Oops, prematurely posted before finishing. *Sigh* here's the 2nd part. Wait for the other ones as well if I'll have enough time.
Talapus wrote:Because it was a far better option in my mind than having town lynch you. Yes I saw your newest post and yes I appreciate you willing to come out and talk more about it even though you can't say much more. But let's face facts Commander9, you're a damn good player when you want to be and certainly know how to play the game. I'd be an idiot if I trusted your claim blindly. I never thought you were a great lynch choice but if it came to killing you I'd rather off you in the night and keep you from getting an instant win condtion or power role based on a town lynch as it certainly sounded like that may be the case(Nothing personal
). But I found it odd how quickly you dropped the first hint in your post and then helped clear up what you could with more posts. So when the bandwagon was high and we get this post:
Finally at least some one read what I posted, even if I disagree with you. I also think you give me a bit too much credit
Anyways, the main reason for me explaining is that I was surprised so many people were willing to bandwagon me just because I have a.. Condition and specific do's and don'ts. I tried to explaining and went around as much as possible, but that apparently only made things worse. Basically, the whole case against me is that I want to lynch Fircoal with every post which I found amusing and sad at the same time.
Talapus wrote:Well, it was just a very defeatest attitude and that isn't like you. So makes me not trust you in this game really at all. Smart move if you are scum with a win condition because the fires were stoked and at there peak you sounded like you gave up which is really smart because people could have dropped the last 3 votes needed for a lynch and you wouldn't be around to defend yourself. So ya, still don't trust you...lol, but still also think a lynch is wasted on you.
On a side note when this is all over I will be very curious to see your role. Because if all this play style from you was intentional and it almost got you an instant win then I am truly impressed.I'll have to wait and see though now.
It wasn't as much defeatist as realistic. I knew I won't have time during the weekend and I've been very busy this week in general, so I expected to get lynched without ever saying anything more. Frankly, I'm quite frustrated with this town... Basically, realistically speaking, I think I'll be lynched whatever happens, but at least if I manage to leave enough evidence, maybe someone will pick up on things I've said and noted and what some others did.
Furthermore, I disagree about the whole trust issue. It's day 1 - you're not supposed to trust anyone unless you have confirmed people you can actually trust. Everyone else is a wild card.
shrewstur wrote:this is dumb. Vig can be RB'ed, Com9 can be doctored, there is probably a Lightning Rod, busdriver and everyone else. You probably want someone to kill him tonight because you are mafia and then you can busdrive the kill to a target of your choice.
In Talapus's post, he argued not to vote Commander9, and instead he voted for Nebuchadnezer. I don't think DoomYoshi would be this accusatory towards Talapus if he wasn't aligned with Neb. If Commander9 somehow survives, there will be grounds to believe that Talapus is a busdriver mafia.[/quote]
Um... What? How does that make any sense?
nagerous wrote:Your uni has begun already?
Mine's been going for 3 weeks now.
The1exile wrote:You've misunderstood. My problem is not that he's hasn't roleclaimed (duh) it's that he tried to drip drop information that would lead us to believe that he is important... and I'll come to why that's important later.
Well, you're entitled to do that I guess. OTOH it's exactly the double-bluff tactic a cult might take. But you're giving me way too much credit for being a day-cop.
I don't think he is revealing all about his role. In fact, I don't know for sure that he is a cultist. What I do know is that we need a lynch day 1, and he is acting suspiciously. Why do I know that?
Well, my initial suspicion of him is based on his terrible reaction to mandy's suspicion and his attempts to big up his role to the town, viz:
Sound like a townie-with-a-post-restriction to you? After this, he started attracting attention. Here's his defence, paraphrased:
The closest he got to an actual defence was when he suggested "aage/mandy/skoff" were bandwagonning.
So now, with his latest post, let's revisit his actual claim, bearing in mind his suggestions of importance before:
and then some stuff about only ever posting jokes.
TL;DR I don't know that comm9 is scum - but I believe his reactions to being accused are suspicious and that he has deliberately tried to mislead the town with suggestions of his role. Since we need a lynch day 1 (this isn't really up for discussion, since giving scum a free night is always a bad idea) I think we should vote him, though I am willing to entertain other theories of who might be scum. Unfortunately, so far not even comm9 (who is the one who really should be under the moist pressure to spot scumminess in others) has presented a definite path to follow. Finally, as to the cult thing, I don't know if there is a cult but a) it is a distinct possibility I don't want to rule out and b) if there is a cult, having a lynch-free day 1 is a really bad idea.
Oh, this is just gold here – even got a few of my tears down running from laughter. My points:
1) Double bluff tactic? You think I didn’t realize my “condition” would attract attention? If so, I’m probably worst player ever. You really think if I were actually cult I’d try to attract *more* attention to myself? I’ve played enough games to know the do’s and don’ts and what gets you killed, so your opinion is that I intentionally suicide as a cult on day 1. Yeah, okay.
2) Suspiciously? Literally the only thing that has attracted attention are limitations of not being able to say specific words or do specific things. NOTHING else.
3) I reacted to Mandy’s joke with a joke. There was literally no reaction there. Go re-read it. Or you know, quote it and show the over-reaction rather than fluffing your way.
4) In general, non-town most of the time don’t even have PR’s. Not always true, but town PR’s are MUCH more common that non-town.
5) I also love the reddened part:
“I don't think he is revealing all about his role.” Versus “So now, with his latest post, let's revisit his actual claim” all in the same post
Can you explain where I’ve claimed?
6) Can you explain how I “DELIBERATELY TRIED TO MISLEAD TOWN”?
ummmm, I'm confused. That wasn't my argument at all. My argument was that there was no need to waste a lynch on Com9 when someone could off him in the night. 
(I have no reason to think that he is, I just think that it would be neat).) Your first 'joke' sounded like you were jokingly implying that you are scum. It's Day 1. I have pounced on people for less. 
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