POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 7 Town Win! Premium goes to Sully

[edocsil]

I'm going ahead and put money where my initial thoughts were and vote mandy. I've been wrong so far when playing this game but I get the sense that there might be a push from mandy's scum buddies to shift the vote and pressure away from him and onto edocsil. People who vote third party at this stage seems pretty scummy in my book. From what I've seen from edoc so far it seems like he may have some strange alternate WC like he must make sure there is a lynch every game day, considering the amount of reckless bandwagoning that he has been involved in which seems somewhat out of character.

You aren't to far off the mark here, I also strongly suspect that quite a few of the people on my wagon are scum, another advantage of acting the way I have is the scum will pounce on someone who has acted like myself in a attempt to advance to another night, and yet still appear townish for eliminating a "possible threat" to the town.

[mandalorian2298]

I'm going ahead and put money where my initial thoughts were and vote mandy. I've been wrong so far when playing this game but I get the sense that there might be a push from mandy's scum buddies to shift the vote and pressure away from him and onto edocsil. People who vote third party at this stage seems pretty scummy in my book. From what I've seen from edoc so far it seems like he may have some strange alternate WC like he must make sure there is a lynch every game day, considering the amount of reckless bandwagoning that he has been involved in which seems somewhat out of character.

You aren't to far off the mark here, I also strongly suspect that quite a few of the people on my wagon are scum, another advantage of acting the way I have is the scum will pounce on someone who has acted like myself in a attempt to advance to another night, and yet still appear townish for eliminating a "possible threat" to the town.

Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?

No!

It's WIFOM-man!

[Commander9]

Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?

No!

It's WIFOM-man!

Thanks for dropping by You think you could post a bit more and actually answer some of the questions posed?

[mandalorian2298]

Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?

No!

It's WIFOM-man!

Thanks for dropping by You think you could post a bit more and actually answer some of the questions posed?

Yes.

[Commander9]

Yes.

Awesome.

[edocsil]

I'm going ahead and put money where my initial thoughts were and vote mandy. I've been wrong so far when playing this game but I get the sense that there might be a push from mandy's scum buddies to shift the vote and pressure away from him and onto edocsil. People who vote third party at this stage seems pretty scummy in my book. From what I've seen from edoc so far it seems like he may have some strange alternate WC like he must make sure there is a lynch every game day, considering the amount of reckless bandwagoning that he has been involved in which seems somewhat out of character.

You aren't to far off the mark here, I also strongly suspect that quite a few of the people on my wagon are scum, another advantage of acting the way I have is the scum will pounce on someone who has acted like myself in a attempt to advance to another night, and yet still appear townish for eliminating a "possible threat" to the town.

Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?

No!

It's WIFOM-man!

As helpful as always, at least I don't spout out half assed and wild theories at random.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

edocsil(3)- Falkomagno, streaker, Mass Miracle
strike wolf(3)- PCM, Victor, Saxlad
Mandy(4)- Com9, edocsil, strike wolf, nag
nag(1)- Mandy
Com9(1)- freezie
streaker(1)- tails

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline in 6 days.

[mandalorian2298]

I'm going ahead and put money where my initial thoughts were and vote mandy. I've been wrong so far when playing this game but I get the sense that there might be a push from mandy's scum buddies to shift the vote and pressure away from him and onto edocsil. People who vote third party at this stage seems pretty scummy in my book. From what I've seen from edoc so far it seems like he may have some strange alternate WC like he must make sure there is a lynch every game day, considering the amount of reckless bandwagoning that he has been involved in which seems somewhat out of character.

You aren't to far off the mark here, I also strongly suspect that quite a few of the people on my wagon are scum, another advantage of acting the way I have is the scum will pounce on someone who has acted like myself in a attempt to advance to another night, and yet still appear townish for eliminating a "possible threat" to the town.

Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?

No!

It's WIFOM-man!

As helpful as always, at least I don't spout out half assed and wild theories at random.

And here I thought that the main scummy thing about me in this game has been my bellow-average spouting. It seems that no matter what I do I just can't get any love around here.

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Back, hm didn't expect a deadline this early on, better get to that reread, on that note.

