[GON 2nd mafia game] The townies won

[Killuminati19]

Forgot Check m8 is a newbie too. Unvote
Vote Archer
I would like to hear more from him.

[archer3base]

Forgot Check m8 is a newbie too. Unvote
Vote Archer
I would like to hear more from him.

Sure... what would you like to know?

[archer3base]

First, I want to say Happy New Year to all my townies whom I did not see at the various parties. I hope all of you had a wonderful holiday. But for those of you that I did not see, I was wondering where you were and what you were doing. Really wondering what you were doing. Possibly planning something bad for us?

I have been doing a lot of thinking between eating, drinking, visiting, and all those other holiday tasks.
My mind keeps coming back to DB4 voting for himself back on P.18 and not getting enough votes to hang. I asked him to explain this back on P.22 and never got a response. I even asked again on P.23. Hard to image the scum not jumping on the chance to hang a townie when only 1 vote was needed, and it's hard for me to accept that all the scum had already voted for one person at that point. And when DB4 had 9 votes, all the other votes were only 1 each. I know how this is going to be accepted by the mafia. And if I'm right on the target, I will get a bunch of votes for myself.

Sorry. DB4. I thought you were good but your lack of response has convinced me you had really pulled the wool over my eyes.
Vote DB4Christ

This is exactly the logic I used before... until I see a better reason out there to vote for someone else then I'm sticking to my DB4 vote.

[King Edward 3rd]

I am a townie with a pretty big role, although I don't have a clue as to how to use it for good yet. I don't mind claiming but I will be out of the game on the next day if I do. If I get to -3 I will claim. Not sure I am much help to the town any way. I have no clue as to who is what.

If your a townie with a big role why haven't you ask cow king how to use it. I think your just trying to save your neck that's why most of your posts has been nothing to do with the game. For those reasons Iunvote & vote Check

[Killuminati19]

First, I want to say Happy New Year to all my townies whom I did not see at the various parties. I hope all of you had a wonderful holiday. But for those of you that I did not see, I was wondering where you were and what you were doing. Really wondering what you were doing. Possibly planning something bad for us?

I have been doing a lot of thinking between eating, drinking, visiting, and all those other holiday tasks.
My mind keeps coming back to DB4 voting for himself back on P.18 and not getting enough votes to hang. I asked him to explain this back on P.22 and never got a response. I even asked again on P.23. Hard to image the scum not jumping on the chance to hang a townie when only 1 vote was needed, and it's hard for me to accept that all the scum had already voted for one person at that point. And when DB4 had 9 votes, all the other votes were only 1 each. I know how this is going to be accepted by the mafia. And if I'm right on the target, I will get a bunch of votes for myself.

Sorry. DB4. I thought you were good but your lack of response has convinced me you had really pulled the wool over my eyes.
Vote DB4Christ

This is exactly the logic I used before... until I see a better reason out there to vote for someone else then I'm sticking to my DB4 vote.

But he did respond.

[mtamburini]

Im glad the discussion has picked up, I was one of the first people to vote for M8 and calling him out on his filler talk. Once he said he was a powerful role I backed off cause why would we want to ever lynch someone who says they are a power role? I dont like the fact that people are using the same argument I was for voting him, however I like King Edwards way of looking at. He could be just saying that to skate by without getting lynch and he could ask the mod how to use it. I will not vote yet as I think there may be better lynches out there, but GMEOY M8

[SiriusCowKing]

Day 2 vote count:
archer3base - DB4Christ, Killuminati19
CHECK-M8 - Gabsensei, King Edward 3rd
DB4Christ - justplay4fun, qbert68, archer3base, Cump Sherman
King Edward 3rd - Elsuper bano


With 15 players in the game and 1 player missing it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in 7 days

[archer3base]

First, I want to say Happy New Year to all my townies whom I did not see at the various parties. I hope all of you had a wonderful holiday. But for those of you that I did not see, I was wondering where you were and what you were doing. Really wondering what you were doing. Possibly planning something bad for us?

I have been doing a lot of thinking between eating, drinking, visiting, and all those other holiday tasks.
My mind keeps coming back to DB4 voting for himself back on P.18 and not getting enough votes to hang. I asked him to explain this back on P.22 and never got a response. I even asked again on P.23. Hard to image the scum not jumping on the chance to hang a townie when only 1 vote was needed, and it's hard for me to accept that all the scum had already voted for one person at that point. And when DB4 had 9 votes, all the other votes were only 1 each. I know how this is going to be accepted by the mafia. And if I'm right on the target, I will get a bunch of votes for myself.

