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Postby Anarkistsdream on Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:36 pm

nagerous wrote:I know people are getting frustated by lack of leads but I don't think lynching the pope is the right answer to the problems.


So you would rather have LSU role-blocking God's men?

Sorry, but right now we have nothing to go on. Several people feel that LSU could easily be lying.

I am unsure, but what I DO know is that I am going to quit paying attention if something doesn't happen to move the game along.

If you don't want us to vote LSU, then who? Fircoal?
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Postby nagerous on Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:45 pm

F1fth wrote:FOS the LSU bandwagon. Poor judgement =/= Suspicious behavior.

I'm a little unnerved at how quickly every hopped on this bandwagon. Are we anxious for a lynch maybe, or is there something more to this?

Regardless, I would like to see how this wagon plays out, and see who does what, so I'll withhold my vote.


F1fth wrote:I'll give it until tomorrow afternoon for Holy Intervention, and then I'm going to vote for LSU.



F1fth seems to me to be airing on the side of caution then "giving time for an intervention" in an attempt to seem pro-town, when in fact I believe him to be just withholding his vote to try and appear like he is not bandwagoning and trying to give off a pro-town vibe. A good strategy for scum I often apply is to make yourself seem like a big townplayer and lettign the actual voting take its natural cause, not bandwagoning until the votes reach higher figures. I don't believe there will be any more holy intervention, if I am right in my thinking the gods have probably used up all their godly points this day phase, considering the amount of posts by them though please correct me if you believe I may be wrong in this assumption. I don't like the LSU bandwagon so I'm personally going to vote f1fth because I distrust him .
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Postby Selin on Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:48 pm

jnd94 wrote:
Koesen wrote:On another note, I suggest 72 hour deadlines for the days from now on. This game day has been going on for eight calendar days already and will probably make it through most of the ninth, if not more.

If we keep that up, we'll get to the Christmas holidays before Day Four, and I am sure that will kill the game. I for one will most likely not be able to play for a week or two.


Alright sure, thanks for the heads up.

Oh, and a vote count should be coming up.


still waiting :(

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Postby jnd94 on Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:42 pm

Selin wrote:
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Koesen wrote:On another note, I suggest 72 hour deadlines for the days from now on. This game day has been going on for eight calendar days already and will probably make it through most of the ninth, if not more.

If we keep that up, we'll get to the Christmas holidays before Day Four, and I am sure that will kill the game. I for one will most likely not be able to play for a week or two.


Alright sure, thanks for the heads up.

Oh, and a vote count should be coming up.


still waiting :(

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Postby jnd94 on Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:47 pm

VOTE COUNT

1-Koesen (nagerous)
1-firth (TWO)
1-ga7 (Skoffin)
2-AD (freezie,Neutrino)
8-LSU (Sierra,AD,firth,Mandy,gimpy,Koesen,LSU,F1fth
2-spinwizard (ga7,Selin)
1-Fircoal (kwanton)

20 ALIVE.......11 TO LYNCH......

nagerous, I don't see any unvote from you.
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Postby Skoffin on Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:18 pm

Huh... could of sworn I voted LSU. Either way something in his claim rings a bell, not sure where I read it so I guess I have rereading to do. But for the most part I believe his claim.

unvote either way
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Postby F1fth on Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:51 pm

nagerous wrote:
F1fth wrote:FOS the LSU bandwagon. Poor judgement =/= Suspicious behavior.

I'm a little unnerved at how quickly every hopped on this bandwagon. Are we anxious for a lynch maybe, or is there something more to this?

Regardless, I would like to see how this wagon plays out, and see who does what, so I'll withhold my vote.


F1fth wrote:I'll give it until tomorrow afternoon for Holy Intervention, and then I'm going to vote for LSU.



F1fth seems to me to be airing on the side of caution then "giving time for an intervention" in an attempt to seem pro-town, when in fact I believe him to be just withholding his vote to try and appear like he is not bandwagoning and trying to give off a pro-town vibe. A good strategy for scum I often apply is to make yourself seem like a big townplayer and lettign the actual voting take its natural cause, not bandwagoning until the votes reach higher figures. I don't believe there will be any more holy intervention, if I am right in my thinking the gods have probably used up all their godly points this day phase, considering the amount of posts by them though please correct me if you believe I may be wrong in this assumption. I don't like the LSU bandwagon so I'm personally going to vote f1fth because I distrust him .


