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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby Streaker on Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:58 am

I was under the impression that quick days, or better advocating quick days, were scummy. However, I do feel that commander has proven his point about the necessity of deadlines. It really does spark up conversation.

I have read and reread the scene between commander and mandy, but I don't know what side to pick if I were forced to do so.
There is a great deal of information to go by here, and we can fill at least 2 more days with lynches.

That said, I don't really understand why edoc is getting off the hook this easily. Since when do we not investigate self-claimed third party roles? Yes, he is feeling very confident. So what? They way he is playing, I'm sure a night investigation on him will turn up empty. He probably even has a great fake claim ready just in case. That's why he is feeling untouchable. The only way we can be sure of his allignment, is by lynching him. (Though I don't wanna go all medieval here, and witch hunt. It's a witch! Throw her in the river and see if she floats...)
Edoc says he will have his use, so why not press for it? The longer we drag this out, the potentially more powerfull he might get. For the few mafia's I've been in or have read, mafia tends to get weaker as days go by. Third party on the other hand could easily grow in strength. Don't misunderstand me here, I'm just pointing out the threat of a third party. Everyone seems to neglect it.

Now on to got tonkaed. Hi mate. Are you enjoying the game?
You come in here with that little post, shouting out how 'obvious' my lynch should be. Care to actually support that case? I know there is heat on me, and I'm looking forward to defending myself. It should make things more clear about the way I'm playing. But seriously, you can at least TRY to make an actual case?

Now that you are here, mind answering a few things?

got tonkaed wrote:The stupid thing is that both mandy and commander are dumb third party roles who arent aligned or they are stupidly competent scum buddies which does no one any good.

The clear lynch today is streaker and the fact that the whole world isnt aware of it boggles my mind.

By all means I am aware of the beautiful necessity of commander and mandy farting around for 7 pages, but the day ends with a streaker lynch, so we should srsly figure out who else is a bad guy.



-Why do you call commander and Mandy 'dumb third party roles'? Why is that a 'stupid thing'? The part I'd like to see explained is how you are so sure they are just that. You seem awfully convinced.
-Why aren't they alligned? Everyone is aligned, me thinks?
-If above doesn't fit, how are they 'stupidly competent scum buddies'? And how does that do us no good? If they really are, it will come back and bite them in the ass.
-Why am I clearly the lynch for today? I'm aware of the case against me, but that doesn't make me the clearest lynch.
-Mandy and commander are having a great discussion, and you call it 'farting' around for a few pages? Did you even bother reading it all?

You wanna figure out who are the bad guys. Congratulations. Mind helping us with that? You not voting on Day 1, and scummarining on Day 2 certainly isn't helping.
All in all a very suspicious post.

I know commander already called out tonkaed on a few of these items, but it's just for good measure. Don't want him to accidently read over commanders posts.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby mandalorian2298 on Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:25 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:
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Victor Sullivan wrote:Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.


Mandy's scumminess does not have anything to do with you.

Brutal misinterpretation again, Commander... I never said mandy had anything to do with you. I said the same argument I used for Mandy's not being scum could be applied to your case from yesterday.


Can you explain then?

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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby Commander9 on Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:09 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:
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Victor Sullivan wrote:Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.


Mandy's scumminess does not have anything to do with you.

Brutal misinterpretation again, Commander... I never said mandy had anything to do with you. I said the same argument I used for Mandy's not being scum could be applied to your case from yesterday.


Can you explain then?

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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:11 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:
Commander9 wrote:Can you explain then?

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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby nagerous on Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:12 pm

Wait a second Victor, why is there blood on your hand? :shock: FOS
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 7 days)

Postby TheSaxlad on Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:43 pm

edocsil wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
edocsil wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:And here I thought that the main scummy thing about me in this game has been my bellow-average spouting. It seems that no matter what I do I just can't get any love around here. :(


It is. The accusations of wifom really is a below average spouting. Really stretching it there.


Dude, you basically said: "I proclaimed that I am not part of the Town, because I wanted to lure out scum to vote for me because I might present a danger for Town."

This a textbook of WIFOM. Yes, you are more likely to be a danger for Town then any other random player, and the fact that you said it openly doesn't show that you are well-intentioned, it shows you're cocky.