Sorry. DB4. I thought you were good but your lack of response has convinced me you had really pulled the wool over my eyes.
Vote DB4Christ

This is exactly the logic I used before... until I see a better reason out there to vote for someone else then I'm sticking to my DB4 vote.

But he did respond.

How does his response change anything?

[Gabsensei]

ok so since you claim being a power role i will let go of my vote so unvote and for the rest right now i dont who i should go for i know i was on db4 case early on and i could go back on him BUT i am not sure it would be a good idea since he did explained himself *sigh* ( take some rhum and coke with some doughnuts ) so now i dont know what to do i am a bit lost :S

PS: out of the game context i will be able to still play but i am getting quite busy irl so i might only be able to come once or two per week so sorry if i am not participating as much as before

[Killuminati19]

First, I want to say Happy New Year to all my townies whom I did not see at the various parties. I hope all of you had a wonderful holiday. But for those of you that I did not see, I was wondering where you were and what you were doing. Really wondering what you were doing. Possibly planning something bad for us?

I have been doing a lot of thinking between eating, drinking, visiting, and all those other holiday tasks.
My mind keeps coming back to DB4 voting for himself back on P.18 and not getting enough votes to hang. I asked him to explain this back on P.22 and never got a response. I even asked again on P.23. Hard to image the scum not jumping on the chance to hang a townie when only 1 vote was needed, and it's hard for me to accept that all the scum had already voted for one person at that point. And when DB4 had 9 votes, all the other votes were only 1 each. I know how this is going to be accepted by the mafia. And if I'm right on the target, I will get a bunch of votes for myself.

Sorry. DB4. I thought you were good but your lack of response has convinced me you had really pulled the wool over my eyes.
Vote DB4Christ

This is exactly the logic I used before... until I see a better reason out there to vote for someone else then I'm sticking to my DB4 vote.

But he did respond.

How does his response change anything?

Hey mtam, here is one of those contradictions you blasted me for.

[Cump Sherman]

I have to challenge anyone who says DB4's replay was worth calling a reply. He just wrote words and hoped we'd all forget him again.
I must point out that he voted to hang 5 different people before he put the noose around Ragot's neck.
The only person that came close to voting that many people was Crasp and he was mafia. Fortunately, he is no longer with us.

[SiriusCowKing]

Day 2 vote count:
archer3base - DB4Christ, Killuminati19
CHECK-M8 - King Edward 3rd
DB4Christ - justplay4fun, qbert68, archer3base, Cump Sherman
King Edward 3rd - Elsuper bano


With 15 players in the game and 1 player missing it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in 7 days

[CHECK-M8]

Forgot Check m8 is a newbie too. Unvote
Vote Archer
I would like to hear more from him.

Sure... what would you like to know?

I, for one, would like to know the winning power ball numbers. If you can tell me those I will know for sure you are clean.

[CHECK-M8]

I am a townie with a pretty big role, although I don't have a clue as to how to use it for good yet. I don't mind claiming but I will be out of the game on the next day if I do. If I get to -3 I will claim. Not sure I am much help to the town any way. I have no clue as to who is what.

If your a townie with a big role why haven't you ask cow king how to use it. I think your just trying to save your neck that's why most of your posts has been nothing to do with the game. For those reasons Iunvote & vote Check

lol, Why would you think you would know who or when I have asked someone for info. That is not something I could do in an open chat, nor is it something he could respond to in open chat. More importantly it wouldn't matter if I was mafia or townie, I would still ask for help. Still doesn't mean I can read minds. All it means is there is now 15 left and 14 of them I am less than 100% sure are townies. I was told that I was going to be able to understand more after the first night, but I am more clueless now than I was before.

I am just not that good at this as of yet. If ya wanna set down over a chess board sometime, then I am all for it, but this kind of logical games just haven't clicked for me yet.

[CHECK-M8]

Im glad the discussion has picked up, I was one of the first people to vote for M8 and calling him out on his filler talk. Once he said he was a powerful role I backed off cause why would we want to ever lynch someone who says they are a power role? I dont like the fact that people are using the same argument I was for voting him, however I like King Edwards way of looking at. He could be just saying that to skate by without getting lynch and he could ask the mod how to use it. I will not vote yet as I think there may be better lynches out there, but GMEOY M8

I understand my powers/role, but since I don't know who is who I have no way of knowing if I am doing more harm than good. That is not something a mod can help with. I just have to figure things out before I screw things up. To be perfectly honest I think for the first game I would have rather been mafia, so I could see a little more. Being a townie keeps your hands tied, for the first couple of days any way.

