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[Falkomagno]

Well, I think that I'm gonna explain me.

1. My first vote, for pmc, was a random vote. no explainable at all.

2. My first vote with some cause was for jnd, because,after drench vote for himself. I think that someone who vote for himself just do mess and suspicious from everywhere, so I think that such a thing is only good for scum. Anyway, the mod and others just said that this is a normal behaviour in drench. At this point, everyone can do his own conclusions. But with that move, drench was L-2, and jnd vote for him, and he didn't gave a reason..he just put

unvote LSU vote Drench

So, I saw that as suspicious, and I voted for jnd. After that, jnd explain his vote, but then pmc put all my post implying that I'm scum. But if you look carefully, after requoting me and all, the only reason that he gave was :

2. Drench is town, so scum go after him when under the spotlight then when people come to his aide they quickly change there opinion and end up accusing those accusing Drench.

If that was true, There is no sense that I've never vote for drench and put him at L-1. And that attemp to put build an acusation it's scum. why you try so hard to build an acusation, based only in thread activity? - because I've been active as I could in this game, since I like this game-
So, that effort that he put in that acusation says me that he is going for the player that he thinks he could put most quotes, and pretend pass it as evidence

[Falkomagno]

Well, I think that I'm gonna explain me.

1. My first vote, for pmc, was a random vote. no explainable at all.

2. My first vote with some cause was for jnd, because,after drench vote for himself. I think that someone who vote for himself just do mess and suspicious from everywhere, so I think that such a thing is only good for scum. Anyway, the mod and others just said that this is a normal behaviour in drench. At this point, everyone can do his own conclusions. But with that move, drench was L-2, and jnd vote for him, and he didn't gave a reason..he just put

unvote LSU vote Drench

So, I saw that as suspicious, and I voted for jnd. After that, jnd explain his vote, but then pmc put all my post implying that I'm scum. But if you look carefully, after requoting me and all, the only reason that he gave was :

2. Drench is town, so scum go after him when under the spotlight then when people come to his aide they quickly change there opinion and end up accusing those accusing Drench.

If that was true, There is no sense that I've never vote for drench and put him at L-1.

And that attemp to build an acusation it's scum. Why you try so hard to build an acusation, based only in thread activity? - because I've been active as I could in this game, since I like this game-
So, that effort that he put in that acusation says me that he is going for the player that he thinks he could put most quotes, and pretend pass it as evidence

[pmchugh]

Well, I think that I'm gonna explain me.

1. My first vote, for pmc, was a random vote. no explainable at all.

2. My first vote with some cause was for jnd, because,after drench vote for himself. I think that someone who vote for himself just do mess and suspicious from everywhere, so I think that such a thing is only good for scum. Anyway, the mod and others just said that this is a normal behaviour in drench. At this point, everyone can do his own conclusions. But with that move, drench was L-2, and jnd vote for him, and he didn't gave a reason..he just put

unvote LSU vote Drench

So, I saw that as suspicious, and I voted for jnd. After that, jnd explain his vote,

You missed something out here, you don't have to vote to show suspicion towards someone, I did not say "I find your votes scummy" I am quoting all your posts not just those in which you voted. The reasoning behind your vote on jnd is fair play, it is the way in which you posted I find scummy. You tried to start BW's and get other people to generate theories/give votes while not offering up your own, until you had a 100% solid reason to vote jnd.

but then pmc put all my post implying that I'm scum. But if you look carefully, after requoting me and all, the only reason that he gave was :

2. Drench is town, so scum go after him when under the spotlight then when people come to his aide they quickly change there opinion and end up accusing those accusing Drench.

If that was true, There is no sense that I've never vote for drench and put him at L-1.

Exactly, you said:

and why drench vote for himself?...quite suspicious

You cast suspcion on him but did not actually do the voting, it appears as if your trying to egg us on to vote for him but being careful to avoid being the one getting the blame if he turned up town. You don't have to vote to get someone lynched. If he turned up town everyone would have said "Why did you put him at L-1" so you didn't vote for him.

And that attemp to build an acusation it's scum. Why you try so hard to build an acusation, based only in thread activity? - because I've been active as I could in this game, since I like this game

My vote has nothing to do with thread activity.

So, that effort that he put in that acusation says me that he is going for the player that he thinks he could put most quotes, and pretend pass it as evidence

I am going after you because at this moment in time you appear to be the most scummy player, and there is no point in sitting on the fence so yes I will go after you until I am satisfied that you are not scum or a more prominent target emerges. We are still to hear from a good few people and the longer they take to respond the more closely I will read there reactions as scum love to sit back and watch town battle it out. And as for the trying to pass it off as evidence I am merely giving reasons, quoting what you said and showing how I believe it to be scummy, it's a common tactic.

[Falkomagno]

You missed something out here, you don't have to vote to show suspicion towards someone.

I didn't know

I did not say "I find your votes scummy" I am quoting all your posts not just those in which you voted. The reasoning behind your vote on jnd is fair play, it is the way in which you posted I find scummy. You tried to start BW's and get other people to generate theories/give votes while not offering up your own, until you had a 100% solid reason to vote jnd.

