The Tick Mafia - JUSTICE PREVAILS!

[swang918]

so Loose has double voting power after having 0 voting power.

This leads me back to thinking Loose is town and not 3p. 3p wouldn't have such a role, right?

I think we need to also consider the smoke show. My take is that Loose has the ability to save himself by the smoke show. So is that a town type ability? I'm leaning that it is toward scum. Also think of the double vote. If a scum had that ability, used properly, someone could be at L-2 and Loose could double vote and hammer before anyone else could do anything about it. It still reads scum to me.

It's an insanely powerful ability for scum to have. Too powerful to really balance. Therefore, I'm back to thinking Loose is not scum. There's almost no way to balance a scum with that much strength even if the double vote is only every other day.

So Loose's voting ability is probably like 0-2-0-2 I think. I don't agree that he's so powerful that it rules out scum. The smoke show could be a one shot ability. The double vote to hammer trick that Duke suggested would effectively be one shot because if he uses it to hammer a town we would just Lynch him the next day.

[swang918]

Also Charle please continue to share your thoughts when you have them. Your kill may have been random as others have said but I find it very possible you were onto something Day 1 and that's why you were targeted. Getting knowledge and opinions into the thread is the most important thing.

I think Charle is scared to post because he was contributing a decent amount on D1 and then got whacked right away lol. Don't worry Charle if you get killed again tonight we'll just get degaston to mod-kill bax and sub you in again.

[SoN!c]

Listen Loose about the "not helping".

You mean im not helping you.

You have already a core group of vocal players that is helping you enough, always so quickly to chalk things up on your defence.

Let's pull back to a few key events:

Key event 1: the murder of Dr. Mung-Mung

Doc posted prior to his death that he had 2 suspects on his list, you and Pix..and that very night he got murdered..

All to quickly a core group of vocal players chalked it up and said "pure randomness". No there was nothing random about the murder of Doc.

But the chalk-talk did his job, some bought it, and the murder of Doc is already forgotten it seems, not one of the core group of vocal players wanted to dig any further into it. On a clue that big.

Key event 2: You used a smokebomb (during the day) and became untargetable / invulnerable to lynching for the rest of the day..

Surely that says "scum ability"?

But again all to quickly a core group of vocal players chalked it up and said "too powerfull ability to be scum, he must be townie".

So i'll sit this one out. It's getting Too Chalky in here. Not my favorite colour. Unless on a Pumkin Spice latte.

[Darin44]

Now let see if I can make since of all this. we all voting pix On a joke get to 8 so he can claim. loose has a no vote so lets not make him claim but jump to loose with no vote. so we get no claim than not vote loose out

first person to unvote pix
FOS
loose
SoN!c
Pix

I try to keep up with this every day must if the time it confusing
thats my thought for now

[Extreme Ways]

Sonic once again misinterpreting words. Still unsure about him.

I also want to be very clear on something. If any of the other more vocal players had had Loose's role (and would be open about it, D2), they would be 100% town. It's just that Loose's play is so incredibly scummy that it's borderline impossible not to consider other options.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Agreed. I'm simply calling him a loon because the things he has said... well it's like a murderer yelling "LOOK! IM WEARING CHARLES CORPSE AS A HOOD ORNAMENT! ARREST ME OFFICER!"
Just...lmao. Goofy game.

[DirtyDishSoap]

So can we not focus on Pixar himself and actually focus the wagon? I did get an OMGUS vote, that i missed. I'm positive that at least 1 or 2 pushed it. The problem being is that we have some really dead weight players in here, and were currently all over the place. A little unity here would go a long ways.

No one else finds Pepe to be suspicious? I know we're all waiting on Raz but without him posting, that discussion is coming to a screeching halt.

[Extreme Ways]

So can we not focus on Pixar himself and actually focus the wagon? I did get an OMGUS vote, that i missed. I'm positive that at least 1 or 2 pushed it. The problem being is that we have some really dead weight players in here, and were currently all over the place. A little unity here would go a long ways.

No one else finds Pepe to be suspicious? I know we're all waiting on Raz but without him posting, that discussion is coming to a screeching halt.