[DB4Christ]

Cump.....your starting to sound more scummy than Archer. Be careful, being so confident in an obvious unsurity....is very telling!

[SiriusCowKing]

Day 2 vote count:
archer3base - DB4Christ, Killuminati19
CHECK-M8 - King Edward 3rd
DB4Christ - justplay4fun, qbert68, archer3base, Cump Sherman
King Edward 3rd - Elsuper bano


With 15 players in the game and 1 player missing it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in 6 days

[King Edward 3rd]

I checked back since the game restarted & there's 7 people who haven't spoke a word. There's only 6 days left so if someone is going to be hung there needs to be a lot people speak up & vote. Should it be done like the 1st day whoever doesn't speak up gets the rope. So until someone comes up with a idea I'm unvoting

[DB4Christ]

I vote Archer claim!! If anyone has a better person, I will listen.

[SiriusCowKing]

What a big day, a single post... I think I'm gonna have to send some PM

Day 2 vote count:
archer3base - DB4Christ, Killuminati19
DB4Christ - justplay4fun, qbert68, archer3base, Cump Sherman
King Edward 3rd - Elsuper bano


With 15 players in the game and 1 player missing it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in 6 days

[jusplay4fun]

I was encouraged to post, so here is my "two cents"

1) I see no reason to change my vote and am not sure what the new posts (since the Christmas break) tell me.
2) Much of what i have read since we have resumed has gone back to the same pattern of making most things more confusing (to me)
3) The following is on P. 40 and is some of the best insights that I have read in this game.

Here is some of my thoughts on this matter. On pg.12 after he got 3votes, TC comes up with a list of suspects & an oversight of the game. I think that was to take the heat off of him. From then on TC suggested who to look at & people followed. When DB got close to be lynched it changed to kill & then when he spoke it changed to Ragot & we all know what happened to him!!!! I think mafia is putting suggestions out there & seeing who will follow so they can lynch by day. further down on pg. 12 Gabsensei calls TC out by saying [ I can see what your doing you know and its working with most of the people but to me your not talking enough] What did he mean by that statement??? 3 posts later Gab. unvotes TC & votes DB. Now on day 2 the 1st vote is made by Gab. with a list of suspects like TC. had. I'm a new player but this looks like a pattern. So if the town wants to be controlled by the mafia so be it. It really doesn't matter to me if you people kill each other off !!!!!!

I posted this about 30 hrs. ago & Gab. still hasn't said what he meant by the statement that's in quotes so for that reason IvoteGabsensei

[jusplay4fun]

I also like what Tuffy posted here and may help some; this is a good summary of some key points:

Pg12 – TC posted his suspicions about Kill but cant really put too much stock into that; this was just his prelim list before many happened.
pg13 - Kill gained several lynch votes. Many of these votes ended up being shifted to Ragot at the end of the day.
pg14 - I noticed Kill acting suspicious and inquired
pg15 - MT catches Kill acting suspicious again
pg32 - Kill really gets scummy here
pg36 - My declaration against Kill
pg36 - DB4 unfavorable to that declaration but voted Kill on pg13??
pg41 - ...and still no help from Kill

--
Kills defense:

pg14 - Why have you been quiet? but ... its page 14 by now!

Alright, newbie here. I kept waiting for someone to post something, anything in this game thread. Then I come to realize that I had been staring at the bottom of page 3 and there are 11 more pages of comments that follow. Good to see the game is well under way. Don't lynch the newbie!

pg33 - When told he' not helping the town.

Yeah, looks like a lot is getting accomplished.

pg36 - When told him he's #1 on my list:

I can assure you, kill should be nowhere near the top of your list. I have helped zilch? Tell me someone who has? We are nowhere closer to finding scum now than when we begun.

He could do better than this IMO; Theres no doubt more Ive missed.


So my lynch list is:
1> Kill
2> Aka

I believe townies are:
1> MT


My eyes are on (and not necessarily in a negative way):
1> archer
2> DB4
3> Gab

DB4, Im not sure what to do w/ you.
Some of your posts really make me think you're town; others point to scum - you're all over the map here.

Aka - on my lynch list for same reasons as Ragot. I understand hes got some RL issues going on so hes just not blowing us off - np really.
So i suggest IF we cannot decide on a lynch tonight - lets hit Aka.
Same as Ragot - if Aka is town; what are we really losing (he's not here playing the townie role anyway)
If hes Mafia ... score another kill for DT


Townies got no night info against the mafia last night - ok.
Maybe we got some townie info though.
WHOEVER we decide to lynch - if a townie has it on good night info we're about to lynch a townie ... plz plz come out and tell us somehow. For doing so, you should then be protected by our guarding roles come N2.