What does mean BW's? backwards? Anyway, as I said later, I vote for jnd because he didn't give a reason, but when he explain himself, his vote by Drench was legitimated. Not before

but then pmc put all my post implying that I'm scum. But if you look carefully, after requoting me and all, the only reason that he gave was :

2. Drench is town, so scum go after him when under the spotlight then when people come to his aide they quickly change there opinion and end up accusing those accusing Drench.

If that was true, There is no sense that I've never vote for drench and put him at L-1.

Exactly, you said:

and why drench vote for himself?...quite suspicious

You cast suspcion on him but did not actually do the voting, it appears as if your trying to egg us on to vote for him but being careful to avoid being the one getting the blame if he turned up town. You don't have to vote to get someone lynched. If he turned up town everyone would have said "Why did you put him at L-1" so you didn't vote for him.

So, you gonna say that it's not suspicious someone who votes for himself?? What you gain voting for yourself being townie?? Still it's suspicious for me, but I have stronger reasons for vote for you, but the number 2 in my scummy list is Drench anyway

I am merely giving reasons, quoting what you said and showing how I believe it to be scummy, it's a common tactic.

I realized that. But well, as i said later, unless you are a so paranoid townie, wich I seriously doubt, I think that you are chasing me because my thread activity, and that's because you are scum. So, I'm gonna stop my activity here until more people put their thoughts here, and because it seems like every thing that I say can use against me

[Hologram]

Alright, I'm seeking a replacement for ace. I sent him a prod and he has yet to respond.

To all other players, if you've avoided participation for whatever reason and are actually silently active, let me know in some way, shape, or form so I don't have to go out and prod/replace you as well. You should know who you are, but I'm especially looking at SEAsportsfan and Simon Viavant.

[Samuraipizzaguy]

Confirm

I read through all of these posts and i have to say falko is being very scummy.
Vote: Falko

[pmchugh]

Confirm

I read through all of these posts and i have to say falko is being very scummy.
Vote: Falko

Reasons?

I did not say "I find your votes scummy" I am quoting all your posts not just those in which you voted. The reasoning behind your vote on jnd is fair play, it is the way in which you posted I find scummy. You tried to start BW's and get other people to generate theories/give votes while not offering up your own, until you had a 100% solid reason to vote jnd.

What does mean BW's? backwards? Anyway, as I said later, I vote for jnd because he didn't give a reason, but when he explain himself, his vote by Drench was legitimated. Not before

BW is bandwagon. When did I ever say I disagreed with your reasoning behind the vote on jnd, this is not a reason why I am voting you so why are you still defending it?

So, you gonna say that it's not suspicious someone who votes for himself?? What you gain voting for yourself being townie?? Still it's suspicious for me, but I have stronger reasons for vote for you, but the number 2 in my scummy list is Drench anyway

So why didn't you vote drench at the start?

I realized that. But well, as i said later, unless you are a so paranoid townie, wich I seriously doubt, I think that you are chasing me because my thread activity, and that's because you are scum. So, I'm gonna stop my activity here until more people put their thoughts here, and because it seems like every thing that I say can use against me

Don't stop posting, if you do so now it will only make you look more suspicious for trying to disappear into the background.

[Samuraipizzaguy]

Confirm

I read through all of these posts and i have to say falko is being very scummy.
Vote: Falko

Reasons?

Well firstly i don't care if you think i'm scummy or not.
Secondly

Wow....I have what I need to do a secure vote.

First, and because it's my first game ever, seemed too suspicious to me that someone vote for himself, since the mess and the mutual suspicious it's only good for scum. Then, after mod explaining that is a ussual drench technique, and after put himself at L-2, the bob marley guy vote for him without a reason. That said me that he is scum, since it's attemping to a suddenly and quick lynch. And now, after all that diatriba, aganist me orquested by pmchugh confirm the point of who is scum and who's not.

I'm sure that the mastermind of the scum in this game, and revealed so early is pmchugh.

unvote vote pmchugh

Even more, I think that in his attemp to look innocent, he show us how scum he is.

1. Drench is scum, so scum buddies come to his defense. i.e. Me, simon and LSU.

At first point, he try to do a list, of the defenders of Drench, and put that list as the other only possible option to the given point number 2. but well, I think that the real and possible list of scum can be Drench, jnd94, and of course, pmchugh. But in this point I can not be 100% sure of that. I'm just sure about pmchug

that whole post oozes scum lol

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Falco does sound pretty suspicious, but personally I'm thinking he is likely just noob townie rather then actual scum. More times than not noobs get lynched on "scum tells" when they are in fact just ignorant.

Unvote Vote Sam no original thought in your post, evidently you skimmed to the last page and just went with that for your voting. Shouldn't bother doing a "serious" vote until you've at least weighed all evidence yourself instead of letting someone else do it for you.

[Samuraipizzaguy]

honestly i think we are wasting time switching votes. Normally I play where you can't switch votes once cast. But honestly if you think i'm scummy go ahead vote for me. If not then don't. It's really that simple. Your right in that i skim read the posts but remember i was a replacement so i had to confirm and cast my vote soon so i wouldn't be kicked plus look at my profile page i've been here for maybe a week or two so honestly i'm pretty newb at this. I've played mafia in RL and it was fun because we never went this deep. We were just having fun
so in summary i guess i'll unvote and wait and read untill more evidence shows up against someone. Then i'll vote with a more informed response.

