[Official]Adventure time mafia:MAFIA WIN!

[madmitch]

Jake where were you

[TimWoodbury]

i think mitch was looking in the right direction vote wingcommander

[*Pixar*]

I totally messed up my night action dammit sorry town, but yeah wing is #1 on my suspect list.

[the white rose]

Pixar, is that a soft claim for bodyguard?

sorry guys, seems i got it wrong with streaker, but he did make a big mistake coming off dakky so quickly.

without reading back, Pixar's claim seems iffy, why would you want to claim bodyguard?

wing remains suspicious, surely he or tim must be scum, but probably not both.

so initial thoughts from me wing and pixar, but when i get some time i will reread before voting

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

i think mitch was looking in the right direction vote wingcommander

Hold on TWR I respect your protection of Tim that I cannot let you hammer him.I have been put in a bad posit ion and I honestly do not know who is scum, but TIM and Kratos did come after me and Streaker did not,and you got to admit Tims play has been weirder than usual , and come on who loses their character, s0 all I can do is UNVOTE VOTE TIM I hope I made the right choice ,

@Tim - As I've said multiple time before. Build a case. This is not a case.

@Hotshot - Why did you avoid voting Dakky on D1 and instead start a case on Mitch? Following slight accusation why did you go AWOL?

@All - Am I right in thinking that Mitch's character is the same as Dakky's fake claim? This could mean mafia dont have fakeclaims.

Below we have Streaker's last reads, which we can now read from a town perspective:

I am the Slime Princess. Vanilla Townie.

Tomorrow you lynch either Tim or ptlowe. Rose as backup. These are my top 3 scum, remember that.

Also please see how Tim isn't even bothering defending himself, let alone giving his reads for town to use. Can't believe there aren't more of you seeing this, especially you mitch.
Make the right decision bro. Look back, and consider WHY you are voting me. Do you even have a case on me, or are you just wagoning the others? You are the town cop, you should be leading not following.

Anyway, I won't post anymore until tomorrow, you have my scum list, here is my town read:

-Ragian town
-mitch town

Beware of wing, his play is inconsistent of a good town play. Indecisive for him, I noted it at the start of the day, but now again when he was considering pushing Kratos instead of Tim.

Streaker believed mafia are PTlowe and Tim. I agree with him and think we should apply pressure to them.

Below is the only time PT ever gave reads, something he has actively avoided:

If I had posted yesterday, I would have been pretty hard on trying to lynch TWR. A couple of posts just dont make sense, I felt pretty good about WIng as well.

Reads

Sausage - Just jumping on the bandwagon with votes. Ive seen him do this before and it appeared to be scummy at the time then as well.

Wing - Tracking down scum like he normally does. May not always be right but working hard.

Steaker.....before today I would have sided with you. I now believe Mitch(god help me) on TWR and if that is true you are definately scum. Also, Tim had a similar type reaction to one I have had in another game. I believe him...No excuse for game play as its piss poor but I believe him. I think hes town and your mafia. If you flip town then TWR is mafia simple as that. If TWR flips mafia then obviously so is mitch, but right now I think you got Win on your side and your mafia.

Mitch....I think mitch is playing the best game to date. Hes paying attention and being responsive and making some since.

Tim......you need to get the book Mafia for Dummies and stop doing drugs before you play.

TWR...I only think your town because of Mitch. I have a few posts which are below which make me think your mafia. However, my gut is on streaker right now and I cant shake it.

Ragain...Strongest town read.

Pixar....no idea

CYAN...would be willing to lynch as his posts have been shit and hes more likely mafia then Tim

Kratos...no idea

Iffy TWR posts just because I dug them up yesterday, looks like I will be working on the posts I think streaker is leaning mafia on.


I really didnt like the going back and forth with IB and then IB being killed in the night. TWR was yesterday my highest suspect. However streakers attack on Tim leaves me to believe streaker is mafia. He did the same to me in another game and I cant get away from my gut. I feel like he overplayed his hand on Tim

warning to butterfly:
there was once a scum called butterfly
who said the white rose must die
so the poor chap lost his crown
but then the mod flipped him town
so butterfly was hung out to dry

hmmm, Up until now my votes have been rather flippant to see how others would react to them.

I found it interesting that after my vote and poem on ib, in response to his vote on me.....something rather odd happened, and that is mitch immediately jumped on my case accusing me of finding ib scummy simply because of my vote and poem.

Now I have to wonder why he would do that? would a townie defend someone who could well turn out to be scum? unlikely....yet it seems that mitch is allying with ib so one might think that they are of the same allegiance. If they are then they must be a scum pair...why else would mitch be so keen to defend ib's honour?