I find Pepe's reasoning to be weird, but not scum per se.

We can explore multiple avenues at once. Unfortunately for us, dega sorts votes alphabetically rather than in vote order. I'm on a train for commute so will get what I can out there. This is far from conclusive because with my shitty internet I cannot navigate all the posts very well.

We have the following list: Charle (former cop), Darin44, DukeHazzard, fusibaseball, General Bax, Maxleod, PepeAtila, SoN!c.

Charle died as confirmed town. Fusi I have good feelings about, he is town to me. Bax is Bax, the man is unreadable for other reasons.

Sonic immediatelt unvoted and voted Loose when that came up. I hate his playstyle and definitely do not consider him very town, but neither do I get the idea that he is scum. He pushes buttons and twists words probably not to the benefit of town. He's also very pushy and every road is a deep tunnel. I think sonic is most likely 3P, but find him hard to read.

Duke first mentioned this:

I must say that all this coming out about loose, it's very interesting and gives us something to discuss. I'm leaning on the side of he's town with that role. I also think that the 0 vote - 2 vote alternating days makes the most sense to me out of all the possibilities.

Having said that, Pix has used this to avoid claiming. When I voted for him, I didn't actually think he was scummy. But now, his avoidance, and seemingly hoping we would forget about him, makes me feel that he is scummy. I get that he's also using the joke wagon excuse to not take this seriously, but then that also seems scummy. Why not just come clean and claim? Like he's supposed to. Unless he has something to hide...

Pix?

Soon after he unvoted. I kinda actually agree with Duke here, especially considering that Duke is newish to mafia, When you are taught the ground rule of 'you claim at L-2' and someone doesn't, that reeks of foul play.c

Darin. Posts dont give me much, could be scum depending on vote order. My internet kinda died so no further pre-work analysis

[Razorvich]

LOL I'm here....

Seems you lot missed me lots

I don't have anything to report from night 1, got a lot of reading to do to catch up.

have booked some time off work from 30 September, hopefully I will be still alive by that time.

So after a quick skim, I see that Ragian is out to get me... hmmmm.

Are you going to change your vote now that I have posted, or is this part of a win condition to have me lynched?

[SoN!c]

Now let see if I can make since of all this. we all voting pix On a joke get to 8 so he can claim. loose has a no vote so lets not make him claim but jump to loose with no vote. so we get no claim than not vote loose out

first person to unvote pix
FOS
loose
SoN!c
Pix

I try to keep up with this every day must if the time it confusing
thats my thought for now

I unvoted Pix because:
A) the bandwagon was designed to put a little pressure out to get some intel going and,
B) i followed Fusi on the better lead on Loose that the bandwagon provided.

Loose being Voteless reads Scum/Third Party to me. Town's biggest asset is the ability to share information and vote. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but seems like most voteless roles would not be Town-aligned.
Why are we solo-voting for a player when the vote doesn't even count?

Then along the path the case against Loose got stronger and stronger.

Also Loose stated already he was not gonna claim by making his "MIGHT" post:

Regarding my vote not counting yes I knew.
I'm not going to spell out my identity even if the votes try to force a claim on me on day 1.
My identity MIGHT become clearer IF I survive this day and night.

Why is that? Why won't Loose claim if he is town?

Doc got killed and he had 2 persons as a suspect. Pix and Loose. I strongly believe at least one of them is scum and i believe that scummy to be Loose.

Charle wrote:
Reading through all of this over and over and in short I tend to agree with Sonic (who I think is cop anyway) ... it seems that Loose is defending Pixar both Mafia. I have a feeling that Loose's current "no vote" is going to hit us somehow and sometime very hard.

I keep my vote as is for reason.

Also in a crazy game like The Tick having the ability to use a smokebomb and dissapear from the lynching crowd sounds vilain.

The mod news announcement stated that very claerly; he escaped the lynch (that means he was getting about to get lynched by townies):

But suddenly, in a stunning turn of events, as Loose was being led to the gallows to jeers and the occasional throwing of an overripe tomato, seemingly from out of nowhere, a cloud of thick smoke enveloped him. Once the smoke had cleared, Loose was nowhere to be seen.