Cocky I am, but a mistake I am not making. I am no danger to the town. Investigate me if I live, I am innocent. Either I am the dumbest GF in history, or perhaps there is a shred of truth in what I claim. Tell me Mandy, is this more wild then anything you have ever done in a game? I doubt it. I have an interesting role to play in this game and I do not mean to sit back and take the easy road. No matter what happens this game is going to be a riot for me.


Just for kicks, this is saying Calypso all over for me.

To Answer / Comments, I didn't realise on that page that Strike had been voted, I voted him for the reason that at the time Edoc was the best lynch as he had already said he was "anti-town" before changing his tune to "no-threat" to the town. Now I find it hard to believe he can be anti town but be no threat...? Strike was just keeping everyone away from that, which led me to suspect that Edoc and Strike were working together in some form or another, whether I added to a bandwaggon or not it made no difference.

At the moment I am stumped. Mandy is being scummy with most posts (not really a suprise). I would like some more from Edoc and Strike and also to look at some of the inactives, falko, vi and got tonkaed, who have a combined post count of under 10. Which is less than Mandy or Strike on their own.

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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:36 pm

nagerous wrote:Wait a second Victor, why is there blood on your hand? :shock: FOS

Oh, nagerous, you were too drunk to remember, weren't you? That was some fine party. *winks at mandy* Commander was gettin' it on with Fircoal. Didn't realize he was into necrophilia...
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby strike wolf on Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:42 pm

Hmm...not sure I really buy your excuse for voting me. Other than that it seems I misunderstood your reasons for voting me. I never actually had edoc in my sights as the most scummy. I was already looking at mandy and streaker at that point. Edoc however had been caught and acknowledged acting differently the day before and said he would give an explanation and I called him out on it. That by the way makes no sense for me to do so if I was a scum buddy unless I was going to sell him down the river.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby safariguy5 on Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:13 pm

Vote Count

edocsil(3)- Falkomagno, streaker, Mass Miracle
strike wolf(2)- PCM, Victor
Mandy(4)- Com9, edocsil, strike wolf, nag
nag(1)- Mandy
Com9(1)- freezie
streaker(1)- tails
Saxlad(1)- /
pancakemix(1)- sheep

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:14 pm

strike wolf wrote:Hmm...not sure I really buy your excuse for voting me.

I wouldn't expect you to agree with lynching yourself :lol: :roll:
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby strike wolf on Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:31 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Hmm...not sure I really buy your excuse for voting me.

I wouldn't expect you to agree with lynching yourself :lol: :roll:

True. :lol:
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 5 days)

Postby sheepofdumb on Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:17 pm

I'm on page 27. I just finished chu's book. Damn skippy.

I'm going to keep this brief, mostly because I haven't caught up yet and partly because my mind needs time to digest.

I find both Mandy and Edoc incredibly scummy. Edoc has been vote hopping with half baked one liners. I'll get back to Mandy when I can reason and recall properly. For now I am going to Unvote vote Edoc. Huge FOS mandy.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 6 days)

Postby Falkomagno on Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:25 am

got tonkaed wrote:The stupid thing is that both mandy and commander are dumb third party roles who arent aligned or they are stupidly competent scum buddies which does no one any good.

The clear lynch today is streaker and the fact that the whole world isnt aware of it boggles my mind.

By all means I am aware of the beautiful necessity of commander and mandy farting around for 7 pages, but the day ends with a streaker lynch, so we should srsly figure out who else is a bad guy.



But your vote is not even placed at streaker. Why?

Although, I agree that streaker is a good option, especially because his day one votes and posts, in the same sense that edoc. Just jumping from bandwagon to bandwagon without reasoning, and putting meaningless 2 lines post,. D2 of streaker has been more decent and meaningful, which is not the case of edocil, who said that he felt "pressured" and for that reason semi claimed not being town, even if never have had more than 2 votes until now.


By the way, why nobody remember that we have a player called haggis who has barely active in the game?...not even prodded, not even commented, not even existed but for joining in my bandwagon (8th vote if I'm not wrong) of the first day
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 5 days)

Postby safariguy5 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:43 am

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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 5 days)

Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:13 am

sheepofdumb wrote:I'm on page 27. I just finished chu's book. Damn skippy.

I'm going to keep this brief, mostly because I haven't caught up yet and partly because my mind needs time to digest.