Giving off a pro-town vibe is a scumtell these days? What is the world coming to! :lol: :wink:

Anyway, I thought I spelled out clearly my line of thinking. I also was reluctant to vote for LSU. I even said I was obliged to believe his pope claim and FOS'ed the bandwagoners, until Koeson brought up a very valid point: What is the Pope's role in the Catholic Church? The one man who can speak with God. If he can speak with God, wouldn't God stand up for him? This is what persuaded me to vote LSU (that and eagerness to roll on :P ). I just wanted to clear that much up, feel free to judge me now as you will.
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Postby freezie on Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:35 pm

firth4eva wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Unvote Yes, I'm the pope. Reality I'm not a cop or doc and so it's not a huge deal if I die b/c of you heathens. I was not given who was God or Satan. Only that I am the pope and have a different power(roleblock). If some of you idiots want to lynch me go ahead, but when my death shows that I am indeed the pope that will give the rest of God's army a lead on which of you idiots are working for the devil. Day 1's are meant to be random votes. In this case, we had a cop come out on day 1 and end a day 1 without making it random thus making day 2 random after the gods intervened with what the cop pointed out. Random votes are tossed around and by not being around that much after it getting made clear that some of you want to vote me I went ahead and voted myself since as I said I'm not a cop or doc and even after pointing out my role I knew some dumbfucks would decide to keep their vote there or even add to it. In regards to the God speaking out about it, I'm not so sure they know exactly who everyone is or how often they are allowed to speak out as they have done a lot of speaking already on this day and may have exhausted their speaking points for the day.


this bit looks suspicious enough to keep my vote on you




You're 3rd party, you wouldn't know.




nagerous wrote:
F1fth wrote:FOS the LSU bandwagon. Poor judgement =/= Suspicious behavior.

I'm a little unnerved at how quickly every hopped on this bandwagon. Are we anxious for a lynch maybe, or is there something more to this?

Regardless, I would like to see how this wagon plays out, and see who does what, so I'll withhold my vote.


F1fth wrote:I'll give it until tomorrow afternoon for Holy Intervention, and then I'm going to vote for LSU.



F1fth seems to me to be airing on the side of caution then "giving time for an intervention" in an attempt to seem pro-town, when in fact I believe him to be just withholding his vote to try and appear like he is not bandwagoning and trying to give off a pro-town vibe. A good strategy for scum I often apply is to make yourself seem like a big townplayer and lettign the actual voting take its natural cause, not bandwagoning until the votes reach higher figures. I don't believe there will be any more holy intervention, if I am right in my thinking the gods have probably used up all their godly points this day phase, considering the amount of posts by them though please correct me if you believe I may be wrong in this assumption. I don't like the LSU bandwagon so I'm personally going to vote f1fth because I distrust him .




This seems a pretty viable lead for me to vote: Fifth




Also, sorry all for my lack of participation..Not quite into mafias these days :(
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:15 pm

Vote F1fth Nag brought up a great point and that is one fo the reasons that I did my investigation on rictus in R&J since many times noob scums will go to an extreme to try to hide themselves especially as no one else has countered my claim and he still wants to bandwagon on me like the heathen that he is.

BTW after 1230cst tomorrow i won't be online probably until sometime on sunday.
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Postby jnd94 on Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:44 pm

Yeah, hate to rush you guys, but the day sorta should be over soon :?
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Postby ga7 on Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:14 pm

Alright, well at this point F1fth's lead seems better than other cases, Unvote Vote F1fth. Additionally AD looks like he's trying to pull the same trick as in Civil war, except that here it's pretty obvious already that he lied about his claim. LSU's explanation seems pretty valid to me, and pushing for his lynch because "several people feel that he could be lying" seems just that, pushing for no valid reason.
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Postby gimpyThewonder on Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:22 pm

I'll switch my vote if necessary just to make this day over. But i think this fifth wagon is on even less subsantial ground than the LSU one. really i don't much care though, i just want to move on
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Postby F1fth on Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:25 am

Come on guys, at least acknowledge that you read my previous post before voting for me.
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Postby The Weird One on Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:28 am

gimpyThewonder wrote:I'll switch my vote if necessary just to make this day over. But i think this fifth wagon is on even less subsantial ground than the LSU one. really i don't much care though, i just want to move on


ya. . .unvote

I'll reread everything tomorrow.
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Postby ga7 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:29 am

But you presented a moot point as gods were previously so chatty that it seems pretty likely to me that they wouldn't be able to keep sending us messages at this point. Basically, after reading LSU's explanation I don't really get why you and others would be still so dead set on him...
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Postby F1fth on Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:41 am

ga7 wrote:But you presented a moot point as gods were previously so chatty that it seems pretty likely to me that they wouldn't be able to keep sending us messages at this point. Basically, after reading LSU's explanation I don't really get why you and others would be still so dead set on him...


It's pure speculation on what the gods can and cannot do. And I'm really not dead-set on LSU -- as a matter of fact, I can very easily be convinced otherwise, (because as even I had said before, the accusation is on shaky ground). However, given the present moment, there is no more viable option than LSU (which in turn means there's not much to go off of at all).