Mod news announcement op page 16 by degaston on Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:52 pm

Explain that to me if Loose was no vilain?? - using a smokebomb just like the Evil Midnight bomber - how would that be possible? To escape from townies if you are town yourself? No way

Then lastly, i also agree with DDS: The problem being is that we have:
A) some really dead weight players in here.
B) some fast scrollers it seams that don't read everything..getting to wrong conclusions by not getting the whole context

This makes it way more easy for the scum to do and act without too many critical questions getting posed.

I get Ragian, he wants to get Raz in the game by voting him.. but going on a bandwagon on Raz is not the way forward. It's just more "devide and conquer" while we need unity now. Getting a bw going on Raz seems so fishy to me so everybody getting on Raz (after Ragian)...hmmm

So explain to me that -if Loose is no vilain- how could he escape a lynching town mob using a smokebomb? And why won't Loose claim.?

If Loose claims town could return to peace and unity.

[Loose Canon]

Guys read Swangs posts the way I read them.
Swangs MO is blending in.
Blending in is what scum do.

[SoN!c]

Guys read Swangs posts the way I read them.
Swangs MO is blending in.
Blending in is what scum do.

Again a trivial post but not answering the important question.

The mod news announcement (Mod news announcement op page 16 by degaston on Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:52 pm) stated very clearly that you escaped a lynch by townies:

But suddenly, in a stunning turn of events, as Loose was being led to the gallows to jeers and the occasional throwing of an overripe tomato, seemingly from out of nowhere, a cloud of thick smoke enveloped him. Once the smoke had cleared, Loose was nowhere to be seen.

Care to explain that Loose?

- using a smokebomb just like the Evil Midnight bomber? How would that be possible Loose? To escape from townies if you are town yourself? I'd like to hear it

[DirtyDishSoap]

LOL I'm here....

Seems you lot missed me lots

I don't have anything to report from night 1, got a lot of reading to do to catch up.

have booked some time off work from 30 September, hopefully I will be still alive by that time.

So after a quick skim, I see that Ragian is out to get me... hmmmm.

Are you going to change your vote now that I have posted, or is this part of a win condition to have me lynched?

Wtf is this? A confirmed cop or just really superfluous garbage?

Either way, this is a bullshit post.

Unvote vote Razor

[SoN!c]

I got a nice vid on the smokebomb:

https://www.youtubetrimmer.com/view/?v=KkzptjhCkbs&start=66&end=107&loop=0KkzptjhCkbs&start=66&end=107&loop=0

Also MIGHT and MidnIGHT seems a clue?. (Loose said he posted clues to his identity in his posts at that time).

[Razorvich]

LOL I'm here....

Seems you lot missed me lots

I don't have anything to report from night 1, got a lot of reading to do to catch up.

have booked some time off work from 30 September, hopefully I will be still alive by that time.

So after a quick skim, I see that Ragian is out to get me... hmmmm.

Are you going to change your vote now that I have posted, or is this part of a win condition to have me lynched?

Wtf is this? A confirmed cop or just really superfluous garbage?

Either way, this is a bullshit post.

Unvote vote Razor

well shit what do you want me to say

voting for me is a bad call... I am not the one to be looking at here

[Razorvich]

the scum are laughing at us all because the heat is suddenly on me

[PepeAtila]

Thanks for the answer about Masons (DDS and s_wolf).
/
Just for curiosity
Unvote vote Loose

[DirtyDishSoap]

Thanks for the answer about Masons (DDS and s_wolf).
/
Just for curiosity
Unvote vote Loose

You skimmed.

Clarification: Loose can still talk, but he can't be lynched today.

Carry on

[Ragian]

LOL I'm here....

Seems you lot missed me lots

I don't have anything to report from night 1, got a lot of reading to do to catch up.

have booked some time off work from 30 September, hopefully I will be still alive by that time.

So after a quick skim, I see that Ragian is out to get me... hmmmm.

Are you going to change your vote now that I have posted, or is this part of a win condition to have me lynched?

