[Official] HP Mafia - MVP: Aage - Archive

[mtamburini]

By all means, you can choose to answer whatever you would like. At this point every post that isn't an answer from you to any of the specific questions is an active avoidance of them.

I'll leave it up to the others to decide if they have additional questions or don't think my questions are valid. You asked for what I wanted clarified and I have provided it. I can't unvote you if I think you are the best target for a lynch.

I think I have defended my self well by showing that you did not even think of how your questions are relevant in determining my allignment, just spewing questions in list format to make yourself look towny when the questions themself FOR EXAMPLE

The third question

3)Assuming 2 is not, you noted you have a killing power at night, is it a one shot deal.

Assuming that I have kp at night, how is the amount of KP that I have relevant to determine my allignment? You are just fishing for a role claim not trying to determine my allignment.

[degaston]

I would seriously rather lynch inactive then mtamb

Then why didn't you vote for one?

I had a vote on Pershy for a while, but some seem to think it was a "wasted" vote.
I think Mtam dug this hole for himself, and needs to try to dig himself out, but it just seems like he wants to dig deeper.

[got tonkaed]

To be fair I think you are just fishing for reasons to get out of the question. The truth is a lot of the trouble you got yourself in was from the nature of a soft claim that was unsolicited. The fact that you have been asked earlier in the thread for more information about it and you didn't choose to read it or provide it, was suspicious. I brought it up because it is unresolved. I am fine with you explaining more about why you did what you did without giving a hard piece of information that you feel like compromises you, but you feel like it is easier to say nothing or claim the questions aren't invalid.

I feel they are and you are at L4 if i am not mistaken. Like i mentioned in the prior post, others can determine how valid they feel they are.

[strike wolf]

Hes at L-3

[mtamburini]

I would seriously rather lynch inactive then mtamb

Then why didn't you vote for one?

I had a vote on Pershy for a while, but some seem to think it was a "wasted" vote.
I think Mtam dug this hole for himself, and needs to try to dig himself out, but it just seems like he wants to dig deeper.

LOL answer my question or did you skim over it for convenience?

Show me this hole

[mtamburini]

To be fair I think you are just fishing for reasons to get out of the question. The truth is a lot of the trouble you got yourself in was from the nature of a soft claim that was unsolicited. The fact that you have been asked earlier in the thread for more information about it and you didn't choose to read it or provide it, was suspicious. I brought it up because it is unresolved. I am fine with you explaining more about why you did what you did without giving a hard piece of information that you feel like compromises you, but you feel like it is easier to say nothing or claim the questions aren't invalid.

I feel they are and you are at L4 if i am not mistaken. Like i mentioned in the prior post, others can determine how valid they feel they are.

So this post you just wrote another waste of space? My questions towards you are to determine what frame of mind you are coming from, and there is none. You are just "trying to get town information" without actually have a reason behind any of the questions to help determine my allignment.

This is a scum agenda. I already said I will answer them if you could just explain them, apparently DEG cant explain why these "reasonable" questions are reasonable either

[HotShot53]

*I got prodded in this and my other game, so here's a post saying I'm still around... but so many pages were written over the last couple days I don't have time to read them all on my lunch break and will have to finish catching up tonight*

[mtamburini]

*I got prodded in this and my other game, so here's a post saying I'm still around... but so many pages were written over the last couple days I don't have time to read them all on my lunch break and will have to finish catching up tonight*

Thats unreasonable hotshot you might get lynched for it

[got tonkaed]

I feel like thus far I have shown myself to be pretty town aligned.

Essentially your game has gone like this - early on you state two players are going to be lynched today. You then make up some non-case which gets called out and is promptly dropped. You never explain the non-case further, and just expect everyone to forget about it. You go back to the 2nd person who was on your list, and claim that one way or the other they will die tonight, which is a great way to ensure they don't get lynched playing as third party survivor day 1. You then offer up information that would read town for no reason at all and under no pressure to do so. You primarily disappear for a bunch of the thread only to get into a few pieces of bickering and to bandwagon a case against sempai that was literally ridiculous.

We actually have not had a ton of content for all of the pages that have been involved. You don't actually defend yourself or if you are defending yourself it is hinged on the fact that by accusing you everyone will forget they think i am town. I am of the opinion that for some weird reason in a large game you fake claimed and possibly set something up for Storr as well.

As an aside, I hope strike will approve of my stubborness here. Mtam, you are the scummiest person of day 1.

[mtamburini]

I feel like thus far I have shown myself to be pretty town aligned.

Essentially your game has gone like this - early on you state two players are going to be lynched today. You then make up some non-case which gets called out and is promptly dropped. You never explain the non-case further, and just expect everyone to forget about it. You go back to the 2nd person who was on your list, and claim that one way or the other they will die tonight, which is a great way to ensure they don't get lynched playing as third party survivor day 1. You then offer up information that would read town for no reason at all and under no pressure to do so. You primarily disappear for a bunch of the thread only to get into a few pieces of bickering and to bandwagon a case against sempai that was literally ridiculous.

We actually have not had a ton of content for all of the pages that have been involved. You don't actually defend yourself or if you are defending yourself it is hinged on the fact that by accusing you everyone will forget they think i am town. I am of the opinion that for some weird reason in a large game you fake claimed and possibly set something up for Storr as well.

As an aside, I hope strike will approve of my stubborness here. Mtam, you are the scummiest person of day 1.

So because people have called you town you cannot explain the reason why you asked me those questions?