[Hologram]

Pick up the speed here. I really don't want to enforce a deadline, but I will if you can't come to a conclusion.

Vote Count:
Drench (3) – Drench, SEAsportsfan, jnd94
pmchugh (1) – Simon Viavant, Falkomagno
Samuraipizzaguy(1) – LSU Tiger Josh
Falkomagno (1) – pmchugh

[Hologram]

Also, sam_levi_11 will be replacing SEAsportsfan.

[Thezzaruz]

Your right in that i skim read the posts but remember i was a replacement so i had to confirm and cast my vote soon so i wouldn't be kicked

Can't believe that hologram put such a harsh time restriction on you. Might believe the rookie card though.

Vote Count:
pmchugh (1) – Simon Viavant, Falkomagno

No biggie but that ain't right.

[Hologram]

Vote Count:
pmchugh (1) – Simon Viavant, Falkomagno

No biggie but that ain't right.

It should be.... Goddammit, now I have to read through all your back and forth bullshit again.

Will repost when I track down this phantom vote.

[Hologram]

No, it's definitely right, but I found other mistakes.

So here:
Drench (2) –sam_levi_11, jnd94
pmchugh (2) –Simon Viavant, Falkomagno
sam_levi_11 (1) – Drench
Falkomagno (1) – pmchugh
Samuraipizzaguy (1) – LSU Tiger Josh

[pmchugh]

A few points to sam:

I don't buy you had to vote or be kicked, I think you just made that up on the spot in your defense.
Yes this is different to RL you can't read faces so you have to read every word.
Oh and of course you can vote switch, sometimes I vote people I don't even believe to be scum just to see there reaction.

And at falko, why have your posts stopped?

Finally I would like to hear from Drench, sam levi and thez. Thez because your posting but not acutally giving any opinions and the other two for going quiet.

[Simon Viavant]

Sorry guys, I haven't had much time lately, I haven't been able to be on for a couple of days.

First of all, unvote

I dunno, pmc and jnd and falk don't strike me as that scummy, I think falk's just new to the game.

AT this point LSU is the most suspicious but not enough to merit a vote.

[Samuraipizzaguy]

A few points to sam:

I don't buy you had to vote or be kicked, I think you just made that up on the spot in your defense.

How i read the message thats what i read *shruggs* its proabaly not true but thats what i thought was true.

[Thezzaruz]

Finally I would like to hear from Drench, sam levi and thez.

I'll get back in a few hours for that.

Vote Count:
pmchugh (1) – Simon Viavant, Falkomagno

It should be.... Goddammit, now I have to read through all your back and forth bullshit again.

Sorry I wasn't clearer. I meant the fact that you wrote "1" on pmc but had 2 names there. Fixed in the new VC though.

[Thezzaruz]

whoa... I just edited my post without thinking. Sorry about that, have spent most of my time in other forums lately. /o\
(I didn't change anything though, just added the reply to pmc)

[Falkomagno]

I would be glad if we could listen to Stroop, Drench and the replace of SEA, to move the things up in this game.

[pmchugh]

whoa... I just edited my post without thinking. Sorry about that, have spent most of my time in other forums lately. /o\
(I didn't change anything though, just added the reply to pmc)

Lol you did a phantom update so you could have got away with it.

[sam_levi_11]

Ok guys this is how i see it.

Drench always votes himself anyway, probably mainly for a laugh, so i think that was a bit of a stupid bandwagon. If someone else other than him or cena did it, then maybe, but he always does it.

Samarai, you obviously simply made a rookie mistake, and the posting or you are kicked thing is simply an attempt to recover from that, so i dont see you as scummy quite yet.

Then we come to to falkomangothing. You seem to be the most scummy, and so far have come under heavy scrutiny. Id be tempted to vote for you for outdoing me on the bad grammar and sentance structure. However, you also seem very nooby and ignorant more than anything, that said, you still look more scummy than the others.

You did however, get my attention with one post, in which you stated:

I am merely giving reasons, quoting what you said and showing how I believe it to be scummy, it's a common tactic.

I realized that. But well, as i said later, unless you are a so paranoid townie, wich I seriously doubt, I think that you are chasing me because my thread activity, and that's because you are scum. So, I'm gonna stop my activity here until more people put their thoughts here, and because it seems like every thing that I say can use against me

This underlines your noobyness more than anything. At first, it does seem this way, i felt so myself, but you simply have to realise how you phrase things can mean they sound different to other people. However, saying you are stopping being active is stupid and an immature and game halting thing to do when you have votes on you and alot of pressure and slows the game down.

For now all i see is lots of rookie mistakes so ill hold off my vote.

[sam_levi_11]

also it would be nice to hear from drench who doesnt seem to have posted in a while, and seems to have laid low since the self voting thing.

[pmchugh]

Hold on, did sam actually just talk sense in a mafia game