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[mtamburini]

Another good question relevant to my allignment.

A+

Another good response meant to misdirect attention from your inability to give any sort of answer as to what your strategy was when you claimed a night power.
A++

IVE ALREADY FUCKING EXPLAINED IT YOU RETARD, TO GET THE GAME ON FUCKING TRACK AND TO END THE TROLL FEST

[mtamburini]

IF YOU KEEP ASKING THE SAME QUESTION AND CHANGE IT SLIGHTLY AND EXPECT ME TO ANSWER IT AGAIN YOU CAN f*ck OFF

[got tonkaed]

Degaston -id recommend pulling back a little here. At this point all any of the three of us are doing is more or less name calling.

Theres been a ton of posts and at this point everyone is going to have to do a bit of reading to catch up. If mtam has something new to bring up as a defense or questions to ask sweet, but I don't personally have anything to contribute. If you don't either, maybe both of us should take a play or two off.

[mtamburini]

Degaston -id recommend pulling back a little here. At this point all any of the three of us are doing is more or less name calling.

Theres been a ton of posts and at this point everyone is going to have to do a bit of reading to catch up. If mtam has something new to bring up as a defense or questions to ask sweet, but I don't personally have anything to contribute. If you don't either, maybe both of us should take a play or two off.

You have not contributed anything except ask empty questions that serve no purpose except to gain role information as apposed to allignment information, and when asked about it you refuse to answer

[degaston]

Sorry tonka, but I find this one hilarious:

IVE ALREADY FUCKING EXPLAINED IT YOU RETARD, TO GET THE GAME ON FUCKING TRACK AND TO END THE TROLL FEST

Now the king of misdirection wants to get that game back on track, while he claims to have already answered a question that he also claims not to have understood.

What are you trying to even question me about?

I have to go now, anyway.

[dd515087]

Sorry I have been absent everyone, totally forgot I was in this game... Oops. I'll try and catch up by tonight... but there's like 500 posts to read... sigh

[mtamburini]

Sorry I have been absent everyone, totally forgot I was in this game... Oops. I'll try and catch up by tonight... but there's like 500 posts to read... sigh

Non excusable you will be lynched just like hots will and whoever just came back from being away

[mtamburini]

Sorry tonka, but I find this one hilarious:

IVE ALREADY FUCKING EXPLAINED IT YOU RETARD, TO GET THE GAME ON FUCKING TRACK AND TO END THE TROLL FEST

Now the king of misdirection wants to get that game back on track, while he claims to have already answered a question that he also claims not to have understood.

What are you trying to even question me about?

I have to go now, anyway.

I had already previously answered which is why I was wondering what the f*ck you were trying to ask if it was the same question which i fucking answered already or something different.

[aage]

Three pages added and absolutely nothing useful in them, thanks a lot guys, great job. Real high class discussion.

Mtam posted pages ago that he didn't have the time for this game because of the amount of posts.

Assuming that I have kp at night, how is the amount of KP that I have relevant to determine my allignment? You are just fishing for a role claim not trying to determine my allignment.

This is 100% correct.

I guess in order

1)What was the read or case against Raigan? He had no interactions with Storr when you said he did, do you feel you lied in your response to Streaker, or was there another detail?
2)Why did you soft claim? you were not prompted to do so. Was the claim completely a joke?
3)Assuming 2 is not, you noted you have a killing power at night, is it a one shot deal.
4)Why did you bandwagon sempai when there was no legit case against him
5)Why wont you claim?

1) barely a relevant question to your case
2) rolefishing
3) rolefishing
4) he didn't
5) rolefishing

Real good relevant questions mate. Remember the post where you cast your vote on Mtam?

unvote
Vote mtam

I more or less agree with the idea that Mtam has not really done much to defend himself and may be copping to not being town aligned here. Again a third party character with a night kill (or possibly even recruit) ability is good enough to lynch.

If meta is anything to be believed, Storr is just deflecting for his buddy. Degaston is of note for deciding that after all of the content we do have, that it would be better to just push that all aside and hope for the best with a lurker. Weird.

You only care about the fact that he has soft claimed the ability to kill Storr, and the fact that you don't believe that this ability is town aligned. The only reason I can see for your rolefishing is because you either think his claimed ability is indicative of his alignment, which is a bad assumption, OR because you just want to know more about his ability instead of trying to actually find mafia. Both those things are bad.

You're aiming to please other players in all of your posts, players who needn't even be town.

Who have I been trying to please? My most serious recent vote was for Sempai, and I gave my reasons, but I was accused of bandwagoning. I voted for Pershy originally because he had contributed so little, and then when I actually looked at his contributions, they were nothing but "me too's", so I think it's legitimate to put some pressure on him to talk a little more. If he's too busy, maybe the mod should replace him.

