The Murder Of Albarezzi- End Game- Mafia Wins!

[Anarkistsdream]

I just ask for one thing - if I'll be lynched and turn innocent, please, please take a look at Nark/Drabod (likely Safari as well, but I he's not as suspicious as those two). I've really said everything that I can and you can now judge me by my actions and claim. Even if I'll be lynched, please look back at my previous posts (and this one) to make your judgement and don't blindly follow our "masons."

Then why did you come up scum, unless you were framed and we just happened to choose you the same night?

[safariguy5]

I just ask for one thing - if I'll be lynched and turn innocent, please, please take a look at Nark/Drabod (likely Safari as well, but I he's not as suspicious as those two). I've really said everything that I can and you can now judge me by my actions and claim. Even if I'll be lynched, please look back at my previous posts (and this one) to make your judgement and don't blindly follow our "masons."

Then why did you come up scum, unless you were framed and we just happened to choose you the same night?

Does it really matter at this point? If he doesn't turn innocent, then it's a moot point.

[DoomYoshi]

Yea but I am not sure I trust drabod. Not that I trust commander either, I just want to get a bit more info from him before he is lynched.

[Commander9]

Why are you 100% that pcm is the governor commander?

When did I say I was 100% sure? I've just put my opinion which I believe to be true more so than others. I don't technically know any of the other roles...

Then why did you come up scum, unless you were framed and we just happened to choose you the same night?

What exactly do you expect me here to say? "Oh, I know that PCM is actually framer and he framed last night?" Your guess is as good as mine (although I think we both know the answer why Drabod claimed that I was scum, especially after a significant pause).

[nagerous]

Just read through this entire thread and it took a long long time, a lot of arguments, a lot of bandwagons, a lot of claims and scum caught at the end of the day! I was pretty surprised/impressed.

Anyway, last night I investigated VioIet unfortunately, so that is pretty useless. I got the same message that pancakemix got that I shouldn't trust VioIet and upon investigating her I was informed that she was mafia, but obviously this was part of her role flavour.

The case against commander is strong, so vote commander, putting him at L-1. I don't really buy his roleblocker claim and If he does turn out to be town his lynch won't do any serious damage to the town and then obviously we will cross-examine drabod and anark the next day phase. I am however, confused as to whether they are masons or they are lovers? Nark talked about them being lovers on day one and now he is referring them to having talked in the night, which is not within the role capacity of a lover pair. Me and edoc were masons and it seems unlikely that there would be two pairs.

I am therefore not convinced by Nark's status as a townie yet I am more convinced by Drabod at this moment in time (unless commander shows up in the lynch as town). There are a few things about Nark that have struck me as odd including his attitude towards the close lynch of Victor day 1 and some of the brash statements he made when then under investigation such as his fake claim as bomb, he kept referring to 'taking down someone with him,' it didn't really seem very caring for Drabod, the other half of the JOAT lover pair, I wouldn't be surprised if he is the bad lover and his killing of VioIet doesn't exonnerate him in any way.

Elsewhere, in regards to DoomYoshi and maybe I missed something in my rapid reading but from what I can tell the alleged story of events is scum targetted safari, doom protected edoc, safari switched edoc and himself? That was a pretty stupid bus drive by safari in my opinion, switching himself, one claimed townie for another. He should've switched with one of the unkowns and it doesn't make me overly confident in his busdriving and his town allegience but as I said correct me if I've missed something here.

[pancakemix]

So here's my thinking:

Suppose this is a lie. That means Nark and Drabod are scum for sure. That would mean that there were certainly 2 scum groups because a 4-man scum group with 2 kills is too powerful, obviously. I'm going to assume that safari's the other scum here, so that would put us in a situation of 4:2:1, 2 kills in a worst case scenario, leaving us at 2:2:1 and now we're in an interesting position. Lynch Safari, town is endgamed. Safari won't try to quicklynch a townie, he'll die the next night. Lynch a Mallini (Nark or Drabod), then the mafia kill both townies, it's a draw. They kill one townie, the other holds out, stalemate. They get stopped on both, the townies hold out, stalemate. They could risk killing each other and getting the win, but there's the chance of cross killing and then town wins. Say only one townie dies. 3:2:1. Same thing, more people. We lynch a Mallini, force a draw at best. No kills, we lynch safari. 4:2 breaks down to 2:1 after a few actions and town wins. Say it turns out 3:2, 3:1:1, or 4:1 with crosskills. Then it's lynch the right people and we win. Safari's busdrive is a wild card, but it always works out to a stalemate/risk scenario, at least as far as I have it figured.

On the other hand, suppose it's the truth. That clears Drabod, we lynch safari, and if the game's not over, we lynch nark. I'll take those odds. Vote commander

If there are any elements I don't know about or drabod's telling the truth AND he's scum, we're already screwed. Here goes.

