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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:16 pm

F1fth wrote:Well, that turned out just as I had hoped. I'm not sure there's a whole lot to explain at this point, but feel free to ask questions if you have them.

So, let's find the last scum or two, shall we?


Hm. Uh. How will we be doing that?
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby / on Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:36 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
F1fth wrote:Well, that turned out just as I had hoped. I'm not sure there's a whole lot to explain at this point, but feel free to ask questions if you have them.

So, let's find the last scum or two, shall we?


Hm. Uh. How will we be doing that?

Probability wise, by killing everyone who's not F1fth?
Of course someone would bring up the possibility of killing teammates as an elaborate double ploy. (That's the one who'd we'd kill first :P )
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:04 pm

:lol: You're right about that. I'd assume that f1lth is cleared with that shot!
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby captainwalrus on Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:10 pm

colton24 wrote::lol: You're right about that. I'd assume that f1lth is cleared with that shot!

Maybe he just was killing his buddy to look like he was not scum, and you are his other scum buddy, covering up!
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:53 pm

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colton24 wrote::lol: You're right about that. I'd assume that f1lth is cleared with that shot!

Maybe he just was killing his buddy to look like he was not scum, and you are his other scum buddy, covering up!


Or maybe you're scum by mentioning this!


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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:35 pm

captainwalrus wrote:
colton24 wrote::lol: You're right about that. I'd assume that f1lth is cleared with that shot!

Maybe he just was killing his buddy to look like he was not scum, and you are his other scum buddy, covering up!


He could've been doing that, but I ain't scum anywho. I just wonder how he chose who to shoot....
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby F1fth on Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:53 pm

So are you guys just going to "speculate" or do you have any practical questions to ask? I've said that I'm more than willing to answer reasonable questions, but if you're just going to insinuate my scumminess without doing anything to either prove or disprove it, then I'd say you're behavior is highly suspect. Especially you, /, who has spent much of this game flying under the radar.

How are we going to find scum, you ask? Look for them! Are you just waiting to be told what to do? We have four days of discussion and two known scum. Why not look at how LSU interacted with other people in the early game (no bother looking for DCR, he didn't say much of anything).

But the point is that good town should be asking questions (yes, you should even be asking me... I understand perfectly well the legitimacy of suspicion towards my actions), not waiting to be led around or making sly and subtle suggestions.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby F1fth on Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:58 pm

And if anyone daykills me hastily, please shoot them dead as they are almost assuredly scum. I have no more day kill so there's really no risk in pressuring me.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:43 pm

Who do we have on our Top Scum List?
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby Rainbow Eater on Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:15 pm

At first, I did not want Fifth to say anything about how he knew that death was a gunslinger because it might tip the mafia. But / does make a good point. That kill pretty much clears Fifth, which would be a really good plan if you were mafia. So I would like to know why did you kill death? You kind of did it out of the blue. This is all that Death said while he was in the game:

deathcomesrippin wrote:vote AoG
He just seemed to argue for killing Colton a bit too much.


I am not accusing you in any way but it would be nice to know what you were thinking and I think it could shed light on who the last gunslinger is.

That being said, here is what I am thinking:

There is 1 gunslinger left out there, and I think he is the leader from looking at the dead players:

3. Senfive (Cultist) Killed Night 1
12. SFX!(Gunslinger) Modkilled Day 2
16. cowboyz (Cult Leader) Killed Day 2
9. wercool (Cultist) Lynched Day 2
6. deathcomesrippin (Gunslinger) Killed Day 4

Here who is left:

4. Rainbow eater - no day kill left
7. Army of GOD
8. Crazyirishman
10. captainwalrus
11. F1fth - no day kill left
13. spurgistan
14. /
15. nagerous
18. colton 24

rereading I have seen very few posts that have anything in them worth a toot. but there are a few. all the replacements make it hard to follow what people were doing what and who was going after who. So I would like to hear from Fifth before we move on.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby Rainbow Eater on Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:16 pm

On a side note, we are 2 for 2 with our guns.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:27 pm

2 for 3 actually. Remember wer's shot. ;)
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby Rainbow Eater on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:27 pm

colton24 wrote:2 for 3 actually. Remember wer's shot. ;)



that was a dying blast. he had no intel to go on, just a roandom shot, but yeah, I forgot about that.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:30 pm

Rainbow Eater wrote:At first, I did not want Fifth to say anything about how he knew that death was a gunslinger because it might tip the mafia. But / does make a good point. That kill pretty much clears Fifth, which would be a really good plan if you were mafia. So I would like to know why did you kill death? You kind of did it out of the blue. This is all that Death said while he was in the game:

deathcomesrippin wrote:vote AoG
He just seemed to argue for killing Colton a bit too much.