Meanwhile, I notice that you're a real trailblazer - willing to boldly go wherever your intricate reasoning takes you, no matter what the consequenses...

Vote Storr for no apparent reason.

Alright, I'm willing to go on board with the Sempai case.... For now I'll vote Sempai to see what he has to say in defense.

Unvote

Which one of us is just trying to please people?

Ah, the ol' switcheroo. This is the exact definition of OMGUS. It's also the exact definition of hypocricy if it's being followed by this:

Unvote
Vote Mtam
For answering reasonable questions with a stupid question.

Clarification: I'm not in favor of lynching Mtam at this point, but that response just seems like stalling and evasion. No one forced you to talk about you're night action. If you didn't want to discuss it, you should have just kept quiet about it.

I've already said that I wasn't happy with the case against mtam, but I want to pressure him to give a better answer to your questions. If someone hammers him when we still have 4 days until deadline, then that's not my fault. I'll be happy to unvote as soon as he gives a somewhat more substantive answer to your questions. If he is town, and answering will hurt the town, then he shouldn't have talked about his night power in the first place.

Okay - now I'm in favor of lynching you - happy?

You can be a new player all you like but please..... quit the pot kettle bullshit. Also quit the pot kettle bullshit argument you're in with Mtam over what a "reasonable" question is, and who is distracting who from what. It's useless, pointless and in no way related to the game.



Fastposted by a bunch of other useless posts, stop polluting this thread with your useless bullshit. No offense.

[dazza2008]

Tell me how storr was being productive for town then, and how everyone else was being productive

@Dazza Not excusable you will be lynched after hotshot

Fair enough. I can save time and not read all the pish you post then. Cheers.

[aage]

Ive obviously been not participating in this game for a couple days and posting very little in other games because I have IRL stuff to do, with this being the biggest game it gets ignored because there is more to read. I will never claim nor do i suggest anyone to ever full claim.

Here is the post in question btw

[aage]

Tell me how storr was being productive for town then, and how everyone else was being productive

@Dazza Not excusable you will be lynched after hotshot

Fair enough. I can save time and not read all the pish you post then. Cheers.

He's joking because everyone is on his ass for not posting after he posted what i quoted above.

[got tonkaed]

Aage - i know we haven't agreed on Mtam all day and that you noted he was your strongest town read. I'll go back through again and see if you stated why, apologies if i have forgotten it.

I would like to clarify since I am clearly pretty deep in this at this point. I think Mtam has been scummy all game and it is not merely set up on any one of those things.

The first question of the list is relevant because its the starting point for where I felt like he started doing some scummy things. I honestly would have accepted if he would have just gone out and said it was all jokey and that he was just messing with those two. He never said it though.

I think the second question is valid to determine why he would have tried to start a gambit with no real provocation. This may be where you and I differ as i believe you think there is a gambit at play. I have never played a game with Mtam and to be honest I don't see anything that tells me he is sophisticated enough to run one, nor would it have made sense to run one in that spot even if he could of.

FP aage the never going to claim is a position you can hold i guess. I dont know why he would want to play the quote the win condition or pm game otherwise though.

The third question ties into the second because if he truthfully does not have a killing power or that was part of something else, if we out it, we can move past it. You probably should lynch all liars, but if there is some reason that I cant think of for that to be in play, then it is wroth hearing out.

He basically threw support toward the bandwagon. My problem is, i dont think Mtam has read very much of the game at all. So if he isnt reading, and he is willing to jump on any lynch that is not a super towny tactic.

I actually wasnt asking for a claim there, though this might be semantic. I was asking why he felt he didnt need to claim. The problem was we then spiraled into the next three pages. Mtam has spent the thread not reading, omgusing and lying. It is pretty lynchable if you ask me.

[MudPuppy]

Im confident that you do not have a role similar to mine or you wouldve backed the f*ck off by now which leads me to believe you are not town. There are other people who have similar role pms like mine (I really do not have to soft it and I hope I accidentally have not) but if I have then the people who are defending me know about it and are trying to keep me alive without outting that part of our PM.

If you dont know what im talking about, I cannot help you further explain it. Does the entire role pm flip with me or just the character name?

Why would you knowingly alert scum this class of roles like yours and direct them where to look for those who have it if you want town to win?

Re reading my role pm town never has a chance to win this game ever if rule #2 is going to be strictly inforced which is why ROLE CLAIMS are fucking terrible especially the name part.

Are you trying to get yourself Mod-Killed?

