[OFFICIAL] Lion King Mafia - Town Scarred as Mafia Wins!

[Minister Masket]

I don't get you Mandy. The town has a solid line of enquiry here with the Samlen/DJ/DDS route, and here you are abandoning it to pursue Skoff on the very thin argument that she may have had a PR Day 1. One minute you claim she's Simba, the next you vote her. It is madness sir and I implore you to come back to the light, as I can't imagine you are not town yourself based on Day 1's events.

Speaking of holidays (Flores' above post) I'll be off to the States for 2 weeks in a week's time. I honestly can't predict what the internet situation will be like (it's a road-trip across the Rockies) but I expect my contributions will be rather few and far between. =L

[nagerous]

Hey everyone, i am leaving on holidays for a week, so my level of activity will most likely drop, but i stand by my vote and i will make time to check from time to time if any new leads pop up.

Now about the whole "something smell rotten on skoffland" argument, she is on my FOS list, but hey i might be overly conscious and more strict on her because i respect her as a player or might be just because she types in red and that makes everything pops, whatever the reason, she has been shifty, but some ppl are always shifty, therefore i think her actions grants an investigation, not a request for a NK, but i do see where mandy is coming from, when it's hard to gather support on a theory you believe in, there might come a time when gambling with your own life is the only way to exert pressure, but since we are still looking into this herd, no name case, i dont think that time is now.

Guess I will have to get off my ass and provide a VC at some point then

Mandy as designated prod monitor anyone who should be prodded?

[mandalorian2298]

No sir, everyone posted at least once since Day 3 scene.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I don't think we should be putting DJ up on the firing line at this time until we figure out his activity and if it warrants a replacement. He did claim VT and me being the only other one alive, I'm hard pressed to believe the claim for the moment.

wrong, DJ is keeping his shallow activity to the barely acceptable minimum to avoid replacement, so unless the mod expressly says that he is searching a replacement my vote stays where it is, someone who is scarce at day might be oveactive by night, and wrong again, you are not the only 2 claimed VT alive, there is also mitch, but because he is mitch he is untouchable.

Fine, I'll concede with that, only because after I mentioned his posting habit, he came on, replied, and has now voted. I actually forgot mitch claimed because...Well, I've tuned him out. I've just been skimming most of whatever he has said.

Ha! Im stupid you actually spelled it out and I went right over it. Wow! Yeah you should lynch me for that. Excuse the previous question.

As for the herd, there is nothing that has anything to do with a herd that I was given. I was watching that very closely as it caught my attention and sadly there is no way that I can prove against it but look at it from my perspective.

I was curious about the herd statement and even voted against Sam for it until they gave a better assessment of it. I was fighting it and asking about it because I am similar and thought I had pinned them on it. Once they explained their side I was satisfied and I came out to try to clear them only to have them killed anyways. You can chase me the same way but logically why would I have put myself in the same boat when I didnt have to.

THe thing that actually just hit me is I believe there should be 3 animals based on my own thought process based on scenes from the movie and these would be Elephant, Zebra and Giraffe. I thought DDS was a Elephant and that made up the 3 but since I dont anything around a herd and DDS came after me quoting the herd portion and Sam kinda backed off the herd, I will find my questioning of him and why I laid off him, but DDS came kept pushing it.

I dont believe the ostrich claim based on what I have seen and the order of progression so you can lynch me if you wish but at least this is out there for future use cause much like Sam, there is nothing that I can do to prove myself but I have issues believing DDS now.

Vote DDS

Lolwut? On Days 1, after the fact that Sam claimed and everyone switched to Kwan, you were the only one to have kept your vote on Sam, and from there. This post below was on Pg 12, your one and only response, to Pg.17 to where the lynch happened, there was only 1 post.

I was going to give you crap about the BW push on Sam but you make a good point and put me along on it. Sadly for the most part I treat D1 much like Sam's point however I will have to give it to you, there is definitely a positive in seeking out anything and giving it a shot especially to see how people react when they are under pressure. Best way to figure someone out is to put them to the fire sometimes.