Once i explained that my poem and vote was pretty much a joke, and i had already unvoted, he immediately released me from suspicion.

So I now have a great suspicion against mitch and also ib, though i except that ib has done nothing to be suspicious of.

If mitch is lynched, and my suspicions are proved correct then we get 2 scum for the price of one. So I hereby vote mitch, this i can confirm is my first non-joke vote.

This is a good reason why mitch should have investigate TWR. I believe mitch on being cop...Mafia Roleblocker(dakky) is dead and I doubt there is another one so I am assuming TWR is a good guy.

vote streaker

PTlowe's reads on Streaker, Tim and Cyan never made any sense. Cyan more likely to be scum than Tim? Based on what. That sounds like deflection to me. No actual read on Tim, so how can PT say he is town.

His read on Streaker was based on the attack on TWR, which PT agrees makes sense in his first line. It is clear now that it was a read designed to agree with White Rose and create a distraction lynch.

Now we also know that PT was absent D1. He is a decent player and wouldnt have let his scumbuddy be lynched without any attempt to distract from the Dakky lynch. The Dakky lynch was too easy, it is very rare not to have multiple cases D1 especially if one of them turns out to be mafia.

Vote PTLowe

I'm sorry that it took Streakers flip for me to know that Streaker wasnt twisting things. I shouldnt have switched vote.

[TimWoodbury]

i think mitch was looking in the right direction vote wingcommander

Hold on TWR I respect your protection of Tim that I cannot let you hammer him.I have been put in a bad posit ion and I honestly do not know who is scum, but TIM and Kratos did come after me and Streaker did not,and you got to admit Tims play has been weirder than usual , and come on who loses their character, s0 all I can do is UNVOTE VOTE TIM I hope I made the right choice ,

@Tim - As I've said multiple time before. Build a case. This is not a case.

@Hotshot - Why did you avoid voting Dakky on D1 and instead start a case on Mitch? Following slight accusation why did you go AWOL?

@All - Am I right in thinking that Mitch's character is the same as Dakky's fake claim? This could mean mafia dont have fakeclaims.

Below we have Streaker's last reads, which we can now read from a town perspective:

I am the Slime Princess. Vanilla Townie.

Tomorrow you lynch either Tim or ptlowe. Rose as backup. These are my top 3 scum, remember that.

Also please see how Tim isn't even bothering defending himself, let alone giving his reads for town to use. Can't believe there aren't more of you seeing this, especially you mitch.
Make the right decision bro. Look back, and consider WHY you are voting me. Do you even have a case on me, or are you just wagoning the others? You are the town cop, you should be leading not following.

Anyway, I won't post anymore until tomorrow, you have my scum list, here is my town read:

-Ragian town
-mitch town

Beware of wing, his play is inconsistent of a good town play. Indecisive for him, I noted it at the start of the day, but now again when he was considering pushing Kratos instead of Tim.

Streaker believed mafia are PTlowe and Tim. I agree with him and think we should apply pressure to them.

Below is the only time PT ever gave reads, something he has actively avoided:

If I had posted yesterday, I would have been pretty hard on trying to lynch TWR. A couple of posts just dont make sense, I felt pretty good about WIng as well.

Reads

Sausage - Just jumping on the bandwagon with votes. Ive seen him do this before and it appeared to be scummy at the time then as well.

Wing - Tracking down scum like he normally does. May not always be right but working hard.

Steaker.....before today I would have sided with you. I now believe Mitch(god help me) on TWR and if that is true you are definately scum. Also, Tim had a similar type reaction to one I have had in another game. I believe him...No excuse for game play as its piss poor but I believe him. I think hes town and your mafia. If you flip town then TWR is mafia simple as that. If TWR flips mafia then obviously so is mitch, but right now I think you got Win on your side and your mafia.

Mitch....I think mitch is playing the best game to date. Hes paying attention and being responsive and making some since.

Tim......you need to get the book Mafia for Dummies and stop doing drugs before you play.

TWR...I only think your town because of Mitch. I have a few posts which are below which make me think your mafia. However, my gut is on streaker right now and I cant shake it.

Ragain...Strongest town read.

Pixar....no idea

CYAN...would be willing to lynch as his posts have been shit and hes more likely mafia then Tim

Kratos...no idea

Iffy TWR posts just because I dug them up yesterday, looks like I will be working on the posts I think streaker is leaning mafia on.


I really didnt like the going back and forth with IB and then IB being killed in the night. TWR was yesterday my highest suspect. However streakers attack on Tim leaves me to believe streaker is mafia. He did the same to me in another game and I cant get away from my gut. I feel like he overplayed his hand on Tim

warning to butterfly:
there was once a scum called butterfly
who said the white rose must die
so the poor chap lost his crown
but then the mod flipped him town
so butterfly was hung out to dry

hmmm, Up until now my votes have been rather flippant to see how others would react to them.

