Vampire Mafia- Abandoned :(

[naxus]

I never seem to have good reasons for who I protect. I picked naxus just cause. He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game.

There is no chance that you would know that naxus were targeted last night. Not in earth. Look...more scum points to you .............


-why are this scum still alive???-

I don't know, I just decided to protect him, so I did. I didn't know he would be targeted but I didn't know I would be either. I didn't know who would be targeted and I'm not claiming to.

Thank you captain walrus

[strokem1257]

ok, I kind of also think I get what Stroop is hinting at and the night scene would confirm that. Does it start with a c, stroop?

Yes!

In that case he should shut up rather quickly lol

Well, the only people I think he is fooling now is the newbies. I can only think of one role that starts with a 'c' and could explain the first paragraph so I'll assume you are it. I think anyone who knows the game pretty much knows what you are now.

I was getting ready to say something really similar but you posted before I could get there squirrel...

First off I want to start off by UNVOTE
ok I am just going to organize my thoughts here guys. Here is what we have claimed so far:
Falko targets naxus
strokem targets CW
e_i_pi blocks Falko
CW protects naxus
CW is apparently bullet proof from my action since there is no announced blocking/doctoring done here.
stroop is a "c" which he hasn't formally revealed all the way to everyone yet.

stroop's claim, if truly valid, easily explains the first part of the night scene. as I am still new to mafia I have only come aware of one role that can do what was suggested by the first post. so stroop's claim seems valid enough for now.

Now on to the more daunting line of thinking I have.
my first question guys... what order did these come in:
Falko's claim to have attacked naxus,
CW's that he protected naxus,
e_1_pi's claim to have blocked Falko...

I can't seem to find their posts for some reason right now. though I do believe it was falko, e_i_pi, then CW who claimed

because if it was falko who claimed first I have had a slightly crazy suspicion that CW may just be trying to get in with us townies by claiming he protected naxus when in fact he didn't and was just lucky that falko's action was blocked so that there really isn't proof either way. If he is lying then he would be a bulletproof mafia player.

and further more if e_i_pi is the one who is lying CW's claim could be the truth and he was the one who protected naxus and just got lucky with his choice.

so in light of my semi organized line of thinking as of right now I am going to VOTE CW since he has seemed the scummiest out of those who have been listed so far in my post.

I hope this helps a little guys. Though I may have just confused myself a little.

[naxus]

quote="strokem1257"]Personally based on the actions of last night I believe Falko may be lying about his nk abilities. I was the second half of the scene. I tried to kill someone and it failed, though I do not know why. I am not going to release who I chose but the person has seemed scummy to me as of late, though my full reasoning behind it may not have been completely solid. I will have to gather up some more info before I make a formal claim if this is acceptable to everyone.[/quote]

[quote=falkomango]I tried to kill nexus (ultra mega lurker) last night...nothing happened...don't know why. I don't believe stroke claim[/quote]

[quote=captainwalrus]I can account for one of the failed nk's but I will leave it at that[/quote]

[quote=e_i_pi]Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.[/quote]

[quote=stroke]I guess I am going to come out with it. Last night I targeted CW due to the fact that even though I did not really like the whole double shot kill thing claimed by falko if falko was telling the truth there should be no reason for us to try to vote him out at that time. CW made a blatant try to kill falko for the second time when we had already reached a lynch number a few posts earlier. if PMC was to come back he would obviously be able to see that falko had reached that number earlier thus lynching him even though some had unvoted already. Although i don't fully trust falko just yet, I am really beginning to get a few suspicions about other people since the night phase. [/quote]

Heres how the claims(in order)went as to who the vigs targeted and who roleblocked who or claimed to be a roleblocker

CW actually claimed after falko

[naxus]

Personally based on the actions of last night I believe Falko may be lying about his nk abilities. I was the second half of the scene. I tried to kill someone and it failed, though I do not know why. I am not going to release who I chose but the person has seemed scummy to me as of late, though my full reasoning behind it may not have been completely solid. I will have to gather up some more info before I make a formal claim if this is acceptable to everyone.

