Lord of the Rings mafia [Town wins]

by **Simon Viavant** on Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:50 pm

I'm willing to trust suspect's powers, so so far Iliad is the one who looks scummiest to me, I'm a bit strapped for time right now, I'll come and write my reasoning later.

by **Iliad** on Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:06 pm

pmchugh wrote:There is a way to prove it someone is sending these whisperings and i say they tell us now and claim their role, as soon as scum use their day kill. With doctors at night we would be virtually unbeatble if the claim came up as true.

And I have more than that agianst you illy, I think I will go back and find some legit reasons to put on paper.

And whats with all the personal diggs at my scumdar, I ain't perfect and don't claim to be. Sure I may go OTT when I get it right but who isn't happy when they do?

@ speisr who do you think is most scummy on that list?

The digs are is that you try to lead town on crusades and control all the votes, funnily enough like scum(must be a coincidence), and yet you get it awfully wrong. And yet you continue to try and lead town on crusades and proclaim your opinion of everyone as though it was gospel. Instead of being humbled, you seem to not learn from your mistakes.

It's a great thing that everyone posts"Yeah Iliad looks scummy. What was that? Why? Uhh..oh shit gotta go now. Cya!"

by **pmchugh** on Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:32 pm

Of course I try to lead the town have you ever seen me play? I always trust myself over others as i know my own alignment and trust in my judgement. I know sometimes I will get it wrong but if I think "Oh no what if I'm worng!" all the time then there is no point in playing. I like to try and catch scum and that is why I play. I back my own corner, who doesn't, and I don't proclaim it as gospel I have admitted being wrong several times in several games before a claim/lynch.

And you say I get it awfully wrong? So i deadline lynched one player and that makes me "awful". :roll:

by **karelpietertje** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:45 am

since I am not so experienced yet, does anybody know what happens when this daykill occurs?
can the mafia just send the mod a PM at any given moment to have somebody killed?

by **pmchugh** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:13 am

karelpietertje wrote:since I am not so experienced yet, does anybody know what happens when this daykill occurs?
can the mafia just send the mod a PM at any given moment to have somebody killed?

Yes.

This game really needs thez to be replaced.

by **spiesr** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:05 am

pmchugh wrote:@ spiesr who do you think is most scummy on that list?

Well, of course thezz looks bad having survived that lynched on him and all and not dropping a claim beforehand which you kinda think he would have done if he was town. Also, he was lynched for a reason, he has had scummlike behavior over the course of the game, even thought with his little activity it is hard to evaluate. Apart from that, none of the people on that list really seem like obvious town players to me. For the most part their actions do have occasional tiches of scumm scent to them. Of course, many of them have low activity making it hard to really analyze them. The way all see it, all of this applies to Falkomagno as well. But, in particular, william18 seems like one of the most scummy of them. On day 2 he quickly, almost blindly hopped on the AA party with only one day left in the day; assuming thezz is scum this may have been his last ditch effort to save his scum mate by pushing AA's vote count past thezz's so that the silly bandwagoners who would follow would vote for AA over thezz as they generally vote for the guy with the most votes. And he has done a couple other things that urkled me moreso than the others but I will have to go back to find them...

by **william18** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:27 pm

spiesr wrote:
pmchugh wrote:@ spiesr who do you think is most scummy on that list?
Well, of course thezz looks bad having survived that lynched on him and all and not dropping a claim beforehand which you kinda think he would have done if he was town. Also, he was lynched for a reason, he has had scummlike behavior over the course of the game, even thought with his little activity it is hard to evaluate. Apart from that, none of the people on that list really seem like obvious town players to me. For the most part their actions do have occasional tiches of scumm scent to them. Of course, many of them have low activity making it hard to really analyze them. The way all see it, all of this applies to Falkomagno as well. But, in particular, william18 seems like one of the most scummy of them. On day 2 he quickly, almost blindly hopped on the AA party with only one day left in the day; assuming thezz is scum this may have been his last ditch effort to save his scum mate by pushing AA's vote count past thezz's so that the silly bandwagoners who would follow would vote for AA over thezz as they generally vote for the guy with the most votes. And he has done a couple other things that urkled me moreso than the others but I will have to go back to find them...

Actually, I voted for AA befoe people jumped on Thez, so you can't really say that I was avoiding voting Thez, since everyone jumped on him, and he was lynched when I was offline.

by **william18** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:31 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Hey suspect, can you give us your character name? I am asking because it might help us determine the validity of your whisperings. For example, if you are pippin and your whisperings come from the orb of sauron, there is a good chance we can't trust them. But, if you are Galadriel and your whisperings come from her mind reading powers, there is a much higher chance that they are true.

I don't want you to reveal your role, just your name.