Vote Samlen

So onwards to Day 2.

I tend to agree more with Sam's outcome than Flores. A standard game should have quite a bit of VT as it keeps the balance. Im sure that there are VT's and it makes sense they are animals but I have an issue with Sam's claim for the fact that you are saying you are part of a herd but no one else has come up to say they are also your animal so I don't see a herd which makes me wonder if you were tied to kwon in that aspect.

This happens on Pg 18, roughly a few real time days into Days 2. So not only did you not say anything during Days 1 when Sam did make his claim, you make this half assed post and call that his "defense"? On Days 2? And where in the world was your thought process when your activity spiked in Days 2 about my claim? Why do I feel like this is you attempting to deflect the oncoming fire to yourself? Not only that, but there was a slight (I say slight because we were all stuck on Sam still), wagon and you make a VT claim for no other reason other than to claim it. There wasn't exactly a whole lot of pressure for you to claim at that time, nor did I read any indication for a "soft" claim beforehand.

So while I still think you should be replaced because *cough12daysand1post* is pretty bad, and since we're getting nowhere with Skoffin. I'm going to unvote vote DJ.

[mandalorian2298]

I don't get you Mandy. The town has a solid line of enquiry here with the Samlen/DJ/DDS route, and here you are abandoning it to pursue Skoff on the very thin argument that she may have had a PR Day 1. One minute you claim she's Simba, the next you vote her. It is madness sir and I implore you to come back to the light, as I can't imagine you are not town yourself based on Day 1's events.

Speaking of holidays (Flores' above post) I'll be off to the States for 2 weeks in a week's time. I honestly can't predict what the internet situation will be like (it's a road-trip across the Rockies) but I expect my contributions will be rather few and far between. =L

I never claimed she was Simba, that was Pikachion's brain child. Personally, I have no idea why Simba would be any more mute prior to Mufasa's death then, say, Nala (both are equally cubbish).
I actually thought that Skoffin is either Scar or Rafiki (who has no dialogue in the movie until well after Mufasa's death). But, since Skoffin wouldn't claim, even to decrease the chances of Mafia NKing her, I conclude that Scar is who she must be.

My argument that she had a PR is not thin. It is so well founded that it can be expressed mathematically: Skoffin's Day 1 Votes = 0.

People have countered this with saying that such a PR would be too much of a handicap to a Cult Leader, to which I can only respond that for this to be true there need to be enough players in the game who actually pay attention enough to spot a PR and who care enough to demand an explanation it.

As for Skoffin's final explanation, that due to RL reasons she hadn't bothered to vote; all I can say is that, even if we accept the possibility of this happening, for Skoffin to continue playing while demanding that all the clues from her Day 1 be ignored because she didn't care then is a bit much. Had she claimed, it would have been another story, but as it is I think that you all are giving her a free pass and I can't really understand why except for it being easier.

P.S. I'm just kidding about the Rafiki thing, Shenzi, it's totally Scar or Simba.

[Djfireside]

Mandy, did you really just write a long diatribe that mafia should kill me no matter what tonight because either I am scum or because I am Simba the presumably strongest town power role? How does that benefit town? How does that constitute 'good play' on your part? I said I would claim if you could provide a reason besides some outlandish theory that I have a post restriction, I presume by your speech here that you can't come up with a single valid reason so from here I feel compelled to ignore any more nonsense from you about this.
For someone that claims to be the pro-town hero your actions are coming across as anti-town.

For DJ: The thing I find odd about his claim is that he states he received no message about a herd, it strikes me as odd that a scumster would make a claim that actively contradicts two people that have claimed similar roles.
Why would he not just say "yeah I'm part of the herd too" instead of questioning people who claimed the herd message as it conflicted with him? For the moment I'm inclined to believe he's town.