I am not accusing you in any way but it would be nice to know what you were thinking and I think it could shed light on who the last gunslinger is.

That being said, here is what I am thinking:

There is 1 gunslinger left out there, and I think he is the leader from looking at the dead players:

3. Senfive (Cultist) Killed Night 1
12. SFX!(Gunslinger) Modkilled Day 2
16. cowboyz (Cult Leader) Killed Day 2
9. wercool (Cultist) Lynched Day 2
6. deathcomesrippin (Gunslinger) Killed Day 4

Here who is left:

4. Rainbow eater - no day kill left
7. Army of GOD
8. Crazyirishman
10. captainwalrus
11. F1fth - no day kill left
13. spurgistan
14. /
15. nagerous
18. colton 24

rereading I have seen very few posts that have anything in them worth a toot. but there are a few. all the replacements make it hard to follow what people were doing what and who was going after who. So I would like to hear from Fifth before we move on.


Intresting. I was wanting f1lth to reveal his reasoning, but he has flown under the RADAR on that. I mean why shoot someone out of the blue? Sure nice shot, but I don't see any reasoning behind it
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby Rainbow Eater on Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:18 pm

colton24 wrote:Intresting. I was wanting f1lth to reveal his reasoning, but he has flown under the RADAR on that. I mean why shoot someone out of the blue? Sure nice shot, but I don't see any reasoning behind it


I am not accusing fifth, but I would like to hear what he has to say. depending on what he says, I think we would want to examine this a little more:

deathcomesrippin wrote:vote AoG
He just seemed to argue for killing Colton a bit too much.


SFX said nothing all game and all death said besides this are little things like "trying to read 30 pages" or "is it day or night"

This quote maybe all we have to go on.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby captainwalrus on Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:04 am

Maybe lay off Fifth. I can't think of any reason why if he was scum why he would want to kill of his buddy with no pressure on anyone. Maybe we don't want o expose what he is, just in case there is something the scum could learn.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby Rainbow Eater on Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:13 am

captainwalrus wrote:Maybe lay off Fifth. I can't think of any reason why if he was scum why he would want to kill of his buddy with no pressure on anyone. Maybe we don't want o expose what he is, just in case there is something the scum could learn.


we outnumber the scum big time. It would really be a shame if Fifth was a criminal mastermind and killed his own guy and won because no one questioned him.............................
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby F1fth on Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:06 pm

Well, I expected this to happen.

Since we're getting down to the wire and I think we're one or two scum kills away from winning, I think it'd be better to share some of what I know before I get offed.

First, I have an non-conventional investigative role. I am not a cop and I don't get to find out 100% of the info about people's actions/role/affiliation.

Second, I killed DCR based on information from my role, as well as by observing who I thought was responsible for the first couple night kills (I was right that it was likely LSU).

Third, I can confirm one player here town, and I know what he/she does. I can assure you all that such information should be saved for endgame however.

Fourth, besides DCR I used my ability on cowboyz and pmchugh, whose deaths helped me figure out how my role works (it's not super obvious, but it's useful).

Fifth, I expect to be a target for scum kills. If we have doc out there (and I'm pretty sure we do), I ask for your night protection. I'm pretty sure I'm as close to a cop as we got.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby F1fth on Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:14 pm

If there are any more questions, please ask. But for the time being, I'm going to focus on scum hunting.

Judging from the behavior of known scum this game, (and this is me metagaming here) I'd say that the last scum or two is most likely to be among more inactive members or those who replaced inactive members around the middle of the game. That said, top of the list is crazyirishman who I'm not sure is ever around here anymore.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:06 pm

F1fth wrote:If there are any more questions, please ask. But for the time being, I'm going to focus on scum hunting.