I tried to kill nexus (ultra mega lurker) last night...nothing happened...don't know why. I don't believe stroke claim

I can account for one of the failed nk's but I will leave it at that

Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.

I guess I am going to come out with it. Last night I targeted CW due to the fact that even though I did not really like the whole double shot kill thing claimed by falko if falko was telling the truth there should be no reason for us to try to vote him out at that time. CW made a blatant try to kill falko for the second time when we had already reached a lynch number a few posts earlier. if PMC was to come back he would obviously be able to see that falko had reached that number earlier thus lynching him even though some had unvoted already. Although i don't fully trust falko just yet, I am really beginning to get a few suspicions about other people since the night phase.

Heres how the claims(in order)went as to who the vigs targeted and who roleblocked who or claimed to be a roleblocker

CW actually claimed after falko

sorry.Messed up my tags

[e_i_pi]

Two things to clear up before I begin:

Also, strokem has not claimed to be a roleblocker but a vigilante, and captain walrus claims to have protected naxus. Why are you spreading misinformations, eipi?

Aside from the outbursts after night scene, the only reference I can find to strokem claiming anything is here, which doesn't mention being a vig. I read through another 10 pages or so at the time, and still couldn't find him claiming to be a vig, just him standing by the fact that he is not a normal townie. I don't believe there is any claim to being a vig prior to the night scene, if there is, feel free to reply with the link, as I'd be interested to see how it cropped up.

As for me saying strokem roleblocked captainwalrus, I got it round the wrong way, it was captainwalrus claiming to have protected naxus, and strokem claiming to have targetted naxus (I believe I have it right this time).

Pi, can you clarify this half roleblock thing, you mentioned that and didnt expand.

Unfortunately, no I can't. That's all the information I was given, that's it's a half-block, not a full-block. The story of night one suggests to me that my half-block action against falko resulted in a wound and not a kill.

=====

Now, in light of everything that's gone on, I'm changing my vote. I'm still suspicious of several people, but one is standing out like a sore thumb to me now.

UNVOTE

Captainwalrus, you omitted my rolleyes emoticon when quoting me - strange for a townie to do that, as Stroop has pointed out. Now, by itself, that's not much, especially if it was early in the game, but it's not, it's getting to the point where lynching and killing is going to happen without a first round stall. I find that suspicious.

I also find suspicious that you aren't claiming innocence, that you are instead saying words to the effect "don't look at me, it's that guy over there that's the vampire". That's a terribly obvious way to slink about.

Also, the fact that you claim to have protected naxus because, and I quote, "He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game", well that smells fishy to me. Perhaps you do have a protection skill, but your explanation for protecting naxus, someone who has hardly posted at all, doesn't wash with me.

Vote captainwalrus

[e_i_pi]

Also, strokem has not claimed to be a roleblocker but a vigilante, and captain walrus claims to have protected naxus. Why are you spreading misinformations, eipi?

As for me saying strokem roleblocked captainwalrus, I got it round the wrong way, it was captainwalrus claiming to have protected naxus, and strokem claiming to have targetted naxus (I believe I have it right this time).

Ugh, turns out I still don't have it right, just read back, and it's strokem claiming to kill captainwalrus.

I'll reference this part of the story:

The vampire was ready to strike, but where was the question? The people were fearful and depite the stepped up hunt for vampires he was not. Dracula was looking for his next prey, he was craving blood but nothing was in sight. He picked out a house and swooped in, he searched it thoroughly but there was nothing of intrest. A frustrating night for the vampire but he would reutrn the next night.

I'm not sure how mafia works entirely, but I'll put this out there, someone may be able to clarify whether it is possible:

• Falko leaves his home to kill someone, but is role-blocked by myself
• captainwalrus attacks Falko, but Falko is out so he "swooped in, he searched it (the house) thoroughly but there was nothing of intrest"
• strokem attacks captainwalrus, but as captainwalrus is out so he can't kill him

[MeDeFe]

Usually people who are "out", doing what vigilantes do, can be targeted by the scum. Otherwise they'd be practically unkillable unless by lynch, and Falko says to need one vote more for that as well.