I'm amending my earlier list. Chu is beginning to seem more town, whereas Skittles has dropped down to my scum list.

I agree with both parts of skoffin's post here... claiming because of a theory about a PR that seems unlikely does not make sense, especially since few people seem to agree with the theory. Mandy seems to have a very narrow, but vocal, focus each day... I sure hope he's not a scum trying to lead us around.

And I have been thinking the same about DJ. I have seen games where the mod words the VT PMs differently, and town gets lynched just because their VT PM is different than others... but that's because the mod worded them differently, not because they were scum. His lack of scum hunting and overall scummarining are still suspicious however.

Yeah I know Hotshot, I have been a bit busy with things that the time just hasnt been kind.

I have put up two thoughts that I had to help out town in possibility of who has claimed but at this point there are many who are lurking in the shadows. I think I will write out my own list of chars and try to match up who could fit where and I forgot that I needed to gather my info on Sam. I will do that tonight once Im off work to finish my retort since Im 2 votes shy from not being able to.

[ga7]

Vote Count :

Skoffin (1) Mandy
Dj (5) Flores, Masket, Fircoal, Mitch, DDS
Mandy (1) Pika
DDS (1) Dj

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

[Pikanchion]

The coming revelations must be silenced! Vote: Djfireside

[Skoffin]

I'm going to give my analysis of all players so far, and I suggest everyone else do the same. That way we may be able to see any links between people and any consensus on others.

Chu - He has been a bit quiet, but he has also provided some good input and been assertive on some positions. For the moment I am not suspicious of him.

DJ - He has not been active and his arguments have appeared to be more rambles than actual ideas, while normally I'd suggest this is scummy this does seem to follow his usual play in other games and thus it's not enough to determine he is scum. Claiming a similar role to others but contradicting everyone on one part (the herd message) is a rather ballsy move for scum to make, and I don't see him as a risk taker. I disinclined to think he's scum and that's why I am not voting him.

DDS - He has made some solid posts, been active and assertive on various things; however he's also backed down and gone the opposite of points he has made. First by adding his vote to the Sam case after arguing that Sam was town and then by arguing against Mandy's nonsense on me and then going along with it albeit briefly. But again, he's made some good arguments and been aggressive about them. And this is where I get mixed feelings on him about his playstyle here. If he were a dumb player I would say he's town based on his play here, but I consider him a smart player and thus I think he could go either way.

Flores - Has been after me the whole game, she's just not as aggressive about it as mandy. First she accuses me of being scum for doing the exact same thing that she was - inactivity - (If it's good enough to suspect me, it's good enough to suspect her) then backed off, but still suggested I was 'fishy' for 'something' that she hasn't really named and brings me up on that basis on multiple occasions. Other people she has gone for are mitch and DJ, and the basis seems to be that they are weak players or not active enough. The other reason provided for sticking to these is the VT claims. It seems very much like looking for easy places to make a case that won't look too suspicious if a lynch there is successful. Along with that there is a weird dynamic going on between her and many where they seem to be perpetually agreeing with each other and patting each other on the back about how good they are. I don't recall a time where two townies have boosted each other like this, in my experience it's usually one scum forming a team with a town member and that's why I think one of the two is probably a scumster. For the moment I'm more suspicious of flores. I'm fairly certain that in the next day phase that she and Mandy will come together to push hard for my lynch; is it fair to call someone scummy for something they haven't done yet though? Maybe, but I guarantee it will happen XD

Mitch - ugh

Hotshot - Seemed to be a bit more town at first as he was posting more than his usual and giving stronger opinions, however he seems to have reverted to his known scummy playstyle of laying back in the sidelines and not doing much. He has said something recently but I think he needs to do more before he finds himself back on the scum list.

Pika - Has been very good at looking useful by asking questions and quoting people, however it's very much an illusion for the fact he hasn't done a great deal and actually hasn't given a real opinion on anything. I'm always suspicious of pika

Masket - Has been a bit both ways, sometimes on the fence and sometimes giving ideas. I honestly can never read Masket and think he needs to give more.