I found it interesting that after my vote and poem on ib, in response to his vote on me.....something rather odd happened, and that is mitch immediately jumped on my case accusing me of finding ib scummy simply because of my vote and poem.

Now I have to wonder why he would do that? would a townie defend someone who could well turn out to be scum? unlikely....yet it seems that mitch is allying with ib so one might think that they are of the same allegiance. If they are then they must be a scum pair...why else would mitch be so keen to defend ib's honour?

Once i explained that my poem and vote was pretty much a joke, and i had already unvoted, he immediately released me from suspicion.

So I now have a great suspicion against mitch and also ib, though i except that ib has done nothing to be suspicious of.

If mitch is lynched, and my suspicions are proved correct then we get 2 scum for the price of one. So I hereby vote mitch, this i can confirm is my first non-joke vote.

This is a good reason why mitch should have investigate TWR. I believe mitch on being cop...Mafia Roleblocker(dakky) is dead and I doubt there is another one so I am assuming TWR is a good guy.

vote streaker

PTlowe's reads on Streaker, Tim and Cyan never made any sense. Cyan more likely to be scum than Tim? Based on what. That sounds like deflection to me. No actual read on Tim, so how can PT say he is town.

His read on Streaker was based on the attack on TWR, which PT agrees makes sense in his first line. It is clear now that it was a read designed to agree with White Rose and create a distraction lynch.

Now we also know that PT was absent D1. He is a decent player and wouldnt have let his scumbuddy be lynched without any attempt to distract from the Dakky lynch. The Dakky lynch was too easy, it is very rare not to have multiple cases D1 especially if one of them turns out to be mafia.

Vote PTLowe

I'm sorry that it took Streakers flip for me to know that Streaker wasnt twisting things. I shouldnt have switched vote.

so the 1 non crazy one who agreed with me and twr about youn happens to get kileld at night is not a case??? heck kill the 1 guy who would balive me and twwr so noone else bealives us thats not a case... idk what is then seems open and shut

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

so the 1 non crazy one who agreed with me and twr about youn happens to get kileld at night is not a case??? heck kill the 1 guy who would balive me and twwr so noone else bealives us thats not a case... idk what is then seems open and shut

Tim, I agree that Mitch's opinions on the game are incredibly important to guide us. However, for this to be a case you would have to find some evidence in his posts that he believed me to be mafia. I've looked, there isnt any.

Hence there is no case for me to answer, and i shall ignore further posts from you that add nothing to the discussion.

[ptlowe]

Vote Wing

Hammer on streaker did it for me. TWR made a good point on you and Im following his lead this game as I think his reads are good. Shame are streaker for budding up with you thats what got me suspicious.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Hit no. 2

My response is similar to what I said to Tim.

I agree that White Rose holds the power in this game, and it is on him to lead us to victory. However, I thought it wise to allow him to reread and post his thoughts before presupposing his thoughts.

Honestly, you two could have made this a little harder.

[ptlowe]

Hit no. 2

My response is similar to what I said to Tim.

I agree that White Rose holds the power in this game, and it is on him to lead us to victory. However, I thought it wise to allow him to reread and post his thoughts before presupposing his thoughts.

Honestly, you two could have made this a little harder.

According to you...really depends on what everyone else thinks and im betting they will see you as scum just because of your scummy play. Wing the mafia hammer.

[the white rose]

@wing, you claimed that i was scum and tim the bus driver, which is why mitch got an innocent result on me, and yet when i threatened to hammer tim to break a potential stalemate you switched your vote and hammered streaker whom you had no suspicions about.....i need a convincing reason not lynch you today

[Endgame422]

Official Vote Count
Wing(2)TimWoodbury,ptlowe
Ptlowe(1)Wing
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

[Ragian]

Sobering up after festival. Will post later.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@wing, you claimed that i was scum and tim the bus driver, which is why mitch got an innocent result on me, and yet when i threatened to hammer tim to break a potential stalemate you switched your vote and hammered streaker whom you had no suspicions about.....i need a convincing reason not lynch you today

White Rose - You cannot be scum until there is evidence of investigation tampering. As much as I objected to your play, you must be town. For background here, I have posted a link to the moment I vocally voted my sole mafia partner, Streaker, in EoTW mafia on D1. That move kept me above reproach as confirmed town for four days until Aage flavour broke the game. I think you can see why both Streaker and I would find your D1 hammer suspicious.

viewtopic.php?f=610&t=212836&start=500#p4688580

Now the reason why I switched is because of the reasons I gave. I wanted to know Streakers alignement in order to understand his reads. Ever since silver bullet mafia in which Streaker convinced me he was town D1, and subsequently outplayed me I havent been abe to trust him. I was off the strong belief yesterday that Tim and Kratos were the scum pair, however my doubt about Streaker nibbled me the longer it went on and led to my actions.

viewtopic.php?f=610&t=213610

PT - Now thats all covered, can we look at your case again. Your argument is that I switched from Tim to Streaker in order to hammer town. Now if i was mafia, then this would imply that Tim was also mafia and I was saving him from lynch. Now lets look at that. Tim was only at L-1 because of the case I built and helped Streaker push. Its pretty clear I'm not working with Tim, so the argument of my hammer doesnt make logical sense.