[spiesr]

Elsewhere, in regards to DoomYoshi and maybe I missed something in my rapid reading but from what I can tell the alleged story of events is scum targetted safari, doom protected edoc, safari switched edoc and himself? That was a pretty stupid bus drive by safari in my opinion, switching himself, one claimed townie for another. He should've switched with one of the unkowns and it doesn't make me overly confident in his busdriving and his town allegience but as I said correct me if I've missed something here.

He was instructed not to switch the unclaimeds with anyone as AD's group was supposed to kill at least one of them.

I just ask for one thing - if I'll be lynched and turn innocent, please, please take a look at Nark/Drabod (likely Safari as well, but I he's not as suspicious as those two). I've really said everything that I can and you can now judge me by my actions and claim. Even if I'll be lynched, please look back at my previous posts (and this one) to make your judgement and don't blindly follow our "masons."

Then why did you come up scum, unless you were framed and we just happened to choose you the same night?

Since he thinks that you are Drabod may be scum isn't it logical that he thinks Drabod is simply lying about the investigation?
Or perhaps he has lost his sanity upon the approach of the apocalypse?

[TheSaxlad]

Vote Count

1. Nark
2. Commander (5-drab, safari,nark,pcm nagerous)
3. Pancake
4. Safari
5. spiesr
6 drabod
7 nagerous
8 Yoshi

8 Alive, 5 To Lynch.

LYNCH!!! Scene Coming Soon.

[TheSaxlad]

After the Jubilation of killing the mafia godfather, the town believed themselves to be on a roll. Nagerous and a few others contributed to the arguments over flavor for the first part of the day, however while they were chatting, drabod was hurrying to town hall. Something he had learned was playing on his night. After he entered the town hall it only took a couple of words to turn the town against commander.

“He’s the mafia, lynch him!”

“Hey we should follow the cop”

“Yeah let’s get him”

Even as commander tried to run they were upon him, and instead of dragging him to the gallows, the town mauled him to death, before hanging his dead body. Bursting open the door of his house, it didn’t take them long to find the proof they had been looking for.

Commander9 Mafia Recruiter Ehno Giordano is dead.

Night 2 Will be 48-72 hours or shorter depending on how quick actions come in.

However the Bar will be open tonight, even if everyone is already slightly inebriated.

[Commander9]

Just a quick thought (I'll leave more after it's over) - is it really fun to do a mass claim on day 1? I still don't like the way these games are going whether I am town or scum - it takes the thought and intelligence out of the game, thus I will not say gg.

Also Sax, not bad for the first try, but I do think it was a bit unbalanced. I'll definitely join the next one.

[safariguy5]

Holy crap, mafia recruiter. That means there's at least 1 more mafia out there.

[nagerous]

Holy crap, mafia recruiter. That means there's at least 1 more mafia out there.

You should know better than not to post at night.

[TheSaxlad]

Nagerous its fine, it part of my modding. See the rules

12. At night all villagers retire to the bar. Drinks orders and whatnot are fine, but chat relevant to the game doesnt start off till the next day.

[edocsil]

Kudos guys, just wanted to say I am avidly following the thread, something I usually don't do when I die N1.

[TheSaxlad]

Ok, I believe I have all the night actions in. I will post the scene sometime tonight or tomorrow. Thursday is not a good day...

Thanks.

[TheSaxlad]

That night once again all the villagers jumped into the pub for a drink and a chat. The new person in town didn’t know all the rules and sought to shut the rest of them up, providing a sharp rebuke from the barkeeper, but it mattered not, because everyone drank and was merry.

I say everyone… the man who had been approached in the last night was standing outside having a fag, suddenly he felt a tap on his shoulder. Whirling round fearing the worst, he was confronted by doomyoshi. “Hey im here to protect you tonight”

“protect me tonight? Haven’t you got better things to do?”

“like what?!”

“perhaps protecting someone else, who you are supposed to be protecting”

“who you on about?”

“yourself!”

And before doomyoshi could do anything he was knocked out cold by the man, and subtly strangled to death before he regained consciousness.

DoomYoshi Town Doctor Zanebono De Vincente is dead

Day 3 Go.

[Anarkistsdream]

I didn't know who to kill this time guys, so that's obviously mafia.

So, unless we have another killer who got roleblocked, I'm the only other killer besides the mafia.

[pancakemix]

Holy crap, mafia recruiter. That means there's at least 1 more mafia out there.

^^Yeah, that.

Nag, Drabod, what did you do?

[safariguy5]

I'm guessing only 1 mafia left. Let's hope we got lucky on the investigations.

[Drabod]

This night i tracked, Spieser ..... And he went nowhere....