By any chance we could get a deadline? (Perhaps 1 week?) We need to get this moving.

What the heck man? We still have 19 players, day two is only a week in, why are you so set on going to night?
I find this particularly odd on your part since in the similarly large Post-Apocalypse game you're modding, you were pretty lax on the deadlines early on. Even by Day Five you were giving us over three weeks...

[edocsil]

And here I thought that the main scummy thing about me in this game has been my bellow-average spouting. It seems that no matter what I do I just can't get any love around here.

It is. The accusations of wifom really is a below average spouting. Really stretching it there.

[mandalorian2298]

And here I thought that the main scummy thing about me in this game has been my bellow-average spouting. It seems that no matter what I do I just can't get any love around here.

It is. The accusations of wifom really is a below average spouting. Really stretching it there.

Dude, you basically said: "I proclaimed that I am not part of the Town, because I wanted to lure out scum to vote for me because I might present a danger for Town."

This a textbook of WIFOM. Yes, you are more likely to be a danger for Town then any other random player, and the fact that you said it openly doesn't show that you are well-intentioned, it shows you're cocky.

[edocsil]

And here I thought that the main scummy thing about me in this game has been my bellow-average spouting. It seems that no matter what I do I just can't get any love around here.

It is. The accusations of wifom really is a below average spouting. Really stretching it there.

Dude, you basically said: "I proclaimed that I am not part of the Town, because I wanted to lure out scum to vote for me because I might present a danger for Town."

This a textbook of WIFOM. Yes, you are more likely to be a danger for Town then any other random player, and the fact that you said it openly doesn't show that you are well-intentioned, it shows you're cocky.

Cocky I am, but a mistake I am not making. I am no danger to the town. Investigate me if I live, I am innocent. Either I am the dumbest GF in history, or perhaps there is a shred of truth in what I claim. Tell me Mandy, is this more wild then anything you have ever done in a game? I doubt it. I have an interesting role to play in this game and I do not mean to sit back and take the easy road. No matter what happens this game is going to be a riot for me.

[got tonkaed]

The stupid thing is that both mandy and commander are dumb third party roles who arent aligned or they are stupidly competent scum buddies which does no one any good.

The clear lynch today is streaker and the fact that the whole world isnt aware of it boggles my mind.

By all means I am aware of the beautiful necessity of commander and mandy farting around for 7 pages, but the day ends with a streaker lynch, so we should srsly figure out who else is a bad guy.

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Reread, I'm feeling some scum vibes coming off of the strike wagon, and before you accuse me of trying to save a scum buddy or whatever, no, strike isn't in danger of lynch, largely because his wagon fell off the edge of the world shortly after making less than a combined paragraph of relevancy.

I'm going to Vote Strike for my day 1 reasons and for Squirrel's seeming attempt at distancing himself from strike by being adamant about voting him.

That's pretty WIFOM isn't it? Squirrel made two large posts against strike on day one, then said he still found him the most scummy next to fir at the end of the day with the fir wagon going on, Why would he need to distance himself so far on day one, when A: there is no solid info for town to go on, so not being on scum's wagon isn't really much of a tell and B: the votes are spread around, so it wasn't particularly necessary to sacrifice a scum-mate.

For your other reasons which can be found on page 16, essentially it adds up to strike trying to connect comm to victor, I'm not sure I really understand that tell all that well, so I won't go into that part.

But it seems to be important to you, since it is the only justification you gave when voting him three times so far

I'm going to revote strike. I doubt we'll get a lynch today, but he still seems most scummy to me.

I find this sort of thing odd from you, since you usually pile on evidence galore on your suspects, but this game just sounds like a vague spooky echo, and don't say you don't have any time, internet chess?

victor's reason

vote strike wolf - I still find him scummy from yesterday.

the reason yesterday seems to also be the arguing with comm thing.


Sax's reason

Finally I am not sure I believe edoc or not. His behavior is different than any time I've seen him in the past and the reasons given are very vague beyond stating he is not town aligned. Usually id have no hesitance about questioning an admittedly non-town role where specifics are hazy however I feel questioning him at the present time will likeely not prove fruitful so I will let it rest momentarily.