[mtamburini]

@got What do you think of the people who are voting for me and their reasons? Pretty towny right?

[degaston]

LOL answer my question or did you skim over it for convenience?

You mean this one?:

Explain how you think EVERY question is reasonable, and what you would look to gain from it

Maybe you can first explain how you think this question is reasonable, and what you would look to gain from it? (See, two can play at that game!) If everyone has to justify every question, then this game goes nowhere. I think it is up to you to show why you think tonka's questions are unreasonable.

Show me this hole

You mean this one right here:

Hes at L-3

[mtamburini]

LOL answer my question or did you skim over it for convenience?

You mean this one?:

Explain how you think EVERY question is reasonable, and what you would look to gain from it

Maybe you can first explain how you think this question is reasonable, and what you would look to gain from it? (See, two can play at that game!) If everyone has to justify every question, then this game goes nowhere. I think it is up to you to show why you think tonka's questions are unreasonable.

Show me this hole

You mean this one right here:

Hes at L-3

Skimming again? Already explained how #3 is not relevant.

Care to go deeper? Or just bury yourself more?

[got tonkaed]

I think Mtam it is pretty clear you just don't to defend yourself by doing anything other than sleight of hand.

Acting like the fact that you have a bandwagon on you means we have to stop and pressure every single person on it is kind of silly in its own charming way. The best part about a vote record is that it stays and that we can look at it going forward.

You remain the person who i think is the most scummy and you have the questions that I sought clarification on.

[mtamburini]

If everyone has to justify every question, then this game goes nowhere.

This is how you determine whether or not someone is trying to figure out allignment or just has an agenda, do you even know how to play the game?

[mtamburini]

With me having to leave in a couple hours, I have not read through the thread. Why? Because looking at the accusations against me and the inability for an explanation of why someone thinks the questions brought forward are relevant (by two different people I might add) and not getting a single explanation from either of them has been good enough for me today.

In a big flavour game like this one, scum desperately need to know what roles they are up against so getting as many people to claim as possible helps them defer a strategy to win the game.

[mtamburini]

Im also looking at the votes and Im PRETTY sure I have never voted for senpai so where is this BW that you speak of?

[mtamburini]

Now that means there is only 1 relevant question got. I think you need to restock your question list as its expired.

[mtamburini]

How about you explain your point of view on the dude first, and I'll see if I can agree or not to it.
You didn't say anything about him except either him or Storr gets lynched today... I'm not gonna make your case for you.

His interactions about storr have been weird as f*ck, I would out him under the accusation of having too much information defending a townie or soft defending his partner. Regardless of storrzerg alignment I think he's scum and could be with storr, I'm more inined inclined to believe they are not together but this really has been one of the worst openers from storr I have ever seen and the defence of storr from him is not warranted as I'm pretty sure they have no history together.

Ohai look what I found...

[degaston]

If everyone has to justify every question, then this game goes nowhere.

This is how you determine whether or not someone is trying to figure out allignment or just has an agenda, do you even know how to play the game?

Skimming again? Did you not see my response to aage? Okay, one more time, just for you:
I HAVE ONLY PLAYED ONE GAME BEFORE!
And in case you skimmed over my other posts as well, I had repeatedly said that I was not in favor of lynching you, (even though I was attacked for that position) but now...

[mtamburini]

If everyone has to justify every question, then this game goes nowhere.

This is how you determine whether or not someone is trying to figure out allignment or just has an agenda, do you even know how to play the game?

Skimming again? Did you not see my response to aage? Okay, one more time, just for you:
I HAVE ONLY PLAYED ONE GAME BEFORE!
And in case you skimmed over my other posts as well, I had repeatedly said that I was not in favor of lynching you, (even though I was attacked for that position) but now...

If you are not in favor of lynching someone, you dont vote for them. Basic common knowledge

[mtamburini]

Still cant explain the questions can you?

[degaston]

If everyone has to justify every question, then this game goes nowhere.

This is how you determine whether or not someone is trying to figure out allignment or just has an agenda, do you even know how to play the game?

Skimming again? Did you not see my response to aage? Okay, one more time, just for you:
I HAVE ONLY PLAYED ONE GAME BEFORE!
And in case you skimmed over my other posts as well, I had repeatedly said that I was not in favor of lynching you, (even though I was attacked for that position) but now...

If you are not in favor of lynching someone, you dont vote for them. Basic common knowledge

Okay - now I'm in favor of lynching you - happy?

[mtamburini]

If everyone has to justify every question, then this game goes nowhere.

This is how you determine whether or not someone is trying to figure out allignment or just has an agenda, do you even know how to play the game?

Skimming again? Did you not see my response to aage? Okay, one more time, just for you:
I HAVE ONLY PLAYED ONE GAME BEFORE!
And in case you skimmed over my other posts as well, I had repeatedly said that I was not in favor of lynching you, (even though I was attacked for that position) but now...

I didnt ask you how many games youve played, I asked you do you even know how to play the game?

Someone can play 100 games and still not know how to play.

[got tonkaed]

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I could get behind a senpai lynch if mine doesnt go through``

You basically are cool with chilling on the bandwagon that Storr and Streaker create. You then checked out of the thread. So if you want to hide behind saying that you never voted him cool.
But in reality if you go back to those pages where that whole thing starts up, you are involved in it.

Why is it that you can't explain the Raigan case or the soft claim? Why does it have to be an alignment question? If you can't answer the questions maybe you fake claimed like i think you did and we lynch all liars?