Judging from the behavior of known scum this game, (and this is me metagaming here) I'd say that the last scum or two is most likely to be among more inactive members or those who replaced inactive members around the middle of the game. That said, top of the list is crazyirishman who I'm not sure is ever around here anymore.


Crazyirishman said he is playing for his title and I think is still playing on for another tournament title
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:36 pm

Hm. For some reason, I feel like F1fth is playing us. Other than that...I got nothing.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby / on Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:04 pm

colton24 wrote:
F1fth wrote:If there are any more questions, please ask. But for the time being, I'm going to focus on scum hunting.

Judging from the behavior of known scum this game, (and this is me metagaming here) I'd say that the last scum or two is most likely to be among more inactive members or those who replaced inactive members around the middle of the game. That said, top of the list is crazyirishman who I'm not sure is ever around here anymore.


Crazyirishman said he is playing for his title and I think is still playing on for another tournament title

Not it matters if the case is he's a submariner as a strategy, but if there is indeed only one scum left, it would have to be someone active on Night Two, as LSU Needed to be replaced Mid-day two, and was replaced Day Three. So someone else needed to kill gregwolf121 that night.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:07 pm

Army of GOD wrote:Hm. For some reason, I feel like F1fth is playing us. Other than that...I got nothing.


That is what my gut is sayin.....
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby F1fth on Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:00 pm

Army of GOD wrote:Hm. For some reason, I feel like F1fth is playing us. Other than that...I got nothing.

colton24 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Hm. For some reason, I feel like F1fth is playing us. Other than that...I got nothing.


That is what my gut is sayin.....


Seriously, ask yourselves: are you voting for me because you honestly believe me to be scum based on my behavior, or are you just saying that because I don't always say the nicest things and I'm not afraid to be blunt?

Are my actions that of a person trying to win this game by lying to you and staying out of the limelight, or that of an investigative role who discovered and immediately killed one of the liars?

THINK. There is NO reason you should be using your gut right now. Honestly, I don't know why I'm trying. You guys literally refuse to provide any original thoughts and contribute, instead waiting for someone to tell you what to do. I doubt you both would have even thought of the possibility of me faking this whole thing were it not for a few others present (though I made it perfectly obvious in my post that I felt it reasonable to question me... because I actually look at the game from other people's perspectives :o )

I'm sorry for the attitude, but come on. It's obvious that you guys consider me the likeliest to be scum (which is ridiculous frankly) and you still don't even pursue it with any questions, back it up with any theories or evidence, or follow through with a vote! You literally add nothing to the game by doing this.
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Re: Gunslinger Mafia- Day 4

Postby F1fth on Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:14 pm

/ wrote:
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F1fth wrote:If there are any more questions, please ask. But for the time being, I'm going to focus on scum hunting.

Judging from the behavior of known scum this game, (and this is me metagaming here) I'd say that the last scum or two is most likely to be among more inactive members or those who replaced inactive members around the middle of the game. That said, top of the list is crazyirishman who I'm not sure is ever around here anymore.


Crazyirishman said he is playing for his title and I think is still playing on for another tournament title

Not it matters if the case is he's a submariner as a strategy, but if there is indeed only one scum left, it would have to be someone active on Night Two, as LSU Needed to be replaced Mid-day two, and was replaced Day Three. So someone else needed to kill gregwolf121 that night.


Interesting, but I had figured that LSU was the one responsible for the night kill of greg as it would fit with his MO (the colton kill made all too much sense, knowing LSU). The subsequent killing of duday I figured was the work of a newer member, possibly one who didn't know the usual rabble as well, since it seemed like a less meaningful choice. That player I think was DCR. That's a little more of the reasoning behind my kill, besides the role stuff.

So the last member of scum, I thought, would be an member, inactive in the mid-game, who would have submitted no kills and whose lack of presence would have made his scum mates feel like they were fighting an uphill battle by themselves, hence the frequent replacements. As I said, a bit of metagaming, but it worked out well for us, eh?
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