I would have no qualms about not lynching LSU. I would have qualms however, letting whatever in this game resembles a mafia have a free kill without town taking a shot at them. A "no lynch" is quite harmful to the town's side.
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Postby nagerous on Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:02 am

F1fth wrote:A "no lynch" is quite harmful to the town's side.



But there are no deadlines at the moment!! Unvote vote f1fth (forgot to unvote last time)
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Postby Sierra_Leon on Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:55 am

Just when the day was coming to a close, another bandwagon emerges. Seriously, how many more people are we going to push to roleclaim?

I realize very well that the case against LSU is just as weak as the case against f1fth, but that's not the point here. My point is that LSU already roleclaimed (Pope, pro-god roleblocker), and I'm not convinced by that claim. Even if LSU turns out to really be the Pope: he already said himself that he is more expendable than for instance a cop or a doc, so I'm willing to take the risk. We already had our day-cop reveal himself day 1, and forced TWO, Koesen, and now LSU to roleclaim. Say f1fth gets to lynch -1 and claims an important and believable role. Then what will you do? Turn back to LSU? Or find a completely new target to vote for without a shed of evidence? I'm sure Satan will thank you afterwards for revealing so many powerroles. This day needs to end, so night can provide us with some actual clues.


PS: reading back my own post, I noticed that it might appear I'm protecting f1fth. I'd just like to point out that is not the case. I have no idea what his role or alignment is, I just think LSU is the better option for a lynch today.
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Postby ga7 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:14 am

SL, that's again a reasoning à la "lynch for the sake of lynching". The way F1fth has played so far I highly doubt we'll uncover yet another important role, and at this point I think either LSU's role is what he said, or both TWO & LSU are BSing us with these weird catholic church claims :P
Personally I don't care making a favor or not to Satan at this point, but I'm certain that we will see one of them die in the night because of these claims, thus providing us with clues without making the dirty work ourselves, which strikes me as way more convenient than not trying to get better leads as you guys are pushing for. Besides, all these wagons will be useful data in the next days.
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Postby firth4eva on Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:11 pm

hmmm. I agree more with the lynch f1fth than the don't pressure too many people. unvote vote f1th
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Postby F1fth on Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:40 pm

ga7 wrote:SL, that's again a reasoning à la "lynch for the sake of lynching".


And this bandwagon against me isn't just a "lynch for the sake of lynching." Look what the two reasons are given by nagerous himself:

1. I was cautious. My bad.

2. He didn't like the bandwagon. So instead accusing the people who instantly and thoughtlessly hopped on the wagon, he blames the person who thought it through and came to the conclusion that it was the best option. Yay, lynch the thoughtful ones!

Seriously, it seems like if someone writes out a long, well-articulated post, no matter how ridiculous the subject matter, people just gulp it down without a second thought. It's how I was able to so easily win CC mafia. As mafia, all I had to do is lead the town on witch hunts, a lot like what nagerous is doing now. It led me to power roles, it kept the public eye off me, and it caused confusion, scum's greatest weapon.

Please give me a sign that you guys are thinking through nag's post instead of mindlessly nodding your heads!
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Postby gimpyThewonder on Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:32 pm

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F1fth wrote:A "no lynch" is quite harmful to the town's side.



But there are no deadlines at the moment!! Unvote vote f1fth (forgot to unvote last time)


not yet but JND said he would institute one if this day dragged on too long, and i think that was over the weekend. like 5 days ago.

JND for the sake of this game continuing could you please institute a cap? maybe that would get things moving.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:11 pm

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Postby jnd94 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:48 pm

Once more a bolt of lightning strikes from the sky!! Thunder is heard throughout the land! A mighty voice booms, with expasperation he says:

'I can't believe you numpties bought that Catholic pope B.S and are now moving on to bandwagon a true believer. It's almost like you want this day to last forever. And remember; your eyes can deceive you, things are not always as they appear. My adversary has a golden tongue and can make anything seem plausible, such is the gift He was given before being cast down to the fiery pit.

Go in peace, my children. If you look hard enough the path will present itself.'

With that, the sky is recovered to it's previous blue.

ON A SEPERATE NOTE, 48 HOURS BEFORE A NO LYNCH OCCURS!!!!
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Postby Koesen on Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:25 pm

I think I'm sticking with LSU.

Fifth merely agreed with my logic, which I personally can't blame him for :)

LSU swore at his first voters, then dramatically voted himself, announced he'd be gone for 24 hours but returned to unvote after 16 when he noticed his own bandwagon progressed faster than he expected.

I may be wrong, but I think his behaviour is more suspicious than Fifth's.

And that's without considering the latest divine message.
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