And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

[Mr. Squirrel]

I'm not sure how mafia works entirely, but I'll put this out there, someone may be able to clarify whether it is possible:

* Falko leaves his home to kill someone, but is role-blocked by myself
* captainwalrus attacks Falko, but Falko is out so he "swooped in, he searched it (the house) thoroughly but there was nothing of intrest"
* strokem attacks captainwalrus, but as captainwalrus is out so he can't kill him

Sorry, but that's not how it works. Anyone can still be targeted by scum even if they use their night powers. There is only one role that I know of where you can be "out" and I think stroop has already claimed it.

And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

[Falkomagno]

I never seem to have good reasons for who I protect. I picked naxus just cause. He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game.

There is no chance that you would know that naxus were targeted last night. Not in earth. Look...more scum points to you .............


-why are this scum still alive???-

I don't know, I just decided to protect him, so I did. I didn't know he would be targeted but I didn't know I would be either. I didn't know who would be targeted and I'm not claiming to.

Thank you captain walrus

I was wondering Why CW is still alive...not you naxus....my suspicious on you are quite low by now..anyway, all that thing of your NK sounds fishy anyway, so don't relax. But The main suspect right now is CW. See?? he is twisting words, to put the attention into someone else. Don't fall in that trap naxus, he is buddying you, to gain allies. Try to mantain the objectivity.

There you go, more scum points to you walrus ...........

[strokem1257]

it seems everyone has their sights set on lynching me. go ahead if you really feel like it. I don't care. this is just a game so it really doesn't matter to me. and since it was the first mafia game i ever joined I was just trying to get a feel for how things were played. but now that it seems whatever I say everyone tries to twist it around back at me I have basically just said screw this game. maybe if I actually decide I would like to stay around and play mafia again, besides a few rts every now and again I will take the longer games more seriously. I got myself into some early suspicion by being too aggressive though having seen the movies that my character is based on I felt that he usually takes that kind of stances. He is a man of action. But that is besides the point now. As for trying to defend myself against all my accusers I am not going to even try going back and hitting every one of them. I am a vigilante townie, thats all I am going to say. If you don't like my response then go ahead and lynch me to see I am telling the truth. Oh and btw obviously noone took the time to look up my movie hints in one of my earlier posts or they would have seen why I acted like I have.

@e_i_pi here is the post i made back on page 11 before the night phase. idk how to do the links so I just quoted it. It is about 3 or 4 posts down the page. It clearly states here that I claimed vig early, since it is still technically my first game and I was getting scared of the quickly forming bandwagon.

[strokem1257]

I thought I should update this while I was on. there has been a lot of voting going on as of late.

Vote Count!

Mr. S (1) - GEQ
Stroop (1) - CW
CW (3) - Falko, stroke, e_i_pi

Ok everyone agree?

[God Emperor Q]

I'm going to act on my suspicion from earlier.
Unvote
Vote Stroop

[Mr. Squirrel]

I'm going to act on my suspicion from earlier.
Unvote
Vote Stroop

Can you repost what your suspicions were? I don't remember them and looking back I can't seem to find them.

[MeDeFe]

And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

I think I spotted it.

[cowboyz]

Alive players:
1. captainwalrus
2. fuzzy PPPPPPPPPPenguin
3. falkomagno
4. Mr squirrel
5. cowboyz
6. naxus
7. stroop
8. skittles.
9. cena
10. masterchief123
11. suspect101
12. SEAsportsfan
13. MeDeFe
14. e_i_pi
15. strokem

I know that a few players have been replaced, since God Emp Q and others have joined...how bout PMC edit the first post so we have an accurate list of who replaced who in the game?

ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - ((1)suspect, (2)skittles, (3)fircoal, (4)stroop, (5)cowboyz,(6) medefe. (7)squirrel, (8) cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.

I put numbers in each vote to clary things. Btw….

You guys are tools, i wouldn't leave with a wrong vote count.

No lynch, Night 1 actions plz.