I know a long post but finally ...
A few pages back was talk of SK (Serial Killer) out there. I dont think so.
No kills were performed with anything other than a gun; SK's carry knives.
I do think we got at least 2 Mafia families though ... and the other family was responsible for crasps death - JMO.
No idea what happened to TC really ... i havent spent more energy trying to figure it out because we just have no info.


This was definitely more a complicated game than the last.

[qbert68]

There is a lot of finger pointing going on by everyone and no one knows anything about anyone. There are a couple of people that keep pushing towards lynching of some people which in turn could be shown as a sign of mafia, but It could also mean that they are townies and my have the right choice in who they are wanting to hang. But none of us really know who is who.

I know some of you are pointing fingers at me because I have not talked much, but I assure you that I am not a mafia I am trying my best to learn how this game works and take each persons statements and try to read between the lines and figure out who is who.

I still think that we need more information before we can accuse others of something that they may not be.

the only people that I can see right now that might get might vote is
DB4 - still has my vote because he has been very eager to lynch a lot of people
Kill - Only because he don't say much
Elsuper - Not sure what to think about him
Check-M8 - clue less on what's going on

I am still not sure who is who, so I am still going with my list of people to vote for now

[Gabsensei]

I was encouraged to post, so here is my "two cents"

1) I see no reason to change my vote and am not sure what the new posts (since the Christmas break) tell me.
2) Much of what i have read since we have resumed has gone back to the same pattern of making most things more confusing (to me)
3) The following is on P. 40 and is some of the best insights that I have read in this game.

Here is some of my thoughts on this matter. On pg.12 after he got 3votes, TC comes up with a list of suspects & an oversight of the game. I think that was to take the heat off of him. From then on TC suggested who to look at & people followed. When DB got close to be lynched it changed to kill & then when he spoke it changed to Ragot & we all know what happened to him!!!! I think mafia is putting suggestions out there & seeing who will follow so they can lynch by day. further down on pg. 12 Gabsensei calls TC out by saying [ I can see what your doing you know and its working with most of the people but to me your not talking enough] What did he mean by that statement??? 3 posts later Gab. unvotes TC & votes DB. Now on day 2 the 1st vote is made by Gab. with a list of suspects like TC. had. I'm a new player but this looks like a pattern. So if the town wants to be controlled by the mafia so be it. It really doesn't matter to me if you people kill each other off !!!!!!

I posted this about 30 hrs. ago & Gab. still hasn't said what he meant by the statement that's in quotes so for that reason IvoteGabsensei

in respond to that i tell you my friend i did reply here is the proof on page 39:

Here is some of my thoughts on this matter. On pg.12 after he got 3votes, TC comes up with a list of suspects & an oversight of the game. I think that was to take the heat off of him. From then on TC suggested who to look at & people followed. When DB got close to be lynched it changed to kill & then when he spoke it changed to Ragot & we all know what happened to him!!!! I think mafia is putting suggestions out there & seeing who will follow so they can lynch by day. further down on pg. 12 Gabsensei calls TC out by saying [ I can see what your doing you know and its working with most of the people but to me your not talking enough] What did he mean by that statement??? 3 posts later Gab. unvotes TC & votes DB. Now on day 2 the 1st vote is made by Gab. with a list of suspects like TC. had. I'm a new player but this looks like a pattern. So if the town wants to be controlled by the mafia so be it. It really doesn't matter to me if you people kill each other off !!!!!!

I posted this about 30 hrs. ago & Gab. still hasn't said what he meant by the statement that's in quotes so for that reason IvoteGabsensei

i am sorry for not answering earlier i am working a shit load cause of xmas aand didnt got tthe time to get on before now.

the why i listed my suspicion its because on post before mine there were people asking for list. asking other to share what they tough and its why i did this.

if you think me saying this after people asking for everyone to share what they think make me suspicious i am sorry but i have to tell you i want people to talk and tell us what they are.

i want to kill all the scum but for that we need everyone to participate and say what they think cause i dont want to lynch one of my fellow townie again and for kill he still havent say a thing to make me change my vote so for now i am staying with him.

[SiriusCowKing]

Day 2 vote count:
archer3base - DB4Christ, Killuminati19
DB4Christ - justplay4fun, qbert68, archer3base, Cump Sherman
King Edward 3rd - Elsuper bano


With 15 players in the game and 1 player missing it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in 5 days

If no player got enough vote to get lynched by then, the one with the most votes get killed. Right now that would be DB4Christ.