Forum war mafia Peace treaty signed! Landgrab, spamalot win

[Minister Masket]

People, I have an unexpected announcement to make:

Fircoal is part of the Pikachu Clan!

You may faint in shock over there in the corner.

You serious MM?
If so, then I suggest to the Pikachu clan that they should stop befriending the Landgrabers (Scum) and to turn their diplomatic efforts towards the pro-town factions. If tommorow's diplomacy chart shows that they continued with their bad ways, I suggest that we lynch Fircoal as a warning. Fos Fircoal

I am deadly serious.
Now I know that I haven't got the best track record of honesty in mafia (see the "Jester" incident with ga7 ), so you lot can take this with a pinch of salt.

I'm happy with a Fircoal lynch because:
A) It balances out the individual clan losses, in a way.
B) It'll cement my position as an investigative role for one of the clans.
Yes I am part of one of the clans, but tough sh*t if you think I'll be revealing which.
Oh, and if any clever bugger thinks he can do away with me with a night kill, tough sh*t to you too. My clan member is protecting me every night.

[Minister Masket]

People, I have an unexpected announcement to make:

Fircoal is part of the Pikachu Clan!

You may faint in shock over there in the corner.

Doesn't mean he is in this game

Yes, he is.

Explain more please.

What's more to explain?
Fircoal ((???) - Pikachu Clan) is what you'll see if he dies, ok? Along with his character name of course.

And after reading those last pages, I've found out that I've just openly revealed myself as scum in my last post. Oh dear....

[diddle]

Using the updated diplomatic standings page this is what I determined.

Mods killed Lord Voldemort (Spamalot changed to Worst Enemy) and did some kind of diplomatic action with Pikachu
Flamers (Spurgistan changed to worst enemy) were killed by Landgrab
CC Esoog (Skittles) was killed by Brawl Hall (worst enemy) and did some kind of diplomatic role with spamalot
Spamalot had LV die by the mods and did some kind of diplomatic action with CC Esoog
Pikachu had some kind of diplomatic action with Mods
Brawl Hall killed off Skittles(CC Esoog) and became allies wtih Land Grab
Landgrab killed Spurgistan (Flamers) and became allies with Brawl Hall

My suggestion is we try to take down one of the following today. Mods, Brawl Hall, or Landgrab. Those we know have killing roles based off of the updated diplomatic standings. Unfortunately I didn't think of writing this after day 1. We also have one other killing faction out there as we lost a townie so it didn't show up on the diplomatic standings page.

How viable can we consider this analysis to be?

[Neoteny]

Ok guys. For the record, I have not been submarining on purpose. It just seems that the mod has ignored my request to be replaced and just left me in while I went on vacation. When I came back, the thread had exploded into a mess of the shit that it now is. So after reading all bajillion pages, even the useless spam (f*ck you guys) I'm now caught up(ish). But I'd like a vote count before I consider tossing my hat in on tonka. He might be the last or nearing the last of the Spamaloters, but he's still a shooter, and could still do some damage to any party. I'm not so keen on taking chances, though I can definitely see some use in keeping him around. So we'll see.

[nagerous]

Right



UNVOTE VOTE FIRCOAL


We can keep tonka for now, he'll probably be offed in the night and if he uses his vig powers to weaken the other factions better to keep him around...


Pikachu clan however are full strength better to weaken one of their players.

[lord voldemort]

dammit im dead....i hate you all

i cant stay mad at you

[CrabNebula]

We can keep tonka for now, he'll probably be offed in the night and if he uses his vig powers to weaken the other factions better to keep him around...
Pikachu clan however are full strength better to weaken one of their players.

Partly I agree that Pikachu need to be weakened, but I don't like the idea of a killer roaming around freely though if the other clans don't want to lose a member I guess they might have to take a shot at him. I think at this point he would hurt more of a faction than town.

so unvote vote Fircoal

and lol MM, I think you will be kept alive as long as you get the scum results

[Skoffin]

I think killing GT is pretty stupid. I still believe Esoog and spamalot are looking to kill other factions, not here to hurt town. Damaging this two factions damages town I think, less people to take out the real threat factions.
Fircoal is apparetly from the Pikachu clan, which is working with Brawlhall, so even if there is doubt on whether the other factions may be here to help or destroy town, there isn't doubt on brawl hall. So I think it is better to off those over the other.

Vote Fircoal

[Minister Masket]

and lol MM, I think you will be kept alive as long as you get the scum results

Not necessarily.
In a huge game like this with so many power roles and actions flying around, anything could happen.

UNVOTE, VOTE FIRCOAL

[Skoffin]

Whups, forgot to add. I don't think we should bother with GT as I'm sure one of the enemy factions will off him tonight anyway. So why waste our lynch when we can waste their night actions.

[mr. incrediball]

claiming to be the last member of his faction. Hecter would most likely be in spamalot and I don't see him in the dead list. This tells me that GT is lying about how spamalot would die with his death.

i was thinking this through last night and came to the same conclusion. also, how do we know gt dies tonight? this mysterious hecter, or one of spamalot's allies, could all have protective roles. failure to get gt killed in some way, in my book, will result in the release of the ninja monkeys.

vote gt

[nagerous]

FOS Mr. Incrediball for completely ignoring the Fircoal lead....


