Re: (GON 3rd game)Town wins. Day 5

[Gabsensei]

I never claimed the doctor, but thanks for forcing me to actually reveal my role. I am actually the reviver, and now I will not have the chance to revive anyone. I didn't revived the bodygaurd because I thought there would be more important, same for the watcher. I can only revive once and I was keeping it for the cop or the doctor. Looks like they both talked, so now that all the most important roles are out, we lost. Thanks for pursuing me...

i am not sure if its real but in case maybe we should leave him alone for now there is other people we could go on like for exemple h8 afk looked connected to joak and joak look connect to king and king is on my list of scummy i am not sure him saying he joak is a townie is real since for the role finding role are probaly all out since we lost the watcher and the cop is most likely someone we all know i would go ahead and go on that side but there is still charm the mystery girl who claimed regular townie for myself i know where i will be going:

unvote, vote king

[TheCrown]

If you would have fully claimed the 1st time, it would have saved us time, and not have had someone counter-claim. NOTE, this is why when you claim, you claim the whole thing. So, you think your 1 shot reviving is more important than doctor and cop? I don't think so. I think you are safe from lynch. But I also think when you have a role like that you should do the action ASAP, because you may never know who doctor or cop is until the end, and you also could be killed before using it.

And by the by, I think Sirius is lying. I don't really think he would save his action like that. He played around and now has outed a possible real important role with Gabs.

HANG SIRIUS HIGH!!!

[Gabsensei]

If you would have fully claimed the 1st time, it would have saved us time, and not have had someone counter-claim. NOTE, this is why when you claim, you claim the whole thing. So, you think your 1 shot reviving is more important than doctor and cop? I don't think so. I think you are safe from lynch. But I also think when you have a role like that you should do the action ASAP, because you may never know who doctor or cop is until the end, and you also could be killed before using it.

And by the by, I think Sirius is lying. I don't really think he would save his action like that. He played around and now has outed a possible real important role with Gabs.

HANG SIRIUS HIGH!!!

it is logic but just in case i would stay on king still have my suspicion on sirius and so i am ok if he does get lynch

[TheCrown]

OOPs, I meant I think Sirius would have been safe from night kill by the mafia, because they would have chosen other important roles to try to kill.

Don't let Sirius fool you here.... I think he accomplished what he wanted as mafia, and I really think he is lying and should be lynched. He's too smart a player to NOT have revived someone, I'm pretty convinced.

[SiriusCowKing]

So you would have me use my revive on the first day on the first one to die when I could have protected someone more important? I understand that sometimes, things like this can happen, but I thought I would have been safe until at least tomorrow. Oh well, at least I can revive someone this night, I think I'll revive the watcher. Also, the power roles that are that important should never claim out loud, otherwise they can be killed by the mafia.

As for King Edward goes, he is either a mafia or a mason brother. How else would he know that joak is innocent. Oh, and guess what, they are both on my suspect list and I think they are both mafia. I vote King Edward 3rd. Like I said, I think joak is connected to AFK, and Ed basically confessed he was connected to joak. If you guys would rather go for joak first I can change my vote no problem.

[legionnare]

So if you're saying that Gabs is the Doctor the who did he protect in the night?
Archer protected someone and died for it and TC thinks he was the target being protected
FP'd By Sirius

[legionnare]

Also, TC, if Sirius is the reviver and the mafia go for the doctor then would you be happy taking the risk that we would be unable to revive him?

[legionnare]

So if you're saying that Gabs is the Doctor the who did he protect in the night?
Archer protected someone and died for it and TC thinks he was the target being protected
FP'd By Sirius

DB4 and myself called for night action reports and answer came there none, why not?

[Gabsensei]

So if you're saying that Gabs is the Doctor the who did he protect in the night?
Archer protected someone and died for it and TC thinks he was the target being protected
FP'd By Sirius

DB4 and myself called for night action reports and answer came there none, why not?

just saying there was some answer reread everything and you should see

[Killuminati19]

I think Sirius' claim holds enough water. Unvote, vote KingEd for the reasons given by gabs. I also tend to agree with Sirius that you shouldn't flat out give up your role when forced to claim if it's important.