[the white rose]

given the fact that streaker suspected pt lowe, i am inclined to believe him.

wing's reasoning does make sense and pt lowe being an experienced player has certainly kept a low profile in this game (no pun intended).

i would have expected much more help from him.

sigh, i may be wrong and am certainly open to be persuaded otherwise.

i am not actually voting at this stage as a double vote here is very powerful and i want to guage reactions to my comments without puttung ptlowe in danger of a quick lynch.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Ragian, WhatSausage, Thoughts on myself or PT?

Also Hotshot and Soldier4Christ, have you had a chance to read through. Thoughts?

[TimWoodbury]

@Wing im almsot convinced that the previous days batte was between town-town so with that im really close to being on the town side on you rather the skum side

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@Wing im almsot convinced that the previous days batte was between town-town so with that im really close to being on the town side on you rather the skum side

Tim.... Streaker flipped town. So either you are mafia, in which case it was mafia-town, or you are town in which case it was town-town.... I kind of assumed that regardless of the truth you would lean to the latter....

[TimWoodbury]

@Wing im almsot convinced that the previous days batte was between town-town so with that im really close to being on the town side on you rather the skum side

Tim.... Streaker flipped town. So either you are mafia, in which case it was mafia-town, or you are town in which case it was town-town.... I kind of assumed that regardless of the truth you would lean to the latter....

i was meaning when i was going after you wing not the streaker thang obvously streaker flipped town

[HotShot53]

@Hotshot - Why did you avoid voting Dakky on D1 and instead start a case on Mitch? Following slight accusation why did you go AWOL?

Unfortunately Kratos didn't leave me notes as to why he did what he did... so I don't really know why.

I've read half of the game so far, hopefully will finish catching up tonight so I can post something more helpful.

[ptlowe]

@wing, you claimed that i was scum and tim the bus driver, which is why mitch got an innocent result on me, and yet when i threatened to hammer tim to break a potential stalemate you switched your vote and hammered streaker whom you had no suspicions about.....i need a convincing reason not lynch you today

White Rose - You cannot be scum until there is evidence of investigation tampering. As much as I objected to your play, you must be town. For background here, I have posted a link to the moment I vocally voted my sole mafia partner, Streaker, in EoTW mafia on D1. That move kept me above reproach as confirmed town for four days until Aage flavour broke the game. I think you can see why both Streaker and I would find your D1 hammer suspicious.

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 0#p4688580

Now the reason why I switched is because of the reasons I gave. I wanted to know Streakers alignement in order to understand his reads. Ever since silver bullet mafia in which Streaker convinced me he was town D1, and subsequently outplayed me I havent been abe to trust him. I was off the strong belief yesterday that Tim and Kratos were the scum pair, however my doubt about Streaker nibbled me the longer it went on and led to my actions.

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 0&t=213610

PT - Now thats all covered, can we look at your case again. Your argument is that I switched from Tim to Streaker in order to hammer town. Now if i was mafia, then this would imply that Tim was also mafia and I was saving him from lynch. Now lets look at that. Tim was only at L-1 because of the case I built and helped Streaker push. Its pretty clear I'm not working with Tim, so the argument of my hammer doesnt make logical sense.

Doesnt change my stance on you. You are mafia case and point. So when and if I die and do flip town people wont be dumb enough to let you live another day. However I imagine TWR will be dead during the night after my death which will give you free reign of the game due to the rest of the players here playing lacky to everyone else.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

PT - who is scum with me?

Why is me switching from voting Tim to Streaker a scum move?

You know how to build an argument, so why are you not doing so?

[the white rose]

I totally messed up my night action dammit sorry town, but yeah wing is #1 on my suspect list.

3 days since this post and no other post from pixar.

pixar please explain this statement

[TimWoodbury]

nice catch yes pix would be great to farther explain it

[ptlowe]

PT - who is scum with me?

Why is me switching from voting Tim to Streaker a scum move?

You know how to build an argument, so why are you not doing so?

Ill make a case tonight. Along with one on my other read.