Minister Masket wrote:kwanton wrote:The Weird One wrote:Ontop of that, assuming that trainers are cult like in their abilities, who could they recruit? Let's look at the games, anime, and whatever other pokemon media you can find, shall we? Let's see, they can't exactly capture other trainers, and the overwhelming norm is that they can't capture pokemon from other trainers. So, going off of that, it's a simple leap of logic that the trainers in this game can only recruit pokemon that aren't belonging to other trainers. Your "non-scum" list is simply a target list for the cult leaders.
That's actually a really good point. We don't know for sure that trainers are recruiters, but it would make a lot of sense. Don't put me on no lists.
I don't want to have to battle for some trainer.
It's funny you should say that. As a trainer (
apparently) I'm planning to catch all those who voted for me as such and force them to fight for their new trainer. Now that's dramatic irony.
Alright, let's do some maths here. (That's math if you're American, and fat).
26 players.
3 Town Trainers (Ash/Misty/Brock) OR 1 Town Trainer (Red) if game is based on Anime or Game respectively. I'm leaning more towards the latter because of how Mandy wrote the opening, and perhaps having three town trainers would be slightly OP.
3 Town Pokemon (Pikachu/Staryu/Geodude) OR just Pikachu.
1 Rival (Gary Oak) - He has to be here. There's always a rival in Pokemon, and it fits Mandy's setup page..
1 Rival Pokemon (Eevee I guess?)
2 Scum (Team Rocket)
1 Scum Pokemon (Meowth)
So if we go down the 'Game' route, that's 7 non-wild roles. I'm gonna toss Giovanni in there to make up the scum numbers which makes 8.
So around 18 Wild Pokemon up for grabs if this is right - and it might not be. This is pure speculating on my part.
So my question now is if Wing's list and this reasoning is accurate, why has he only named 5 or 6 players? Where are the other dozen?
Role power limitation, or something more suspicious? Hmm.
In regards to your game/anime commentary. As far as I know Team Rocket aren't actually in the game - apart from maybe Pokemon Yellow? The focus is on beating the Elite Four and collecting Gym badges etc. Calling it Indigo league is a reference to the anime as well, now if it was called Pokemon Red Mafia then we would be looking at the game characters rather than the anime characters.
The focus is on defeating Team Rocket for all the pro-town characters, now there may be a case of dual WCs, i.e survive, win the league but the main overall aim for all is to defeat Team Rocket who are the enemies.
I would hazard a guess that we are facing Jessie, James and their starter pokemon Koffing and Ekans and then also Meowth who isn't really an owned pokemon and likely his own entity. Now if they can also recruit/catch wild pokemon on top of that then that would make them pretty seriously overpowered but that is something we as town need to be concerned about.
That is why it is imperative we continue to look up for slip ups. Kwan made a great catch earlier but Skittles! has justifiably saved himself from his initial mistake.
Also, just because someone is mentioned in an opening scene, does not guarantee they are a playable character, many mods have used NPCs in staging scenes and there is always so much you can read into a scene with the rest often being moderator 'flair.'
The posters I find most suspicious from their actions so far are Exile, Dakky and DoomYoshi. Exile however as per above from missing his win condition, I think is worth a pass for now as that's pretty unfortunate. Also, I don't think this clears him like some of the other posters have insinuated, though it does give him a free pass for now, it just simply means his end-goal wasn't fully confirmed to him. Mandy is more careful than this.
dakky21 wrote:TimWoodbury wrote:didnt quote i paraphrased nut like i said i commited suacide hope yallnhappy least yall know moe then yah woulda had u just killed me
For some reason I believe you... I may be drunk now but my meta on you says you're telling the truth. I can be wrong but... but... but... you scream to me as a town. Or a wild pokemon. Or whatever.
I'm still with mitch and I don't intend to change the vote soon.
This is the danger of drunk posting, you can slip up if not careful. You're basically saying here that you believe him but you don't really know if true or not. He pretty much wrote out his role PM and his win condition so if you were on the side against team rocket you should have known instantly if it was similar to yours or not, rather than choosing to believe him at that particular instance.
dakky21 wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Anarks posts contain something that he can only know as town.
I'm wondering how do YOU know it is town vs. scum?
Maybe he saw the part of his win condition that told him that the goal was to ensure that a certain group of villains do not win. Now even if there is a survivor element to the win condition too I still call this a pro-town win condition. The fact that you question this suggests to me that you do not know it is town vs scum ergo are not on the side of the town.
Final point on Dakky is the below. Now I haven't played with a lot of people in this game as it has been a good few years since my last mafia game on the site but I also find metagame commentary very useful. Like for instance when people were commenting on Spurgistan's lack of activity and declaring it questionable, I know to ignore it as Spurgistan is always inactive as f*ck and thus he had to be replaced. Same with Kwanton voting himself and Fircoal spamming + fooling around, Nark getting into a slanging match etc. this is pretty standard behaviour.
Not having played with Dakky before (apologies if I actually have years back) I found this comment pretty below interesting. Unusual behaviour not sticking himself out and expressing too many opinions. Now I know he got in his 'beef' with Tim at the beginning and rightly so as Tim fucked up. Now his focus is just on madmitch who I agree has come across as scummy in his behaviour and would potentially make a decent day 1 lynch but is this just a case of targeting the easy lynch rather than getting stuck in?
BuJaber wrote:Dakky - Healthy level of skepticism he's showing, but based on previous experiences, less talking, less sticking his neck out with his opinions, less voting activity in general. Maybe it's just the size of the game, which is overwhelming I admit, but worth noting.
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