[TheCrown]

I never claimed the doctor, but thanks for forcing me to actually reveal my role. I am actually the reviver, and now I will not have the chance to revive anyone. I didn't revived the bodygaurd because I thought there would be more important, same for the watcher. I can only revive once and I was keeping it for the cop or the doctor. Looks like they both talked, so now that all the most important roles are out, we lost. Thanks for pursuing me...

Over the night, how did you know the BODYGUARD would be killed and needing reviving? No one knew Archer was dead until DAY 2 started. THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE REVIVED ARCHER, HE WASN'T DEAD YET!!!. The only one who was dead from day one, was Bantam. He was your only option to revive. SCUM!!! Sirius is caught in another lie here..... finish him off NOW!!! before he clouds the issue more.

[TheCrown]

I think Sirius' claim holds enough water. Unvote, vote KingEd for the reasons given by gabs. I also tend to agree with Sirius that you shouldn't flat out give up your role when forced to claim if it's important.

True, but in Sirius's case, if he were REALLY the reviver, he should have just claimed because hints don't do the full job. I assumed he was claiming doctor, but he could have been hinting at anything really... faith healer, doctor, back-up doctor, reviver, etc. Now we have another power role outed because he wasn't specific. This is Sirius' fault, and probably just how he wanted it as he is scum.

[SiriusCowKing]

I was saying that I was not gonna revive him. I can still revive tonight, geez you're so on my case, just like in game 1. Well anyway, I thought of a way that we can ensure staying alive for at least another day. If I keep my revive for the doc, and the doc protects me, then the mafia will either waste a try on me or kill the doc and i revive him. Meanwhile it gives us 1 more day of being sure who is town, that's not the whole game but it's a good edge.

[TheCrown]

@ Sirius, Please don't try to gain sympathy by comparing games... this game has nothing to do with the other game we played in together.

Sirius, you said you didn't revive the bodyguard, plain and simple. There was no way you could have known he needed reviving during the night phase. Sorry if you feel I am picking on you, but you say things that are sooooo scummy looking. How did you KNOW that archer would need reviving last night and that you chose not to revive him? He wasn't dead yet.

I am not going to beat this dead horse any longer. You guys either think Sirius is innocent based on what he has said, or you think he is scummy by what he has said. It's all there. I could be a real arse and not give an inch on lynching Sirius, but I try to never feel 100% correct, because a lot of you are still learning the game. If you'd rather go down the road of someone else, then I think you're missing a great opportunity to catch scum here. If Sirius is not scum, then he just talked very scummy. I am done with this now unless he posts more that look quite scummy.

Lead on someone.... lead on.

[Gabsensei]

@ Sirius, Please don't try to gain sympathy by comparing games... this game has nothing to do with the other game we played in together.

Sirius, you said you didn't revive the bodyguard, plain and simple. There was no way you could have known he needed reviving during the night phase. Sorry if you feel I am picking on you, but you say things that are sooooo scummy looking. How did you KNOW that archer would need reviving last night and that you chose not to revive him? He wasn't dead yet.

I am not going to beat this dead horse any longer. You guys either think Sirius is innocent based on what he has said, or you think he is scummy by what he has said. It's all there. I could be a real arse and not give an inch on lynching Sirius, but I try to never feel 100% correct, because a lot of you are still learning the game. If you'd rather go down the road of someone else, then I think you're missing a great opportunity to catch scum here. If Sirius is not scum, then he just talked very scummy. I am done with this now unless he posts more that look quite scummy.

Lead on someone.... lead on.

i do think he look scummy but in the minimal chance he is what he claim to be maybe we should let him live one more night and see what he say i think we should go on king who said many scummy thing too and said joak is townie which we all believed he was connect to h8 afk so by connection i would go and say they are all connect and all are mafia or these 2 are something else but with all the post i saw from king i am thinking he is scummy

for you sirius i think you should just use the revive ability right away on archer if you really are reviver so that way we get another protectif role in and get 1 more night to find who is scum if no one come alive tomorow then we lynch sirius right away how is it?

