Double Fanucci Mafia (4/14) Endgame

[StorrZerg]

Ib isn't lynched after claiming vig today lol

[Iron Butterfly]

what is with hotshot claiming 2 colors in his role and in the scene there is a double blue? mod mistake? ... we only saw blue blue, red red so far, rishaed you have blue red? do people care to share there code names? maybe we can make something of that? not sure, but have some theories i would like to put to the test based on the claims seen so far.
as for good will: i am the 7 of Zurfs. blue blue for the people interested in that part to...

My role involves me having a duo action in which hotshot claimed to have, therefore I am inclined to believe that there are 2 factions of 2 most likely or a bunch of sks, someone mentioned something about one sk having to kill another or something like that which has intrigued my interest because that would make IB prime suspect as his reasoning for kill streaker lines up with him trying to find the person who he must kill to achieve his win con.

@IB are you a one shot vig or can u shoot again?

Why would you believe there are 2 factions of 2, and is there another faction that is town? how do you see this game like that ? is it just plain badluck that both factions targeted town if we have 2 factions?
i might kind of hope for 2 factions as that would leave the possibility of them killing eachother....
@ mtam and this post what exactlu did you mean with the first sentence hotshots claim and you, i didnt get that. you got the same role ?
@ mtam on streaker dying if recruiting anti-town, interesting thought, but there is one flaw in the reasoning. IB claimed that he killed him....

@aog... im not a big poster indeed, i only get around once a day usually and that doesnt work everyday. Especially since it always takes me ages to catch up and write posts. i am not a big spam poster i tend to post only a few times but i try to give reads and opinions in these posts as to participate in the game. for me its impossible to post more often since im basicly either asleep or at work the rest of the time and it easily takes me an hour to fully read and write a post.

i would like pressure on AoG, Mtam and DD today since these are my main anti-town reads.
ill vote mtam for the flaw mentioned above.
besides mtam come with some reads... we can all tak about the 1000 different possible setups but that doenst help much in reading who is what.

fped by mtam... well see the flawed conclusion i am referring that is basicly you saying ib is not a vig, or did you forget at that moment?

Virus...Town Role Blocker was in Blue. Last Fromp was in Red

[StorrZerg]

You might push he is 3rd party sk, even so no way he is mafia with the claim.

[rishaed]

You might push he is 3rd party sk, even so no way he is mafia with the claim.

Storr, are you talking about IB? I agree he could be the SK, but i doubt it.

[StorrZerg]

You might push he is 3rd party sk, even so no way he is mafia with the claim.

Storr, are you talking about IB? I agree he could be the SK, but i doubt it.

Yea same, very unlikely. why not aog rishaed

[rishaed]

I'm gonna go ahead and vote rishaed


I assumed (like most) that he had some sort of PR day 1 but now he seems to be posting fine. He also (as he admitted) forced two townies to claim D1, acting like he's some scum hunter supreme, knowing that scum hunters are more likely to be seen as town. It just seems like a veteran scum play, instead of scumarining he's trying to gain attention to not seem as scummy.


it's weird, but that's what I think. I've liked strike's posts recently so I see him more as town.

Along with rish, I have virus as scum. He's been laying very low this game.

everyone else is either town or neutral or Storr.

I get back from a final to find this
I may not be happy with the roles that were claimed, but I will not regret causing the people i found scummy to claim. Also, I did it with a self imposed post restriction that i was doing to enjoy day one. In comparison please tell me what cases you built. The only reason you would have to not want any information D1 and just a lynch is questionable.
Mtamb, did you read any of my earlier posts explaining my reasoning. Those are intrinsically the reasons why we should get claims from the hotshot lynch today.
Also Virus my colors are not red/blue or blue/blue, but i have 2 colors. one of which is blue.

Maybe I am not understanding, but what difference does it make both are now confirmed town so just because hotshot got lynched means all the scum voted on him and all the town voted wing?

Scum probably voted on both.

I await to hear your response

Scum probably did vote on both. Thats not what i'm saying though. What i'm saying is that we had 8 people on the hotshot lynch. 3 are dead, one is claimed 3rd party, one is claimed doc. Lets say your assertion of 2 scum parties of 2 or Scum +SK is true. As scum would you rather lynch the roleblocker, and get rid of a protective who has some legitimacy from information during the day or a rolecop you can kill in the night. That all Three of the dead people were town either indicates that: A. The mod is messing with us and there is no scum in this game (the though briefly crossed my mind D1) B. We have 3 independent parties either (SK+Scum, Scum +Scum, assuming vig is true), or TG's role had something of a wager in it and he died because of an effect of his role. OR PGO, Vig/SK, Scum group (also possible). Also since the reasoning on the hotshot lynch was crap (I'm still amazed you guys got enough support for it), scum would love to be on the wagon (preferably early so no explanations required). So out of 8 People 3 are left, with scum probably in between. I don't know if DY would leave town without a doc with multiple killing roles, so I'll take NoS off of the list (right now). It is the best information we have right now.
(And yes Mets I'm trying to work on my cases on you three, but its gonna be awhile cause my time is limited, and this is probably already too much time spent on CCmafia today.)
Storr: We have a less diluted source from hotshot lynch. Admitted AoG doesn't like me but at least he tried to start a case on me today. Also our information is more reliable because it is given from the mod.

