WoT:Mem of Light An Ending

[aage]

The chance of their being two bus roles in this game are pretty slim, but we have already found out that this is an unusual set up. That said, I think we need to start making a decision and whilst I am incredibly suspicious of Mandy, and would like to go after Tolke purely for being so absent, I'm going to unvote vote mitch. He's seemed scummy for a long time now and has seemingly lied his way out of it on numerous occasions. The main reasons someone would ever lie this badly is because they are scum.

unofficial VC after this post:
Mitch (8) Storr, BuJ, Newguy, Doom, Marashu, Tim*, Aage, Sam
Mandy (5) Wing, Hotshot, Mitch, Mets, Ragian
Wing (1): Mandy

This should be the current VC.

*Tim never actually unvoted me so there's that

[BuJaber]

unofficial VC after this post:
Mitch (8) Storr, BuJ, Newguy, Doom, Marashu, Tim*, Aage, Sam
Mandy (5) Wing, Hotshot, Mitch, Mets, Ragian
Wing (1): Mandy

This should be the current VC.

*Tim never actually unvoted me so there's that

Mandy unvoted and voted for mitch.. It's a lynch.

[aage]

The chance of their being two bus roles in this game are pretty slim, but we have already found out that this is an unusual set up. That said, I think we need to start making a decision and whilst I am incredibly suspicious of Mandy, and would like to go after Tolke purely for being so absent, I'm going to unvote vote mitch. He's seemed scummy for a long time now and has seemingly lied his way out of it on numerous occasions. The main reasons someone would ever lie this badly is because they are scum.

unofficial VC after this post:
Mitch (8) Storr, BuJ, Newguy, Doom, Marashu, Tim*, Aage, Sam
Mandy (5) Wing, Hotshot, Mitch, Mets, Ragian
Wing (1): Mandy

This should be the current VC.

*Tim never actually unvoted me so there's that

Derp. I miscounted.

Firstly, since no one is voting Wing, and since I have already stated that I believe that Mitch is connected to Wing, I unvote vote Mitch

This should be hammer.

[aage]

And per rule 2b Tim not unvoting doesn't matter.

[Ragian]

Mandy's on Mitch surely.

FP'ed by loads.

[BuJaber]

Technically Mets did too.. it's overkill

Anyway.. aage just one question: Right now, without anybody saying anything and before the flip happens, would you be inclined to vote for Doom D3?

[aage]

Technically Mets did too.. it's overkill

Anyway.. aage just one question: Right now, without anybody saying anything and before the flip happens, would you be inclined to vote for Doom D3?

Strange question. It completely depends on Mitch's flip imo. I'm not interested in pressuring Doom into a claim or killing him without that information.

[BuJaber]

Technically Mets did too.. it's overkill

Anyway.. aage just one question: Right now, without anybody saying anything and before the flip happens, would you be inclined to vote for Doom D3?

Strange question. It completely depends on Mitch's flip imo. I'm not interested in pressuring Doom into a claim or killing him without that information.

I am aware the flip can change things. I try to approach every day with a fresh perspective. I'm not trying to decide who to vote for this early.
I just read you as town but apart from mitch we've disagreed on almost everybody else, and for that reason I wanted to gauge your feelings on Doom at this moment in time. I'm hoping it will help me see your perspective and therefore understand your arguments a little better.

[DoomYoshi]

with me and newguy both ending up at the incorrect target happens to be the same person im willing to guess that everyone ended up at the same person so if mitch is claiming he ended at dy and everyone else conveniently ended with greg i feel mitch is lying why hes lying ive not a clue vote mitch. between the lying and dy refusing to say if his action happened i think both mitch and dy are light pairs. add to it that dy from d1 knew that dark was good and light was bad remember his list of reads from d1 it adds to them both being light

Ragian expressed my thought on this, he said multiple times that he didn't know if it ended up there. Hence my pressure on DY, seeing if he was a scum mate that was going to vouch and get them both stuck in a trap. Tim, are you saying that you meant to go to greg, or that you too were redirected? Because if that's the case, there were 3 switches.

I targeted aage, went to greg
I was notified that I ended up targeting greg - 1 bus
Mitch said he went to DY but ended up at greg - 2 bus

If you too are saying that you didn't end up where you wanted to go, then we have a role that's doing several changes, which might make mitch's claim a little more viable. However, if you (Tim) were notified of the switch, as I was, then Mitch is possibly still lying, since he outright admitted he had no notification of where he ended up, and so would be the odd one out.

FP

How come you saw mitch but not Tim?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I am linked to Mitch because I answered your goddamn question Mandy? Piss off. Thats just moronic.

Take your OMGUS vote and shove it.

Oh look you already have cause even you can see your sheer stupidity.

[StorrZerg]

What's up. Anyone wanna chit chat. At work and can't work...

[aage]

What's up. Anyone wanna chit chat. At work and can't work...

Your picks for scummiest Mitch wagoner?

[aage]

What's up. Anyone wanna chit chat. At work and can't work...

Your picks for scummiest Mitch wagoner?

or Mandy wagoner for that matter

[StorrZerg]

What's up. Anyone wanna chit chat. At work and can't work...

Your picks for scummiest Mitch wagoner?

Anyone that voted with a partial claim. Several people.

