonder]

Firth, gimpy...The fact I am suspicious of you is for going that adament after mandy, when I know I can trust him..

His claim makes perfect sense. And I doubt it's recruitable.

how was my previous statement adamently going after Mandy? I dare you to point out a single bit of it that is incorrect or misleading. Oh that's right, ya can't.

I could say i'm suspicious of you for vote hopping more than frogger, but there are bigger fish to fry. personally i'm holding my vote until we get something a bit more solid. no one has presented any evidence w/ substance

We have many evidences with substance, you just can't see them. As for going adamently after Mandy: It was..Your 5th or 6th post of saying he is the overallscum? That's surely not too much..

[mandalorian2298]

unvote vote SL. Just to prove I am not protecting him.

Kill mandy tonight.

Speaking of which, should I kick the bucket tonight, I name Skoffin my succesor. You can trust her good intentions (if not her sanity ) as much as you could trust mine. Also there will be just one less person whom can confirm her pro-Towness.

To the rest of the people who know my role and who's roles I know: For the love of God, don't react to this by post stuff like 'But why not me? "