@Dazza Not excusable you will be lynched after hotshot

Non excusable you will be lynched just like hots will and whoever just came back from being away

Do you think HotShot should be lynched? If so, why?

Trying really hard not to rage flame

Please try harder.

[aage]

Aage - i know we haven't agreed on Mtam all day and that you noted he was your strongest town read. I'll go back through again and see if you stated why, apologies if i have forgotten it.

I would like to clarify since I am clearly pretty deep in this at this point. I think Mtam has been scummy all game and it is not merely set up on any one of those things.

The first question of the list is relevant because its the starting point for where I felt like he started doing some scummy things. I honestly would have accepted if he would have just gone out and said it was all jokey and that he was just messing with those two. He never said it though.

I think the second question is valid to determine why he would have tried to start a gambit with no real provocation. This may be where you and I differ as i believe you think there is a gambit at play. I have never played a game with Mtam and to be honest I don't see anything that tells me he is sophisticated enough to run one, nor would it have made sense to run one in that spot even if he could of.

FP aage the never going to claim is a position you can hold i guess. I dont know why he would want to play the quote the win condition or pm game otherwise though.

The third question ties into the second because if he truthfully does not have a killing power or that was part of something else, if we out it, we can move past it. You probably should lynch all liars, but if there is some reason that I cant think of for that to be in play, then it is wroth hearing out.

He basically threw support toward the bandwagon. My problem is, i dont think Mtam has read very much of the game at all. So if he isnt reading, and he is willing to jump on any lynch that is not a super towny tactic.

I actually wasnt asking for a claim there, though this might be semantic. I was asking why he felt he didnt need to claim. The problem was we then spiraled into the next three pages. Mtam has spent the thread not reading, omgusing and lying. It is pretty lynchable if you ask me.

The first question is the most valid of the questions, but it hadn't been discussed for ages and everyone was just taking a massive dump on Mtam for apparently not posting, even though he explained why.

The reason why I don't think his gambit is scummy is that gambits aren't provoked - you play a gambit to get more information, to get a ball rolling, to set a trap, to play a strategy. Explaining the gambit would defeat the entire point of starting it, and I didn't mention right away that I thought it was a gambit because it would sabotage the attempt. I don't read his thoughts but I think he didn't say it was jokey because he wasn't joking - he was playing the game. Concerning whether he's sophisticated enough - he is, definitely. Probably one of the best players currently on the forum if it wasn't for his attitude.

Yes, mtam probably hasn't read very much of the game. He said so. He also said why. That of itself is not indicative of anything other than he has no time for it.

I think you use a different definition of OMGUS than I do, but I might be wrong. I haven't seen Mtam doing that, as far as I know he hasn't changed his vote since he voted Ragian. You say he has spent the thread lying, please show me where he lied. I'd be surprised if you would find a single instance that was not a sarcastic comment provoked by bad arguments.


About the PM-thing, I agree he should not have gone there and I don't like it, but that's up to the mod. Game-wise, it doesn't prove his scum alignment - technically it should prove his town alignment.

[aage]

@Dazza Not excusable you will be lynched after hotshot

Non excusable you will be lynched just like hots will and whoever just came back from being away

Do you think HotShot should be lynched? If so, why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auFx8U1t3hE

I am gonna stop explaining mtam's frustrated sarcasm after this.


Loads of people voted for mtam because he didn't read the thread, mtam is replying to everyone who said "i've been away and havent read thread" by saying they should be lynched - like himself.

[got tonkaed]

I KNOW YOURE READING THIS AT WORK BETCH YOU DIE TODAY OR TONIGHT CHOOSE STORR

You are so dumb. I've claimed 3rd party survivor

You're third party survivor and you're claiming right off the bat on day one? That deserves a lynch, and I'm totally willing to risk being a dick over it.

If hes not he will die tonight, you should be fousing on finding mafia.

This post to me seems like it cannot be truthful unless it is a role that I don't know. If it was true, then Mtam should be lynched for being cult.

[MudPuppy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auFx8U1t3hE

No, it wasn't intentional. Guess I'm just the idiot that Storr claims mtamb thinks I am.

[StorrZerg]

Idgaf never lynching aage

[mtamburini]

Aage - i know we haven't agreed on Mtam all day and that you noted he was your strongest town read. I'll go back through again and see if you stated why, apologies if i have forgotten it.

I would like to clarify since I am clearly pretty deep in this at this point. I think Mtam has been scummy all game and it is not merely set up on any one of those things.

The first question of the list is relevant because its the starting point for where I felt like he started doing some scummy things. I honestly would have accepted if he would have just gone out and said it was all jokey and that he was just messing with those two. He never said it though.