Sorry, that has got my vote completely, letting it rest? Thats a great way to take the pressure off edoc, I don't think he'll answer so I won't even bother. Anyway wasn't that what you were calling Mandy out for earlier in your post? It warrants a massive vote from me.

vote strike wolf

for not pressuring edoc more?
While at the same time saying, he personally doesn't think edoc can be pressured so screw it?

I am quite suspect of sax's actions
so far it has consisted of
Joke votes and nonsense until just before the deadline.
telling falko to hurry up and claim
Hopping the fir wagon with no explanation of his own
Hopping the strike wagon right after there were two votes on him that page
and then disappearing despite being active elsewhere

Vote Sax

[sheepofdumb]

Read half the thread so far. Probably will finish catching up tomorrow.
vote pancake for probably doing something scummy.

[strike wolf]

I'm interested in hearing tonka's reasoning for both Commander and Mandy being third party. Considering we seem to be at a stalemate here with 3 on Edoc, 3 on me, and 4 on mandy, and some spread out, I wouldn't be against pressuring someone other than mandy to try to kick start discussion in a way that would move forward rather than the stale mate round about that we seem to have developed right now and I certainly wouldn't be against a streaker lynch the way he's played this game. However at this point I still think mandy is the better choice.

For the people on the edoc wagon, I wouldn't be against someone tracking or investigating edoc (though I don't feel we should waste both investigative roles on him so don't know how that should work out) but I do not think he warrants a vote right now. There are at least three people who have acted more suspiciously and are more likely to be actual scum than edoc. So regardless of third party claim, the actions taken against edoc appear more misdirecting than leading towards a positive lynch.

For the people who are still on my wagon, Pancake, I can't speculate on Squirrel's reasons. you provided a wifom argument and any reply I may give to try to explain his actions would just be further wifom. As for your "day 1 reasons" I gave a response to them yesterday, if you did not like them rebut them but I won't restate my reasons unless you can provide something solid that you feel I didn't cover or create an argument for an answer you did not like. Sax, your reasoning for voting me was on a false accusation, you accuse me of voting for mandy for the same thing I was doing with the letting the pressure off. I provided reason for why that was a false allegation. I told you my reason for disbelieving mandy was based on his wide understanding of a game early on when he appeared overly confident about various people's guilt/game setup. I do not see why any townie early in day 1 would have that kind of insight into the game that quickly. You apparently thought or at the very least tried to construe my reasons for my suspicions was about letting people off the hook it was a false accusation. As far as Edoc, yes I've stated a few times that I do not believe he was the most suspicious person and there are bigger fish out there. So no I didn't feel pressuring him was the most constructive argument for us to follow day 2. Victor, like sax I pointed out how your initial argument was based on flawed logic and heavy speculation and you have yet to really provide any solid evidence for your case on me, surprisingly as voting me and restating that you will not unvote me have so far been your only true contributions to the game.

Beyond that, I may have to reread this thread again...

[Commander9]

And here I thought that the main scummy thing about me in this game has been my bellow-average spouting. It seems that no matter what I do I just can't get any love around here.

To be fair, if you'd actually answer the questions posed to you and be contributing instead of having an extreme version of tunnel vision right from Day 1 and wouldn't be so scummy, you'd probably get more love

Back, hm didn't expect a deadline this early on, better get to that reread, on that note.

By any chance we could get a deadline? (Perhaps 1 week?) We need to get this moving.

What the heck man? We still have 19 players, day two is only a week in, why are you so set on going to night?
I find this particularly odd on your part since in the similarly large Post-Apocalypse game you're modding, you were pretty lax on the deadlines early on. Even by Day Five you were giving us over three weeks...

Well, I didn't want this game to turn out like my Apocalypse game where I've got to send one prod after another. I've wanted activity - and I got it... 1 week is more than enough if people will be posting. (Heck, even you started posting now ) Also, I know when mistakes were done and from now on, I think that all of my games will have 2 week deadlines.

The stupid thing is that both mandy and commander are dumb third party roles who arent aligned or they are stupidly competent scum buddies which does no one any good.