I find both Mandy and Edoc incredibly scummy. Edoc has been vote hopping with half baked one liners. I'll get back to Mandy when I can reason and recall properly. For now I am going to Unvote vote Edoc. Huge FOS mandy.


Thank God! You got me worried there for a second. :shock:
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 5 days)

Postby Commander9 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:47 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:Thank God! You got me worried there for a second. :shock:
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So in the end, all discussions basically end and you still won't respond. Well, gg guys.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 5 days)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:38 pm

Commander9 wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:Thank God! You got me worried there for a second. :shock:
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So in the end, all discussions basically end and you still won't respond. Well, gg guys.

It's been a good Day 2. :)
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 5 days)

Postby safariguy5 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:39 pm

Vote Count

edocsil(4)- Falkomagno, streaker, Mass Miracle, sheep
strike wolf(2)- PCM, Victor
Mandy(4)- Com9, edocsil, strike wolf, nag
nag(1)- Mandy
Com9(1)- freezie
streaker(1)- tails
Saxlad(1)- /

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 4 days)

Postby edocsil on Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:23 pm

Alright, time for the gambit.

I am the Sao Feng, Town Traitor, I win with the mafia. That however is not the the win condition I am aiming for. If Jack dies while I am alive I win as well.

So the way my role works is if Jack dies while I am alive I win, and if I make it to the end of the game alive and the mafia win, I win as well. The issue with that is they don't know that I am allied with them, hence I end up dead, and not winning. My odds are much better selling them out (I know who they all are, but not roles) and crossing my fingers that Jack dies before I do. Like I said, the town and I have something the other wants. I know all the EITC, you have doc protections. Every day I am alive I will give you another scum, and I will hope that Jack gets NKed.

In good faith I will Unvote Vote Streaker, He is my best guess for Beckett as the GF, as he has been the most aggressive out of the scum, something typical of the GF. Others have also argued for his lynch, so I think he is one you will be willing to hang to test my truthfulness. He is also gunning for me, and if he is the mafia GF as I suspect, it is really in my best interests to make sure he isn't the one directing the kill...

So who do you hang? Me or Streaker.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 4 days)

Postby nagerous on Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:27 pm

Sounds too good to be true.. I suspect a lyncher.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 4 days)

Postby edocsil on Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:50 pm

nagerous wrote:Sounds too good to be true.. I suspect a lyncher.


I thought the first suggestion was going to be usurper but I guess I was wrong. I already admitted to wanting another character dead so I guess it isn't terribly improbable. Certainly done a piss poor job of it if I am a lyncher.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 4 days)

Postby strike wolf on Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:07 pm

I'm kind of along the lines of nag this sounds too good to be true.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 4 days)

Postby sheepofdumb on Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:04 pm

Either way Edoc is screwed. Lynched by town or NK'd by mafia. If his claim is true (and I have some reason to believe it is because that sounds like a fun role) then it's really up to him on how badly he wants to screw this game. Still, it's safer to go with his lynch because right now at the most it will give the town streaker and at the least a possible lyncher.

I say you spill the beans.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 4 days)

Postby edocsil on Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:54 pm

sheepofdumb wrote:Either way Edoc is screwed. Lynched by town or NK'd by mafia. If his claim is true (and I have some reason to believe it is because that sounds like a fun role) then it's really up to him on how badly he wants to screw this game. Still, it's safer to go with his lynch because right now at the most it will give the town streaker and at the least a possible lyncher.

I say you spill the beans.


How bought I go with f*ck You? The remaining names are my only protection, and I am not about to give them up until I can assume it is reasonably safe for me to do so. Go out on a limb here and try hanging him. If I lie NK me tonight, Mandy, the only other person you have even close to enough momentum to hang isn't EITC, hence why I am playing this gambit now, you really don't have a choice but to go with me, what I offer is to great to ignore for the town. The names of 5 scum, how can that be ignored?
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 2 (Deadline: 4 days)

Postby VioIet on Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:19 am

Hmm, this is quite reminiscent of San Francisco.

Honestly, I do believe Edoc here. I think we should still be cautious of him, in case he is trying to play the town. However his claim can easily be tested- so i don't understand all the apprehension about it.

I am going to re-look at his post on Day 1- perhaps all the people he voted for were scum.


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