Skittles - Hasn't been very active this game yet and so I need to see more from him to make a call on what his alignment could be.

Skoff - Jaded-town hero

Mandy - oh em gee what even. Has been the most aggressive player all game and has put himself as the catalyst for all lynches. If he were scum this puts him in an incredible position where he can push a lynch anyway he wants or direct it away from teammates, and most townies are unlikely to fight him on it lest they become his next target. For the moment he's dedicated himself to this baffling idea that I am Scar with a PR and has barely addressed any points I've made to refute it. Seems to find it 'scummy' that I won't claim when no one ever claims when they have one vote on them. If I DID claim I'd get responses of 'omg why did you claim so early you're not even near a lynch' I don't particularly care that he calls me scum, but I do take umbrage over the suggestion that I can only possibly be town if I was merely trolling the game for no apparent reason. I should hope it would be clear by now that I am willing to do whatever it takes to win a game and I would not jeopardise victory over nothing.
Regardless, Mandy is a clever player and his alignment can go either way with the way he has been playing.

I'd be more comfortable loooking at flores, pika or maybe even hotshot right now. Flores is my top suspect but the downside there is that she may not be around to really respond to it until she returns.
For now, vote flores unless someone has anything compelling to convince me otherwise.

[mandalorian2298]

That's a real nice post, Skoffin. Just two short points:

1) It absolutely OK to suspect someone based on something they haven't done. That's what the cool kids do.

2) If you claim, assuming it's Rafiki, I am going to further suspect you if and only if someone else claims his or her Rafikihood. Barring that, you'll be a confirmed Townie, first in line for Docing and thus the least likely to get NKed.
And you will have me to thank for that (but I will probably be too generous, as well as too humble, to point that out)

[Pikanchion]

Pika - Has been very good at looking useful by asking questions and quoting people, however it's very much an illusion for the fact he hasn't done a great deal and actually hasn't given a real opinion on anything. I'm always suspicious of pika

Have you taken into account that I only joined the game 17 pages in? -Checked whom I am currently voting for and the post accompanying it for instance? I can't give endless opinions on a lack of things happening, and the only thing I can think of that I haven't weighed in on personally is whether we should be suspicious of those who have VT claimed or not on account of their VT claims, an issue I'm largely on the fence about.

[Minister Masket]

The coming revelations must be silenced! Vote: Djfireside

Was....this a...joke?

I'm going to give my analysis of all players so far, and I suggest everyone else do the same. That way we may be able to see any links between people and any consensus on others.

If I'm lucky I should be able to do this sometime tonight. I doubt it will be as detailed as yours albeit.

[Pikanchion]

3. All ‘votes’ and ‘unvotes’ must be in bold and in red. If they are not, they will not be tallied. (I.E. Vote Ga7)
** If you vote two or more times consecutively without an unvote in between them, then the first vote will be the one that gets tallied. **

Yes.

[DirtyDishSoap]

1) flores
Passive-Aggressive against The Skoffin. Made some interesting points, on DJ & the VT roles, which I was wrong about initially (except the activity, I stand behind that). Don't believe she's scummy, bit vindictive against Skoffin, but perhaps I'm not seeing something.

2) mandy
Probably one of the most aggressive and stubborn players I've met on this site that has refused to budge on his stances. If he's scum hunting, then I applaud him for trying, but it's damn well near hurting town more than it is helping. I believed him to be town hunting initially, although I'm half skeptical about it now. 50/50 with him. Half tempted to throw him up on the altar to pressure a role.

3) chu
Has stood behind Sam, went against Mandy, and is now following up on DJ. I don't suspect Chu, playing the same as he did in BNI imo. Questions my sanity.

4) skittles
Activity is low, hard to pin point. The few times he has posted though, it was pro-town to me, so I'll give him a pass. Has a stupid avatar.