[spiesr]

So safariguy, did you switch anyone last night?
Don't JOATs usually have their abilities be one shot? Is that the case in this game with Drabod?

Commander9 Mafia Recruiter Ehno Giordano is dead.

Is the fact that Commander's name was not Albarezzi significant?

That night Albarezzi, his wife and one son were murdered in their beds leaving his other son and brother alive.

The opening scene says that the son and brother of Albarezzi were alive and presumably constitute the (original members of the) mafia faction. / is listed as Julio Albarezzi Jn, so that takes care of the son. Is Ehno Giordano supposed to be Albrarezzi senior's brother? Or is there yet another guy out there?
So anyhow, we lynched a recruited yesterday. So now how do we proceed? The mafia's recruit could be anyone, even (perhaps especially) those who had solid claims.

I'm guessing only 1 mafia left. Let's hope we got lucky on the investigations.

More importantly let's hope that our investigator hasn't been co-opted by the mafia.

This night i tracked, Spieser ..... And he went nowhere....

Yep, no point in going anywhere, you can't run away from the end of the world...

[safariguy5]

Yeah, I switched myself with Nark.

Here's my thought though, the most likely people that the mafia would recruit would probably be either a cop or the vig. To me, that means that the highest probability of being recruited is Nark, Nag, or drabod. Pending nag telling us who he investigated, I'm inclined to believe that it's not Nark because he didn't NK anyone. I deliberately switched myself with him because I figured that out of all the remaining people, if he really did become recruited, I would probably be the most likely person he could NK and still say "he played scummy to me". drabod I have no way of confirming nor nag. But I'm pretty sure Nark wasn't recruited.

[nagerous]

This night i tracked, Spieser ..... And he went nowhere....

Sorry, if you said already but what can you do as your JOAT, do you have a doctors protection too?

I investigated spiesr and he came out innocent.

I will have to say that with the recruiter, spiesr and drabod are probably the only 'clear' townies.

Drabod because I just don't see him pulling off a move like ratting out the scum recruiter to clear his own name and if he did kudos on a ridiculously bold strategy and spiesr because I have been told he is clear and if you don't believe my evidence there is also drabod's evidence that he didn't go anywhere which fits with spiesr's claim..

I would like to say I don't think Nark is cleared just because we have his word that he didn't kill anyone.. he might have killed yoshi for all we know. The fact that there was only one death this night and two the night before could even be used against him if he was recruited during night 1 by commander as he would then be the sole killer and would essentially be sending the mafia kill.

[pancakemix]

6 players remain. I want to say there are two scum left because there are two Albarezzi (from flavor). That's LYLO, so we need to be cautious. Let's break this down:

Nark: I think Nark would have killed last night if he were scum. 4:2 is favorable to 3:2 for town, which means the opposite is true for scum. This could get WIFOMy, but I won't go there.

Me: I know I'm town.

Safari: I have not had a reason all game to trust him. I think he's our Albarezzi.

Spiesr: The hard evidence clears him. Only in a convoluted scenario in which spiesr is pretending to be crazy and nag is his recruit could he be scum. Highly unlikely.

Drabod: I think nag's logic is right about Drabod. Unless you don't know, it's pretty ballsy to kill your ticket to victory.

Nag: I can't see a reason why he wouldn't be recruited. If you're mafia and you can recruit the cop it's very advisable to do so.

I'd say nag and safari are the most likely candidates, but I don't want to rush anything. Thoughts?

[nagerous]

Nark: I think Nark would have killed last night if he were scum. 4:2 is favorable to 3:2 for town, which means the opposite is true for scum. This could get WIFOMy, but I won't go there.



Nag: I can't see a reason why he wouldn't be recruited. If you're mafia and you can recruit the cop it's very advisable to do so.

My theory on nark was that if he had been recruited then he wouldn't be able to use his vig kill as otherwise that would over-power the scum. Regardless, I am not keen on lynching him as the fallout with Drabod's death if we're wrong would be too brutal..

Your points on me are WIFOM. I would say one thing in my defence though, it would be a bit of a bold strategy to recruit someone who is a mason and kill off his partner. If it had gone wrong and edoc had survived, which was perfectly likely with all the bus driving and doctoring that was going about then the mafia's recruit would've been straight to the lynch. I don't see why the mafia would've recruited me because of this factor. Nark on the other hand was a lover not a mason and therefore he would be a more interesting prospect.

However, the person I am kind of most suspicious about at the moment is You. I do have a theory that if you were recruited you would lose your governor powers, so if you can stop your own lynch today then you can effectively prove your innocence. If you can't stop your lynch then it means you're scum so it is a win win situation. (I am a bit rusty though so please correct me if it is common practice that governors can't stop their own lynch??)