Why stupidly weaken one faction when Tonka himself said he could catch lotsa other scum with his vigilante kills.

Fircoal's lynch seems the best bet but I would reccomend we lynch masket at some point too, he's probably an investigative role from the *shudder* Mod Squad *shudder* and should be dealt with accordingly...

[mr. incrediball]

FOS Mr. Incrediball for completely ignoring the Fircoal lead....

we don't know what fircoal's power(s) is/are. tonka is a confirmed killer who cannot be trusted by the town, and may have protective roles backing him up, and we have no proof the people he kills tonight are gonna be mafia.

[nagerous]

Dude... hes spamalot. They've already lost 2 men, as a faction they are weak enough. By you being dead set against him, it makes you look ultra scummy. Either that or you have no concept of the idea of balance of power. Tonka can be handy in taking out scum from other factions and I personally think he can do a good job, eventually he will be lynched but for now I reccomend keeping him alive.

[CrabNebula]

Moreover, if a situation occurs wherein two persons are found to be scum, we can ask gt to kill one and lynch the other.

[Serbia]

AH, this thread makes my head hurt. I can't really justify killing GT right now. The Fircoal wagon is just to even the playing field? I guess that makes sense... share the misery eh?

I dunno, I think I need to reread before voting.

[kalishnikov]

There is one additional case that I overlooked at that time. That being either of them recruited the other. Anyway I want to hear from kalish about this.

what do you want hear from kalish about? that i tried to shoot him? I think he would have a hard time knowing very much about that. I think its quite possible spurg blocked me and whoever the shooter was for someone else they axed him.

Yea there was not recruiting that happened and I wasn't notified of the attempt on my life, must have been a lucky roleblock I guess?

Regardless of gt's faction, he's a vig from a weakened clan, personally I say leave him be. He will continue and make kills which will benefit the town-related factions here, I see no need to lynch him today. (and I say this even though he tried to kill me, lol)

FOS: Serbia Submariner...

[lalaland]

I suppose GT could be beneficial to the to the town in the end... i don't think we should let him stay around too long though.

unvote

i'm not going to vote fircoal until we hear from him

[F1fth]

I suppose GT could be beneficial to the to the town in the end... i don't think we should let him stay around too long though.

unvote

i'm not going to vote fircoal until we hear from him

Just what I was thinking.

unvote

[mandalorian2298]

AH, this thread makes my head hurt. I can't really justify killing GT right now. The Fircoal wagon is just to even the playing field? I guess that makes sense... share the misery eh?

I dunno, I think I need to reread before voting.

I can justify killing Tonka right now: HE HAS NIGHT KILL ABILITY AND HE WORKS FOR MAFIA!!!

As for your head-ache, it is a result of you trying to inspire sympathy in the reader before you proceed to advocate allowing a proven Mafia hitman to get away with killing Spurgistan.

FOS Serbia for being a part of Tonka's Mafia.

[got tonkaed]

go ahead and lynch serbia....hes not a spamalot, so its no snot out of my nose so to speak.

[mandalorian2298]

go ahead and lynch serbia....hes not a spamalot, so its no snot out of my nose so to speak.

I would advocate lynching Fircoal before we lynch Serbia.

However, we should probably take care of ARMED scumster first. Sorry Tonka, but plain old logic states that every Townie will be less likely to die, if we lynch you first.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I fully agree with keeping the vote on GT. He is a member of a scum group, has tried to kill two times, has lied about being the last member of his group, who he tried or did not try to kill, and has the ability to randomly pop off on any one of us. GT is not a "townie" so he will feel no need to actually care about on who he tries to kill. Every kill that GT makes will help get another scum group closer to victory.

Even if spamalot is "eliminated" which I personally doubt over his statement concerning hecter we still would have 6 other scum groups plus town. It would let us try to to get the other scum groups out of here without running the risk of losing another townie each night as we've already had a few fall by the wayside.

[CrabNebula]

At this point I think there are more factions combined than there are scum which means he is more likely to hit a scum group than town. So a Fircoal lynch seems a much better idea to me. Spamalot is already weakened very much so that in order to not get lynched gt will have to follow what town says which almost in essence makes him a town vig but Pikachu is at full strength and thus a greater threat.

[nagerous]

Some of your guys logic is way off, now tonka is outed theres little he can personally do. His scum group is pretty fubared now, he might as well use his killing powers for the benefit of those who are actually in the town faction (like me) though I seem to be the only person . Fircoal is in Pikachu Clan

We don't know his role but it could be just as powerful and dangerous as Tonka's except Pikachu Clan is full strength unlike spamalot, which is much weakened.

They are also allied with the fully strengthed Brawl Hall.

Fircoal lynch is the best solution...... anyone who disagrees with it is likely to be in league with Brawl Hall or the Pikachu Clan and therefore cannot be trusted.


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