[new guy1]

with me and newguy both ending up at the incorrect target happens to be the same person im willing to guess that everyone ended up at the same person so if mitch is claiming he ended at dy and everyone else conveniently ended with greg i feel mitch is lying why hes lying ive not a clue vote mitch. between the lying and dy refusing to say if his action happened i think both mitch and dy are light pairs. add to it that dy from d1 knew that dark was good and light was bad remember his list of reads from d1 it adds to them both being light

Ragian expressed my thought on this, he said multiple times that he didn't know if it ended up there. Hence my pressure on DY, seeing if he was a scum mate that was going to vouch and get them both stuck in a trap. Tim, are you saying that you meant to go to greg, or that you too were redirected? Because if that's the case, there were 3 switches.

I targeted aage, went to greg
I was notified that I ended up targeting greg - 1 bus
Mitch said he went to DY but ended up at greg - 2 bus

If you too are saying that you didn't end up where you wanted to go, then we have a role that's doing several changes, which might make mitch's claim a little more viable. However, if you (Tim) were notified of the switch, as I was, then Mitch is possibly still lying, since he outright admitted he had no notification of where he ended up, and so would be the odd one out.

FP

How come you saw mitch but not Tim?

I don't remember confirming or denying the fact that he was at gregwolf last night. Only questioning if he was notified of the change. I brought up what was relevant to the case against Mitch and shared as much about my role as I needed to show things made sense from my perspective, without a full claim.

[StorrZerg]

I want to lynch you tomorrow

[new guy1]

I want to lynch you tomorrow

Why is that?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I want to lynch you tomorrow

Why is that?

I only revealed enough to get Mitch lynched, and definitely not enough for anyone to make a rational informed opinion. And I AM BLOODY PROUD OF IT

Scummiest stuff I've read in a long time

[new guy1]

I want to lynch you tomorrow

Why is that?

I only revealed enough to get Mitch lynched, and definitely not enough for anyone to make a rational informed opinion. And I AM BLOODY PROUD OF IT

Scummiest stuff I've read in a long time

That's hilariously twisted. I had no reason to claim the information that I did besides the fact that I thought it would lead to a profitable (mafia) lynch. He was one of the top candidates, and my information was supposed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he was mafia, or at least lying about his NA. How was I supposed to know that there were either two busdrivers or a person messing with multiple actions at night? I even started letting back when I found out that there was apparently a third busdrive (tim), which is where my specific case against Mitch started to falter. I wasn't anywhere near the tail end of the lynch, which would insinuate a purposeful or accidental hammer (because apparently, someone didn't count the votes before adding theirs and causing a quick lynch). I'm being intentionally vague to keep my identity safe from those who don't already know it (because having even more role claims out at this time helps nobody but mafia), because to be honest, I thought it was pretty clear what I was hinting at my main role was.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Yeah we get it your a watcher, why bother to not just say it clearly? Who does it benefit hiding it in cryptic language anyway?

So clearly you didnt see Tim, so now we have to wonder why you lied about YOUR night action?

Hurts when its directed at you doesnt it.

[StorrZerg]

Man aage I feel so bad for you if you are mafia with these guys lol

[new guy1]

Yeah we get it your a watcher, why bother to not just say it clearly? Who does it benefit hiding it in cryptic language anyway?

So clearly you didnt see Tim, so now we have to wonder why you lied about YOUR night action?

Hurts when its directed at you doesnt it.

Okay buddy.

There were four who visited gregwolf last night, but it benefits US to leave it in secret because if any of these people are mafia, and lie about their night actions, then we have more people that are suspects. If you want these four names, then please, do tell me why. Because for now, I only see the information benefiting mafia in knowing FOUR people's names and knowing they have night actions. We want them targeting the VT's, right? The one's whose job it is to step forward and try to draw shots so that the ones with actions can land evidence on the mafia?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Yeah we get it your a watcher, why bother to not just say it clearly? Who does it benefit hiding it in cryptic language anyway?

So clearly you didnt see Tim, so now we have to wonder why you lied about YOUR night action?

Hurts when its directed at you doesnt it.

Okay buddy.

There were four who visited gregwolf last night, but it benefits US to leave it in secret because if any of these people are mafia, and lie about their night actions, then we have more people that are suspects. If you want these four names, then please, do tell me why. Because for now, I only see the information benefiting mafia in knowing FOUR people's names and knowing they have night actions. We want them targeting the VT's, right? The one's whose job it is to step forward and try to draw shots so that the ones with actions can land evidence on the mafia?

Christ on a bike.

Youve gone from, "I am telling you nothing" to "I will tell you everything", under what? A light interrogation? You cant be lynched today, Mitch already has been.

[StorrZerg]

New guy. I'll give you a hint. Stop half ass claiming for no reason. You want to bread crumb then do that. Mitchell was getting lynched with or without your partial claim it's done absolutely nothing to help town.

So at this point I have to think you are a mafia busing for credit or one of the more moronic players in the game. And that's pretty difficult to be in the top considering whose in the game lol

[madmitch]

What a load of crap! 3 busdriving roles bullshit,number 1 scum,2 is Tim can't spell half the time looks like he can't read also ,I can remove 1 persons action at night, where the Hell to you get busdriving from that,Doom voting for me when I needed his help wow way to step on someone ,mandy with his out of the world claim, just can't believe I got killed , LOOK at who voted for me MOST ARE SCUM