I think the second question is valid to determine why he would have tried to start a gambit with no real provocation. This may be where you and I differ as i believe you think there is a gambit at play. I have never played a game with Mtam and to be honest I don't see anything that tells me he is sophisticated enough to run one, nor would it have made sense to run one in that spot even if he could of.

FP aage the never going to claim is a position you can hold i guess. I dont know why he would want to play the quote the win condition or pm game otherwise though.

The third question ties into the second because if he truthfully does not have a killing power or that was part of something else, if we out it, we can move past it. You probably should lynch all liars, but if there is some reason that I cant think of for that to be in play, then it is wroth hearing out.

He basically threw support toward the bandwagon. My problem is, i dont think Mtam has read very much of the game at all. So if he isnt reading, and he is willing to jump on any lynch that is not a super towny tactic.

I actually wasnt asking for a claim there, though this might be semantic. I was asking why he felt he didnt need to claim. The problem was we then spiraled into the next three pages. Mtam has spent the thread not reading, omgusing and lying. It is pretty lynchable if you ask me.

Why bother explaining them now when I only asked you to at least 3 times. Buddying to aage now are we?

[mtamburini]

I KNOW YOURE READING THIS AT WORK BETCH YOU DIE TODAY OR TONIGHT CHOOSE STORR

You are so dumb. I've claimed 3rd party survivor

You're third party survivor and you're claiming right off the bat on day one? That deserves a lynch, and I'm totally willing to risk being a dick over it.

If hes not he will die tonight, you should be fousing on finding mafia.

This post to me seems like it cannot be truthful unless it is a role that I don't know. If it was true, then Mtam should be lynched for being cult.

Are you trying to bait me to tell you more of my role in the hopes I get modkilled?

[StorrZerg]

I KNOW YOURE READING THIS AT WORK BETCH YOU DIE TODAY OR TONIGHT CHOOSE STORR

You are so dumb. I've claimed 3rd party survivor

You're third party survivor and you're claiming right off the bat on day one? That deserves a lynch, and I'm totally willing to risk being a dick over it.

If hes not he will die tonight, you should be fousing on finding mafia.

This post to me seems like it cannot be truthful unless it is a role that I don't know. If it was true, then Mtam should be lynched for being cult.

Since when does cult kill people they can't recruit?

They more often die when trying to recruit mafia.....
and possibly I can't be recruited because I'm neither town or mafia.

You are absolutely paranoid to hell that cults are in this game.

Facts are, we know we have town.
we know magia are in the game.
(me 3rd party survivor, you can take that for what it's worth.)

We have no idea knowing if cults are in this game. So stop acting like they are real.

[aage]

Since when does cult kill people they can't recruit?

They more often die when trying to recruit mafia.....
and possibly I can't be recruited because I'm neither town or mafia.

You are absolutely paranoid to hell that cults are in this game.

Facts are, we know we have town.
we know magia are in the game.
(me 3rd party survivor, you can take that for what it's worth.)

We have no idea knowing if cults are in this game. So stop acting like they are real.

Opening post is gospel, it mentions recruitment and busdriving. Then again, recruitment doesn't confirm cult either and we have no evidence either way except that cults are very rare.

[got tonkaed]

No i am not.

I'm willing to get on board with the idea that there was some reason to gambit at the beginning of d1, but i am not sure there was a reason to gambit Storr. So back when I had mistakenly assumed that Storr might have some kind of day investigative check (reading clues too hard since it doesnt really fit theme), aage mentioned that Storr meta wise would never do that D1. Well then why would Mtam gambit Storr?

I dont really feel like i am buddying aage, I feel like he is a vote I would need to get back over and he is someone who is defending you so maybe he has the reason why you shouldnt be lynched.

I feel like it is easy to discount the jokey Raigan/storr will be lynched with no case, but we shouldn't because apparently Mtam doesnt joke. So if the gambit is there it doesnt make sense meta wise and there was the original lie. It seems like enough.

For Mtam's post to be true that you would die in the night, he would have to be cult recruiting mafia as that kills the mafia members. Otherwise, he lied multiple times in a gambit when he didnt have to, if the gambit is real.

[dazza2008]

Tell me how storr was being productive for town then, and how everyone else was being productive

@Dazza Not excusable you will be lynched after hotshot

Fair enough. I can save time and not read all the pish you post then. Cheers.

He's joking because everyone is on his ass for not posting after he posted what i quoted above.

I got it but thanks for explaining.

3 pages of mtamburini not answering questions is shite though. I have seen nothing from him that helps town in the slightest. He just gets offensive when anyone asks anything. I can't tell if he is scummy or just being a twat as town but either way it's f*ck all help to town.

unvote vote mtamburini