So, that’s what happened before:

1. I start with silly arguments to see reactions
2. 2. Everybody turns on me, with angry eyes
3. I had to claim. I claim to need one more vote to be lynched
4. I received 8 votes, when we need 8 votes to lynch
5. I wasn’t lynched. That's because I was telling the truth
But some people thought that was because the mod can’t count…jeez…maybe you are actually tools. I’m going to think that you are tool, by now.

Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.

Ok I went throught the whole falko thing in my head and i seems that he did get 8 votes and wasn't killed. That proves he wasn't lying about needing the extra vote, and his statement about starting up discussion with his crazy talk in the start makes sense as well. Falko isn't cleared yet, but he was telling the truth about the +1 to lynch thing.

e_i_pi roleblocking falko would also make sense because we weren't sure about his 2 Nk's he claimed to have.

Possibly, I think I will claim.
I am a bulletproof body gaurd. And unfourtunently, I decided to protect nexus. THis means you both could be lying or telling the truth but It isn't that helpfull. Because I can't dye and I can protet someone, that sort of balances thngs a bit with the two vig's.

CW's explanation for protecting naxus doesn't make much sense to me.

I never seem to have good reasons for who I protect. I picked naxus just cause. He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game.

There is no chance that you would know that naxus were targeted last night. Not in earth. Look...more scum points to you .............


-why are this scum still alive???-

I don't know, I just decided to protect him, so I did. I didn't know he would be targeted but I didn't know I would be either. I didn't know who would be targeted and I'm not claiming to.

Really, claims so far:

Falko targets naxus
eipi blocks Falko
strokem targets CW
CW protects naxus

This is a good call. Look, my lack of effectiveness can be wide explain by de eipi action. The claim of CW is totally unnecessary, and In fact, unbelievable...why CW would want to protect a player who wasn't active??? that would be a very very lucky choice. In the absence of eipi claim, that could explain why naxus is alive, but with the information that we have by now it's so much...bullshitish

I think that I can get along with that.

unvote vote CW...damn...I knew it

The scum didn't kill anyone and that might be due to me but even I can't know for sure whether it actually is.

That can be easily explained in a cult game. And you know, if a Vampire bites you, you become in an evil force too....-why nobody take that statement seriously??-

Im thinking we should lynch CW
1. We have a mislynch to use for sure
2. This will prove something about falko/e_i_pi (if CW turns out to be scum, i will be more inclined to trust them)

So for now FOS CW


Elsewhere the hunt was on. These vampires had terrorised enough people and it was time for them to pay. The tall figure walked among the shadows and seen its target. He was sure it was a vampire, he shouted and the target turned too face him. He shot his stake gun straight towards the heart of his victim but it never sunk in properly and the figure turned and fleed.

This maybe a bit noob thinking but...
Maybe a vamp that takes 2 shots to die? Stroke claims vig and he claims to have targetted CW, maybe he hit CW once and CW would need an extra kill to die?
Is that possible at all or no?

[cena-rules]

I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it

[cowboyz]

I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it

ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - (suspect, skittles, fircoal, stroop, cowboyz, medefe. squirrel, cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.

Ok right, So falko isn't proven about his L+1 ability at all. So FOS Falko and CW
I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?

[Mr. Squirrel]

I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it

I thought that was just Pmc's way of saying that we hadn't lynched him yet. Unfortunately, Pmc isn't here to clarify.

I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

Well, we know CW has to be bulletproof since stroke targeted him, but is he really scum? In regards to his poor reasoning for protecting naxus, I can understand him. We had a very boring day 1 with very little to go on. He didn't know who the mafia would target since there was no real claims besides stroke's and Falko's vig claims. IF I were him, I probably would have just chosen randomly who to protect or protected no one at all. Think about it. If you had been him, who would you choose to protect?

I'm just trying to point out some of the holes in your argument against him. I know that as soon as I post this, someone is gonna say "The squirrel and the Walrus are scum buddies!!!! Lynch Em!!!!" but honestly I don't see a strong enough argument to deserve a lynch. I definitely think you should continue to investigate CW, but I disapprove of your "Lynch one of them now!" attitude. Especially when there is no deadline set yet.

BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?

I wouldn't say common, but it is definitely not unheard of.

[cowboyz]

I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it

I thought that was just Pmc's way of saying that we hadn't lynched him yet. Unfortunately, Pmc isn't here to clarify.

Everyone keeps saying PMC isnt retarded so unless he comes in and says something other, Im guessing he meant what he typed.

I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

Well, we know CW has to be bulletproof since stroke targeted him, but is he really scum? In regards to his poor reasoning for protecting naxus, I can understand him. We had a very boring day 1 with very little to go on. He didn't know who the mafia would target since there was no real claims besides stroke's and Falko's vig claims. IF I were him, I probably would have just chosen randomly who to protect or protected no one at all. Think about it. If you had been him, who would you choose to protect?

I'm just trying to point out some of the holes in your argument against him. I know that as soon as I post this, someone is gonna say "The squirrel and the Walrus are scum buddies!!!! Lynch Em!!!!" but honestly I don't see a strong enough argument to deserve a lynch. I definitely think you should continue to investigate CW, but I disapprove of your "Lynch one of them now!" attitude. Especially when there is no deadline set yet.

I never went nuts and started to demand we "Lynch one of them now!" at all. I just offered up an idea. Hell, I didnt even vote yet, I just threw out a FOS on each of them.
If we do vote for one, it will at least offer up some info which we could clearly use atm.

Any thoughts of yours as on who to lynch?

[Stroop]

And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

Eh? I was guessing at MeDeFe's role. Nothing I said was in any way related to my own role.

[MeDeFe]

And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

Eh? I was guessing at MeDeFe's role. Nothing I said was in any way related to my own role.

Then I must have misread a post or two somewhere.

[Mr. Squirrel]

And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

Eh? I was guessing at MeDeFe's role. Nothing I said was in any way related to my own role.

Then I must have misread a post or two somewhere.

Whoops. I misread an old post as well. Looking back, I read one of your day 1 posts wrong (which led me to believe one thing) and then I got confused and thought you claimed to hold the 'c' role. MeDeFe, we are talking about your role starting with a 'c'. We still have no idea who stroop is. Yours does start with a 'c' right?

I gotta start writing stuff down again. I'm getting all screwed up...

[cena-rules]

The role is called voteless townie.

I personally thing we should attempt to lynch falko again to test this out. If he has the +1 then we can see that he is town and if he isnt then we get rid of a lying little toerag

vote falko

also when you vote him quote the vote before you and add a number. I am vote number one. If anyone has been told their vote doesnt count can you let us know or just stay off the bandwagon please

[captainwalrus]

Captainwalrus, you omitted my rolleyes emoticon when quoting me - strange for a townie to do that, as Stroop has pointed out. Now, by itself, that's not much, especially if it was early in the game, but it's not, it's getting to the point where lynching and killing is going to happen without a first round stall. I find that suspicious.

Sorry for miss quoting, I didn't realize the eyeroll was important. I honestly couldn't tell if you were joking, so I asked if you had claimed vampire, just to double check.

I also find suspicious that you aren't claiming innocence, that you are instead saying words to the effect "don't look at me, it's that guy over there that's the vampire". That's a terribly obvious way to slink about.

No one had really accused me of much at the point that I was accuseing.


Also, the fact that you claim to have protected naxus because, and I quote, "He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game", well that smells fishy to me. Perhaps you do have a protection skill, but your explanation for protecting naxus, someone who has hardly posted at all, doesn't wash with me.
It was a random guess. I had no reason to protectany one else, so I protected a newb. What is wrong with that?
Vote captainwalrus

[Falkomagno]

I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it

ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - (suspect, skittles, fircoal, stroop, cowboyz, medefe. squirrel, cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.

Ok right, So falko isn't proven about his L+1 ability at all. So FOS Falko and CW
I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?

shut the hell up¡¡...what's wrong with you??? you don't think so "Oh my freaking god" coincidential that I claimed to need +1 vote to be lynched, and then miraculously appears a voteless townie voting by me???? Distraction. That's all you have.