5 ) dj
Activity is also low, but made enough posts to make me think that he is scum. After his post earlier calling out his activity, he made a very contradicting post as well. I probably should have rebuttable it better, but I did it while I was at work, soz. His VT claim is also different from the other confirmed VT's. He hasn't sat right with me for awhile. Vote stays on.

6) pikanchion (replaces Tim)
I've had a very brief time with Pika, hard for me to pin point him exactly. Skoffin did, however, throw him under the bus when he (pika) was a townie. I'm not getting a scum vibe from him so far.

7) Mitch
Is Mitch

DDS
Half Idiot - Half Sane - All Man

9) Masket
I'm honestly not sure where to put MM. The times he's posted has been more like chiming in, some occasional fluff with his posts. I don't know where I stand with him at this time.

10) hotshot
Activity is low, possibly lurking. Chimed in a few times, but other than that, hasn't provided much of anything. First to put DJ up, steered away from the Sam case in the previous day. Also don't know know where to put him atm.

11) skoff
Thinks I'm kind of smurt. <3
I really don't find Skoffin scummy. The problem I've had with Days 3/Mandy/Skoff/DJ is that Mandy saw and pointed out that Skoffin didn't vote Days 1, that's rather abnormal for a player who I believe stands behind that "not voting" hurts town more than it helps. That is the only thing I agreed with Mandy's theory. I'm against the cult theory and Scar being cult, it makes absolutely 0 sense for Scar to be cult thematically. Even the PR/VR I find ridiculous given how thing's have played out. I don't think I can emphasize that anymore than I have.

I might have missed something. At work.

[HotShot53]

I'm away on a short vacation now, left early yesterday, and will get home late monday, so i won't have time to give a full summary of everyone until after I'm back. I am looking forward to seeing DJ's promised analysis though.

[FloresDelMal]

Hey there everyone, I did my reading and honestly I think is a bit early for do a player by player analysis, for those who have everything figured out by day 3 kudos, I am not one of them, but now that I took some distance from the game a gestalt thought came to me, I dont know why I didn't see it before even thought I re read even the rules, when skoff was playing the mod saying things like "its impossible to randomly assign a no vote pr because why if the chu got it" or something like this the whole argument rested over the fallacy that all mods including ours must use random.org for dostribute roles, which cant be further from the truth, some go to a semi randomised approach, others fully and others not at all, as long as is noy mentioned in the rules its ridiculous to just assume that the distribution of the roles was completely random, I personally only modded a couple of times but I always reserved a couple of key roles for ppl I thought could pull them off, and with that said im off to the pool, good weekend to everyone.

[Fircoal]

For DJ: The thing I find odd about his claim is that he states he received no message about a herd, it strikes me as odd that a scumster would make a claim that actively contradicts two people that have claimed similar roles.
Why would he not just say "yeah I'm part of the herd too" instead of questioning people who claimed the herd message as it conflicted with him? For the moment I'm inclined to believe he's town.

That is the one thing I don't get. Im not sure why he stuck with that. It does seem weird to me though. It is important to note the ordering though. I believe as it goes is that Mitch hinted first, then Sam said stuff about the herd, DJ questioned, and only after did DDS confirm on the herd idea.


Something I don't understand about the push against Skoffin is how is she supposed to know that she needs to vote on Day 1 to stop this sort of theory from happening? It's not the sort of things people usually think of. So it's very possible to her that she didn't think anything of it, and is not being grilled because she didn't think she needed to vote on DAy 1, which is fair.

I think it's also interesting to look at Mandy. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he is so actively scumhunting, but there is the question whether he's doing this to try to lead things down the path that he wants. I still feel it's risky but... here's the question. How hard did he go after Kwan and Benga? Iirc his arguments were more for DDS and Sam at teh time Benga died, and he was the 5th person on Kwan's lynch, not the 1st. So I don't know if we can claim that Mandy was really pushing for any of the actual confirmed dead scums, at least not as much as he'd like to say we can. It makes me wonder if his play is all a ruse to try to trick us into bad lynches.