[dd515087]

Catching up, this is going to be quick though as I have to get back to studying for finals, I'll be more active once the weekend hits.

As for IB's claim, I think vig would be the easiest claim for a SK 3rd party or whatever to use. Plus town vig is usually a 1 shot type of thing. I think he would be a good lynch, we need to get rid of any anti-town killers.

As for rishaed, so you say that scum probably did on both, but then you still insist that we should only look at the 3 on the HotShot lynch? Why not look at all 5 of us??? Also, if I were scum I would want the spy lynched just in case he got saved the next night. My vote stays.

As for AoG, I like him a little bit more since his read on rishaed (I might be biased though since I also think rish is scum, so take it as you will). I don't like him enough to move my read to neutral though.

Did I miss anything? I'll check back in a little bit.

[Iron Butterfly]

Unless there is a counter claim to NOS he is the doc as far as I am concerned.

you are not this dumb

This as well. You act as if a 1 sentence exclamation is a suitable answer.

Whay is my statement dumb??

Storr you and mtam usually play a lot of footsie through out the games I have played with you both.

I do not disagree with the observation on AoG BUT you have also been strangely silent about Mtam. Whats your take on Mtam or are you trying to play both sides to hedge your bets??

[StorrZerg]

I'll play with tamb latter. His hint of what his role makes me not really care for his claim today.

[mtamburini]

Ib isn't lynched after claiming vig today lol

When do you play off claims and not reads?

Did you think he was town before the claim?

[StorrZerg]

yes, i defended him yesterday didnt i

[Army of GOD]

town vig is a ballsy claim so yeah, IB is pretty much town at this point

[mtamburini]

I thought both streaker and IB were scummy, and it just seems convenient to me that my one scum read shot another one

[virus90]

@ Doom yoshi,

sorry my mistake i see.

[StorrZerg]

Whats the vote count?

[DoomYoshi]

Vote Count

Army of GOD (1) - StorrZerg
NoSurvivors (1) - dd515087
rishaed (2) - Army of GOD, NoSurvivors
mtamburini (2) - Iron Butterfly, virus90

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[StorrZerg]

4 people with out votes

please vote soon
mtamb
rishaed
Mets
Strike

@dd515 you still sticking with your read on Nos?

[StorrZerg]

and did i miss something, who claimed spy dd515??

[mtamburini]

4 people with out votes

please vote soon
mtamb
rishaed
Mets
Strike

@dd515 you still sticking with your read on Nos?

Im between AOG and Rishead atm, risheads comment to not voting aog felt like he was telling his mafia partner he was doing a good job but leave me alone

[StorrZerg]

4 people with out votes

please vote soon
mtamb
rishaed
Mets
Strike

@dd515 you still sticking with your read on Nos?

Im between AOG and Rishead atm, risheads comment to not voting aog felt like he was telling his mafia partner he was doing a good job but leave me alone

Make a choice, and what about nos? With dd5 pushing him

[Metsfanmax]

4 people with out votes

please vote soon
mtamb
rishaed
Mets
Strike

@dd515 you still sticking with your read on Nos?

Ok, fair enough, I will vote rishaed. I've made it clear that I was not a fan of rishaed's playing around on D1, and instead of being apologetic about it and admitting that town may have suffered, he has gotten defensive about it. That's not in town's best interests.

I have noticed a lot of people say they get a scum vibe from AoG (frankly I felt it too at times), but very few people have been able to find anything concrete to support their view. Until that happens, there's not much of a case for him.

[strike wolf]

So far the behavior that puzzles me the most is Mtam. He has seemed aware and cautious regarding third party since early day 1 and has gone as far as to suggest a two sk set up in contrast to Wing's stated win condition but has mostly ignored Storr's third party claim.

[Iron Butterfly]

So far the behavior that puzzles me the most is Mtam. He has seemed aware and cautious regarding third party since early day 1 and has gone as far as to suggest a two sk set up in contrast to Wing's stated win condition but has mostly ignored Storr's third party claim.

Storrs playing both sides though he wont admit it.

[dd515087]

@dd515 you still sticking with your read on Nos?

I thought I was on rishaed... I guess not though.

I definitely still don't trust NoS, but if nobody else wants to go that way I'll go ahead and unvote, vote rishaed

Although I would also be fine with an AoG lynch, I feel like rishaed has the stronger case. If rishaed flips town then I'm looking at AoG, IB, and NoS tomorrow (depending on who survives the night)

and did i miss something, who claimed spy dd515??

Wings did yesterday, that's all I was talking about.

[dd515087]

So far the behavior that puzzles me the most is Mtam. He has seemed aware and cautious regarding third party since early day 1 and has gone as far as to suggest a two sk set up in contrast to Wing's stated win condition but has mostly ignored Storr's third party claim.

Storrs playing both sides though he wont admit it.

If Storr is 3rd party survivor then obviously he doesn't care who wins. He does seem to be trying to help town like he said though.

Mtam puzzles me also, I don't really have a good read on him. He doesn't seem scummy to me, but he doesn't seem town either. If there is another 3rd party, he could be it, but I don't really have a case on him either way. If there is another 3rd party besides storr in this game it's probably between mtam and IB.