Wtf is this? A confirmed cop or just really superfluous garbage?

Either way, this is a bullshit post.

Unvote vote Razor

well shit what do you want me to say

voting for me is a bad call... I am not the one to be looking at here

You know...your thoughts on the game so far. You promised contribution. It never came. I voted you. Nothing happened. Several voted you. You posted nothing and a weird OMGUS accusation that I want your blood when all I want is you contributing. That's why the heat is on you.

To disarm your votees, play the game. State your opinions. Back them up with your reading of people's posts.

[Loose Canon]

This smoke bomb thing was NOT I repeat NOT in the abilities I was given by Degaston.
And in case you are hard of hearing Sonic - I repeat NOT/IN NO WAY/NADA in the abilities I was given by Degaston.
And also for the avoidance of doubt - I have no idea how it happened.

Swang is Mafia, Swang is Scum, Swang has my Vote.

[*Pixar*]

This smoke bomb thing was NOT I repeat NOT in the abilities I was given by Degaston.
And in case you are hard of hearing Sonic - I repeat NOT/IN NO WAY/NADA in the abilities I was given by Degaston.
And also for the avoidance of doubt - I have no idea how it happened.

Swang is Mafia, Swang is Scum, Swang has my Vote.

I believe that. Someone seems to be framing him as a bad guy. Starts piling up votes, someone uses ability on him to stop the votes, giving us a reason to point all fingers and lynch him tomorrow. In the back of my mind I thought having multiple powerful abilities would not be feasible. And no Son!c I'm not backing up my scum buddy

[degaston]

Vote Count: (Now in vote order!)

Razorvich : 5 (Ragian, *Pixar*, Extreme Ways, traffic133, DirtyDishSoap)
swang918 : 2 (Loose Canon x 2)
Loose Canon : 0 ()

No Vote : 12 (Charle, Darin44, DukeHazzard, fusibaseball, General Bax, Maxleod, PepeAtila, Razorvich, SoN!c, strike wolf, swang918, TrafalgarLaw01)

18 Alive, 10 votes needed to lynch

[strike wolf]

But if it's not your ability Loose then why not say so immediately after it happened? You've had multiple posts before this one where you could have pointed that out but didn't.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

But if it's not your ability Loose then why not say so immediately after it happened? You've had multiple posts before this one where you could have pointed that out but didn't.

This. I thouugh if it was Loose Doing or not? After almost a whole day passed and he said nothing so I guessed it was his ability.

I thought before Lose was not scum cause he was voteless, I assumed he was a kind of odd voteless and he indeed was with 2 votes on the other day. That was kind of expected (Unless had he been a thief which didnt happened). Then I though why would a 3rd party have such power a third party objective is usually to survive don't matter the faction. So if u have such a power as double vote and voteless u wold draw so much the attention that would make it hard to not be killed or lynched i think. So he should have been townie.

But then we have the smoke show and whats even worse Loose seeking after the cop and not saying things right away. He has not helped town at all even when he said we would find in D2 why it would be benefitial not to lynch him D1, yes having double vote would really help town i he was more in line trying to find scum rather than find cop.

So I cannot figure if Loose is mafia, 3party or Town. His ability would fit and help town but his doing says otherwise, so unless he manages to explain all that has been going on and what he has said, I also would be willing to lynch him d3.

PS: Razor promised a post, dissapear, then appears says he has nothing to say, then freak out after a vote, hmmm?

[SoN!c]

Vote Count: (Now in vote order!)

Razorvich : 5 (Ragian, *Pixar*, Extreme Ways, traffic133, DirtyDishSoap)
swang918 : 2 (Loose Canon x 2)
Loose Canon : 0 ()

No Vote : 12 (Charle, Darin44, DukeHazzard, fusibaseball, General Bax, Maxleod, PepeAtila, Razorvich, SoN!c, strike wolf, swang918, TrafalgarLaw01)

18 Alive, 10 votes needed to lynch

If Loose is scum like i believe he is Raz needs just 3 more votes before Loose can switch votes and Raz is lynched..