[mandalorian2298]

@Fircoal:

About poor Skoffin who couldn't have known that she should vote during Day 1 (which lasted for 3 weeks, lest we forget):





It's not something that you need an extra incentive for. To play is to vote. To not vote is suspicious. To not vote over the whole 3 weeks long Day 1 is unprecedented and sets of Scumhunter-sense in those who poses it.

Concerning the Lynch Of The Kwan:

I jumped on this bandwagon after he accidentaly on purpose droped a scumtell, but once I was on, I was on to stay.
BTW, since we are tripping down the memory lane, you were aserting that his scumtel mprobably means nothing.

About Benga:

We were on the same page until he got NKed. I'm pretty sure that I never "went after him", I think that he wasn't even included in "Ruffling Feathers For Activity" tirades during early Day 1 when game started comatosing.

[Minister Masket]

1) DDS
One of the "two" claimed vanillas left, and the one I'm more inclined to believe. Apart from the perhaps unwise concrete stance on a Day 1 No Lynch, has been pretty consistent ever since in both activity and good points. Has a 3spooky5me avatar.

2) Mandy
*shrugs* Genuinely can't tell what's going on with him at the moment. Had a great early run in contributing towards scum kills but is now obsessed with Skoff's annihilation from the game. Hoping we can somehow prove Skoff's alignment so that he can get back on the right track. DDS suggested pressuring him but I wouldn't be on board with that when we have other options still to pursue.

3) Fircoal
Should obviously be targeted so that my tolerance for minimum one Pikachu-themed player per game is met.

4) Skittles
Really unusual behaviour from the criminally descended Australian. I'm honestly tempted to suggest maybe some pressure next day phase if a DJ lynch goes as I suspect it will.

5) pikanchion (replaces Tim)
I can't blame Pika for Tim's non-activity earlier on, but is slowing growing into the game by the looks of it. Seems to be rather non-committal so far which will have to change.

6) Mitch

Is Mitch

I suspect he's been here long enough to know we should expect such behaviour from him and I wouldn't rule out him using that to his advantage. One to watch methinks.

7) Minister Masket
All Man - All Mad Scientist - Not A Hyena

Masket
I'm honestly not sure where to put MM. The times he's posted has been more like chiming in, some occasional fluff with his posts. I don't know where I stand with him at this time.

Surely you should expect fluff from someone with a Fluffle Puff avatar?
I'm naturally weary with my posts nowadays. Making bold statements tends to land me in hot water more often than not. But you know, town has had a good game so far so we'll see. I also didn't want to be super active and then maybe look suspicious by not posting as much while I'm away.
Hoping I don't have to be replaced tbh as I'm enjoying this so far.

8.) hotshot

Activity is low, possibly lurking. Chimed in a few times, but other than that, hasn't provided much of anything.

Pretty much echoing DDS here.

9) skoff
I believe is (along with mandy) one of the most active players, and has done absolutely nothing (to me) to set off any scum alarms. More importantly, has stayed cool under the pressure so far which to me looks like a position of confidence you'd see from a town role. Has claimed to not be Simba, but is possibly someone else important like Nala or Rafiki.
That'll likely do nothing to deflect Flores' claim that I'm connected with her role-wise, but unless I haven't been told anything, that's news to me.

10) Flores
Is the one player I can't really put in either probably town or scum territory. Started off well but her style of play lately is raising my eyebrows a tad. Seems to be rather more suspicious of me, and I think we should have a proper debate Day 4 if we both come through unscathed.

11) DJ
I've said my bit on DJ already. 3 Vanilla's is one too many in my book and his claim just isn't as concrete as DDS' is.

MM's Scenarios on Today's Most Likely Lynch:

DJ is lynched as Scum
That'll likely leave a very desperate one scumster remaining.