[legionnare]

What about charm? She has been as scummy as King.

Agree with your plan Gab, anything that helps narrow the field of possible Mafia

[Killuminati19]

I'm with Gabs. I haven't given Sirius the all clear, but if there is no revivial, we should get an immediate day 3 lynch. For today, Sirius is possibly one of 3 or 4 remaining mafia. Let's find another one today.

[mookiemcgee]

Since Sirius made an "offer" to revive the next dead Townie, perhaps we give him 1 more day alive and try to lynch the next scummiest? Its seems like there is some traction on both King Ed and Charm... Even though she's funny I think Charm is the safe vote, being new I'll hold off untill I see if you all agree

[SiriusCowKing]

Makes sense Gab, I just wish it was a more important role to revive.

[DB4Christ]

Well.....if Moo is telling the truth, we just totally gave up a power roll. Seems like the way he would play it to me......not sure though. I would rather give him the benefit of the doubt at this point, than hang another power townie!! I think we have pushed enough people for D-2. Lets look at the H8 hanging crew, that's always my best sense of who is scum.

[TheCrown]

Well.....if Moo is telling the truth, we just totally gave up a power roll. Seems like the way he would play it to me......not sure though. I would rather give him the benefit of the doubt at this point, than hang another power townie!! I think we have pushed enough people for D-2. Lets look at the H8 hanging crew, that's always my best sense of who is scum.

skimming DB4? it was Bantam that was hung, not H8.

[Bantam]

[TuffyLess]

I unvote

So from the list of votes we take all those who voted for H8 (the only known mafia) out and are left with this:
Tuffy
Mookie
Joak
Charm

I would like to see some response from these 4

Seriously?
Perhaps I should have bandwagoned along with a few others, Kill & KE3 to name a few, who voted 3 and 4 times in one day!
There - thats the response I have to that.

So if you're saying that Gabs is the Doctor the who did he protect in the night?
Archer protected someone and died for it and TC thinks he was the target being protected
FP'd By Sirius

DB4 and myself called for night action reports and answer came there none, why not?

Ive called for them too to come out too but in an encryptingly fashion ... TC saw that different than me - he wanted them fully-blown disclosed.
That Im not really interested in arguing over because its just a distraction (the way to claim your role).
We gotta stay on target w/ the time remaining d2.

So - KE3 and Charm. There does seem to be that whole KE3 -> joak -> H8 thing.
d1 - I didnt know if I was reading to much into joak -> H8 so I pretty much let it go due to being labeled a paranoid.
d2 - Then KE3 vouched for joak and says 99% townie.
d2 - Then KE3 claims doc.
Either its all one way or the other - has to be. KE3 & joak are good and therefore unrelated to H8 or all 3 of them are bad.
Im not sure there is anything more to really ask of KE3 - its either a lynch agreement or its not.

Dont worry legion - Ill be casting another vote on whoever we decide should hang.
Itll tell us for sure come r3 who will hang or who will not.


And for the life of me how come we cannot discuss H8 death!?!
I keep bringing up because it has to be important and we're ignoring it.
TC says he can think of other ways for him to have died other than a town vig.
2nd mafia is another, sure.
Perhaps ya'll are right and it isnt.

[TuffyLess]

Damn it!
I hate this no edit thing.

And Legion - I also want to add to my response that I already said I backed archer on purpose by not voting r1.

I know you prolly missed it; we all do.
Ill go find it if you want.
Unless everyone monitors this thread like a hawk all day, which many of us cannot do, some of us are bound to have to say the same thing a few times for everyone to catch it.

[DB4Christ]

Well.....if Moo is telling the truth, we just totally gave up a power roll. Seems like the way he would play it to me......not sure though. I would rather give him the benefit of the doubt at this point, than hang another power townie!! I think we have pushed enough people for D-2. Lets look at the H8 hanging crew, that's always my best sense of who is scum.

skimming DB4? it was Bantam that was hung, not H8.

My mistake. I meant the Bantam Hanging Crew.