The clear lynch today is streaker and the fact that the whole world isnt aware of it boggles my mind.

By all means I am aware of the beautiful necessity of commander and mandy farting around for 7 pages, but the day ends with a streaker lynch, so we should srsly figure out who else is a bad guy.

By any chance you'd be willing to provide some support for this? If you would not mind, please explain how I've been scummy and why both me and Mandy are 3rd party?

Streaker would be a good lynch (my #2, in fact), but I think that mandy is a much better lynch.

I'm interested in hearing tonka's reasoning for both Commander and Mandy being third party. Considering we seem to be at a stalemate here with 3 on Edoc, 3 on me, and 4 on mandy, and some spread out, I wouldn't be against pressuring someone other than mandy to try to kick start discussion in a way that would move forward rather than the stale mate round about that we seem to have developed right now and I certainly wouldn't be against a streaker lynch the way he's played this game. However at this point I still think mandy is the better choice.

Pretty much my thoughts. Furthermore, both of them seem aligned, so if one of them would turn out to be scum, I'm pretty sure that so would the other one.

[Victor Sullivan]

2. Victor, like sax I pointed out how your initial argument was based on flawed logic and heavy speculation and you have yet to really provide any solid evidence for your case on me, surprisingly as voting me and restating that you will not unvote me have so far been your only true contributions to the game.

Strike wolf, strike wolf, streak golf... Who else is there? Your constant rambling seems like a way to effectively cover-up your scumminess, because "silence is scummy" so you have to be all herky-derky and write a 5 page essay on why Mandy seems scummy or how edocsil is using WIFOM logic (yes, I know it was mandy that accused him of that, but you get my vibe, I think...)

The case on Mandy seems weak - it could have easily been a lapse in judgement - scum wouldn't be so foolish as to associate themselves with their scummates, that gets more than one of them killed in the end if one is ousted.

Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.

[Commander9]

Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.

Mandy's scumminess does not have anything to do with you.

[pancakemix]

I'm going to revote strike. I doubt we'll get a lynch today, but he still seems most scummy to me.

I find this sort of thing odd from you, since you usually pile on evidence galore on your suspects, but this game just sounds like a vague spooky echo, and don't say you don't have any time, internet chess?

Those posts aren't exactly quick to write. Compare to one chess move, which takes like 10 minutes tops.

I'll admit, I haven't paid as much attention to this thread as I could have. If you'd like I can write something, but I doubt I'll be able to get it up this game day. I actually WON'T have time these next few weeks (end of the semester and whatnot), so to find time to write a post like that is unlikely.

And I feel like I made a pretty clear case yesterday on strike, but I will say I find Streaker and Mandy off. They'll probably be the subjects of any grand post I make. Edoc is an odd case, but I doubt I'd be opposed to his lynch.

[strike wolf]

Umm what?

So basically a bunch of nonsense case about me and something you mention that mandy not me did? I don't think I did either of those things you mentioned...are you refering to fircoal's long post when you mnention the 5 page essay? I'm honestly confused here. Honestly that paragraph had no coherency to it.

[Victor Sullivan]

Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.

Mandy's scumminess does not have anything to do with you.

Brutal misinterpretation again, Commander... I never said mandy had anything to do with you. I said the same argument I used for Mandy's not being scum could be applied to your case from yesterday.

[Commander9]

Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.

Mandy's scumminess does not have anything to do with you.

Brutal misinterpretation again, Commander... I never said mandy had anything to do with you. I said the same argument I used for Mandy's not being scum could be applied to your case from yesterday.

Can you explain then?

[Victor Sullivan]

Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.

Mandy's scumminess does not have anything to do with you.

Brutal misinterpretation again, Commander... I never said mandy had anything to do with you. I said the same argument I used for Mandy's not being scum could be applied to your case from yesterday.

Can you explain then?

[strike wolf]

Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.

Mandy's scumminess does not have anything to do with you.

Brutal misinterpretation again, Commander... I never said mandy had anything to do with you. I said the same argument I used for Mandy's not being scum could be applied to your case from yesterday.

Can you explain then?

I find this ironic...