DJ is lynched as Vanilla Townie
Welp. This won't look good for DDS truth be told, but we will have the consolidation of keeping the town power roles for the night phase.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I want everyone to fast track this thought process real quick with the DJ VT claim.

If we lynch DJ and he turns out to be town, what then?
Let's say there's an immediate bandwagon to have me lynched as well. I flip town, what then?

That's 4 people down, assuming RB/Doc misses, or worst, killed.

All I can say is, you're probably going to have to ditch the "Can't be that many VT in this game, lulz", and start looking for a new approach, because it's thus far proving to get us nowhere. I'm more than happy to lynch DJ or Mitch (if were going off the VT number theory), but simply trying to lynch every single VT claim isn't going to win us this game I think.

Just a future thought for D4.

[Minister Masket]

All I can say is, you're probably going to have to ditch the "Can't be that many VT in this game, lulz", and start looking for a new approach, because it's thus far proving to get us nowhere. I'm more than happy to lynch DJ or Mitch (if were going off the VT number theory), but simply trying to lynch every single VT claim isn't going to win us this game I think.

Just a future thought for D4.

Hmmm. I'd rather stay on that line of reasoning truth be told, but if there's more appetite to start pressuring players like HotShot, mitch or Skittles, I wouldn't be adverse to that.

It depends on how willing the town is in general to start opening up more about role elements moving into the late-game. We've likely got a Godfather and accomplice with unknown abilities left to find so it's a bit of a risk.

[Skoffin]

Well I'm keen to look at someone other than DJ. I don't want to go into an entire round of lynch all the VT claims on nothing else. But it would still be helpful to see more people give some feedback here.
Not particularly surprised that flores gave another suggestion as to why I am suspect, just adds to my theory that she'll be pushing me next day phase

[Skittles!]

I am concerned by how much Masket is keen on persueing the DJ and DDS line. If they all turn out to be actually townie, then that gives scum a huge advantage because they (VT) are technically the ones you have to convince to vote your way.

Yes I am playing a different style of game, but I have already stated why beforehand. It's not because I'm scum, but because for some reason I can't gel with this game but rest assured I am following it. I just am not thinking about who is who or how people are connected.

I'm going to vote DJfireside because he did show a very obvious scum tell. I would like someone to investigate Masket if they can, because his play style is very interesting this game as well. I know it's going to appear outrageous with the hammer, and because I am posting few and far between, but Fircoal brought up a valid point as well has others.

[Fircoal]

@Fircoal:

About poor Skoffin who couldn't have known that she should vote during Day 1 (which lasted for 3 weeks, lest we forget):





It's not something that you need an extra incentive for. To play is to vote. To not vote is suspicious. To not vote over the whole 3 weeks long Day 1 is unprecedented and sets of Scumhunter-sense in those who poses it.

Concerning the Lynch Of The Kwan:

I jumped on this bandwagon after he accidentaly on purpose droped a scumtell, but once I was on, I was on to stay.
BTW, since we are tripping down the memory lane, you were aserting that his scumtel mprobably means nothing.

About Benga:

We were on the same page until he got NKed. I'm pretty sure that I never "went after him", I think that he wasn't even included in "Ruffling Feathers For Activity" tirades during early Day 1 when game started comatosing.

@ Skoffin

Yes it's typical but that's the thing. It's something that comes up so rarely that one wouldn't even think of it. Neither would they think of such a role that has to do with it. It feels like you're grasping for straws with it. While I don't encourage the play that she did, I Don't think it's impossible that someone would do that naturally.

@ Kwan

Yes that's been brought up before and my position is stil the same. Rather there were other things that made him suspicious to me. I said this multiple times. It's not like I wasn't on his lynch. I was! Before you were too.

@ Benga

GAH! Wrong person. I was talking about Ragian.


@ VT talk

Come on people. I suspect DJ and DDS but it's not because there is a limited supply of VTs. You all need to think out of the box. It's not like it's so set in stone that there are only 2 VTs.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Three VT's* if you count Mitchs soft claim