It's not the orb of sauron, it's called the Palatir or Orthanc, also it is beyond the power of Sauron or any wizard still alive to manipulate it and make it lie or convey false images.

by **william18** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:31 pm

william18 wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:Hey suspect, can you give us your character name? I am asking because it might help us determine the validity of your whisperings. For example, if you are pippin and your whisperings come from the orb of sauron, there is a good chance we can't trust them. But, if you are Galadriel and your whisperings come from her mind reading powers, there is a much higher chance that they are true.

I don't want you to reveal your role, just your name.

It's not the orb of sauron, it's called the Palatir of Orthanc, also it is beyond the power of Sauron or any wizard still alive to manipulate it and make it lie or convey false images.

EBWOP

by **spiesr** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:17 pm

william18 wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:Hey suspect, can you give us your character name? I am asking because it might help us determine the validity of your whisperings. For example, if you are pippin and your whisperings come from the orb of sauron, there is a good chance we can't trust them. But, if you are Galadriel and your whisperings come from her mind reading powers, there is a much higher chance that they are true.
I don't want you to reveal your role, just your name.

It's not the orb of sauron, it's called the Palatir or Orthanc, also it is beyond the power of Sauron or any wizard still alive to manipulate it and make it lie or convey false images.

But does stroop know that?

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:11 pm

william18 wrote:
william18 wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:Hey suspect, can you give us your character name? I am asking because it might help us determine the validity of your whisperings. For example, if you are pippin and your whisperings come from the orb of sauron, there is a good chance we can't trust them. But, if you are Galadriel and your whisperings come from her mind reading powers, there is a much higher chance that they are true.

I don't want you to reveal your role, just your name.

It's not the orb of sauron, it's called the Palatir of Orthanc, also it is beyond the power of Sauron or any wizard still alive to manipulate it and make it lie or convey false images.

EBWOP

I've read all the books and I know the Palantir themselves aren't evil, but the only ones at that time in use were Sauron's and Saruman's. So, technically, pippin was receiving info from Sauron's orb. I just didn't want to get technical in case suspect hadn't read the books. The fact that Suspect is sam kind of ruins my whole idea that his role could supply us with info.

by **Stroop** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:19 pm

Fircoal is replacing Thezzaruz

by **pmchugh** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:34 pm

hi fircoal claim please.

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:08 pm

Fircoal, something tells me you are gonna have one short game unless you have a decent claim.

by **spiesr** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:11 pm

Unless Fircoal is one of the members of the fellowship I would say there is not much he can say to save himself...

by **AceArtemis** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:23 am

spiesr wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:I think that Thezz is one of the bad guys. He was almost lynched at day 1 instead of Gandalf, and in day 2, when we finally achieve that, he is still alive. I don't know if he is unlynchable once or all the game. But If he is scum, as I actually think, how can win the fellowship if we can not lynch him? so, it's probable that he was just saved once. Another fact to consider, is the mod urgency in trying to replace thez at night stage. That leads us to think that thez is a real important role in the game. But with his level of activity, it's hard to be 100% sure of anything.
Well if he is Sauron then I think there are two real possibilities.
1. It was a one shot save.
2. He can't be killed until the ring is destroyed.

I find #1 quite likely, but I am afraid that we'll waste a day trying to lynch fircoal, and give the mafia a free kill. Today, we should look for other scummy characters, and put pressure on them instead of fircoal, though I agree with everyone who says that Fircoal needs to claim. I still have to re-read to see who I find scummy.

by **spiesr** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:30 am

Alright then, if that is the course of action that we are going to take then I will cause discussion by placing my vote on william18.

by **pmchugh** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:45 am

vote fircoal, I want a claim then we can decide what to do.

by **sam_levi_11** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:31 pm

Not much to do or say until Fircoal claims really... Ill leave my vote till then

by **spiesr** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:37 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:Not much to do or say until Fircoal claims really... Ill leave my vote till then

If he claims, so far he hasn't even posted and I wouldn't count on him doing so...

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:53 pm

I said he was scummy yesterday, and I'm sticking with it today. William has been pretty inactive this whole game. When we call him out on it, he posts just enough to get us off his back and then he disappears again. vote william Falko also fits this category but his last post was very outspoken against thez (whom we all believe to be scum) so until we get a claim from fir, I'll stick with william.

by **spiesr** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:25 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Falko also fits this category but his last post was very outspoken against thez (whom we all believe to be scum) so until we get a claim from fir, I'll stick with william.

Of course, speaking out against a person commonly believed to be scum is a pretty easy way for a scum to say something popular without actually revealing anything or contributing much at...

by **pmchugh** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:27 pm

Stroop get fircoal to post here.

by **spiesr** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:27 pm

pmchugh wrote:Stroop get fircoal to post here.

Or modkill him...

by **william18** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:I said he was scummy yesterday, and I'm sticking with it today. William has been pretty inactive this whole game. When we call him out on it, he posts just enough to get us off his back and then he disappears again. vote william Falko also fits this category but his last post was very outspoken against thez (whom we all believe to be scum) so until we get a claim from fir, I'll stick with william.

Im not necessarily inactive, It's not like im not responding.

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