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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:26 am

pmchugh wrote:Get back on topic!!!!!!

And you fabricated that!

Do i need to report you again? and no I did not...
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby pmchugh on Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:33 am

Stroke has earned himself a pr for being a tool.

You must act like fircoal in every post and also start every post by admitting to actually being suspects multi.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Stroop on Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:50 am

MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

Dracula finds an empty house. I think I know what you are and I think you shouldn't tell us. :-$
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby e_i_pi on Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:51 am

strokem1257 wrote:e_i_pi I would like you to explain yourself about your role-block. none of us know how you role blocked him so we are just supposed to take your word on it that you KNOW what is going on now... maybe you are just trying to cover up for your scum buddy and make him look good. I think it may be likely that a mafia may have a one time double shot kill. it is a pmc game... so I will put a FOS e_i_pi

FoS at me lol, weak dude. Yeah, I'm a double-voting, role-blocking vampire, that makes sense. :roll: My role-block is a half-roleblock. This should answer GodEmperorQ and naxus. Also, regarding my comment "it all makes sense to me":
The tall figure walked among the shadows and seen its target. He was sure it was a vampire, he shouted and the target turned too face him. He shot his stake gun straight towards the heart of his victim but it never sunk in properly and the figure turned and fleed.

The parts in blue I assume to be falko, and the parts in red me. Which explains why he shot the target, but didn't kill him. It was a half-kill due to me, which I assume equates to a no-kill but not a complete block. Now I have no confirmation from PMHugh that the story involves me, or that falko is definitely a vig, but the fact that falko has claimed that all along, and that I half-blocked him, and that this is the night story - well, as I said, it all makes perfect sense to me.

Reading back, strokem hasn't claimed a vig role (unless I missed it), it was potential rolescumming by SEA - strokem claimed to be not an ordinary townie. Also, stroke has a history of revenge voting, which I guess for now explains him FoS'ing me. I don't have any reason to continue FoS'ing him any more, so I'll retract that. I'm retaining the vote for Squirrel at the moment.

As I recall, back on page 12 I claimed suspicion of captainwalrus, masterchief, and MeDeFe. As for these three:
  • captainwalrus - stroke claims to be suspicious of him and to have role-blocked him. I want to know the details here
  • masterchief - still lurking I see. How many posts has he had?
  • MeDeFe - claims to have been the role-blocker for part 1 of the night story
So we have both strokem and MeDeFe claiming to be the role-blocker for the first paragraph of the story. I think I've explained myself well enough, and exonerated falko in the process. What is the story with CW, stroke, and MeDeFe? I think it's time you guys backed up your sketchy claims.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby strokem1257 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:39 am

strokem1257 wrote: I am a vigilante townie

I am suspects multi.... and how exactly do you act like a fircoal? :P

This was back on page like 11 in one of my big torrents. You may have missed it.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:43 am

eipi and Squirrel, I do not claim to be a roleblocker. I claim that my role can account for the lack of a scum kill, unfortunately I can not confirm if it does because I don't know, but it's likely.

Also, strokem has not claimed to be a roleblocker but a vigilante, and captain walrus claims to have protected naxus. Why are you spreading misinformations, eipi?

Really, claims so far:

Falko targets naxus
eipi blocks Falko
strokem targets CW
CW protects naxus
The scum didn't kill anyone and that might be due to me but even I can't know for sure whether it actually is.


Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

Dracula finds an empty house. I think I know what you are and I think you shouldn't tell us. :-$

This is ambiguous... would you tell me in a pm why you think I shouldn't tell what I am? Is it because you think I have an important role or because you think I'm scum?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Stroop on Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:00 am

MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

Dracula finds an empty house. I think I know what you are and I think you shouldn't tell us. :-$

This is ambiguous... would you tell me in a pm why you think I shouldn't tell what I am? Is it because you think I have an important role or because you think I'm scum?

I'm not allowed to tell you by PM, but yes, I would.

I think you shouldn't reveal your role because if I am right you are town and it wouldn't be very good for your survival. You're not necessarily important, but every townie is good to have :)
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:23 am

I'm not liking the secretism of MeDeFe. You're are basically saying, "I'm a townie and I am powerful but I can't tell you anything about it. But, for your own progress, u must trust me even though I give you no reason to." However, I also see the reasoning of why you do not want to claim. With the many claims we've had so far, just giving more only benefits scum.

If anyone has any other idea as to why the vamps did not get a kill last night, please speak up now. If no one can provide an alternative to MeDeFe's suggestion, I will assume he's telling the truth and he need not claim.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:06 am

Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

Dracula finds an empty house. I think I know what you are and I think you shouldn't tell us. :-$

This is ambiguous... would you tell me in a pm why you think I shouldn't tell what I am? Is it because you think I have an important role or because you think I'm scum?

I'm not allowed to tell you by PM, but yes, I would.

I think you shouldn't reveal your role because if I am right you are town and it wouldn't be very good for your survival. You're not necessarily important, but every townie is good to have :)

What? We can't talk by pm?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:09 am

MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

Dracula finds an empty house. I think I know what you are and I think you shouldn't tell us. :-$

This is ambiguous... would you tell me in a pm why you think I shouldn't tell what I am? Is it because you think I have an important role or because you think I'm scum?

I'm not allowed to tell you by PM, but yes, I would.

I think you shouldn't reveal your role because if I am right you are town and it wouldn't be very good for your survival. You're not necessarily important, but every townie is good to have :)

What? We can't talk by pm?

I don't think you can unless you are scum and it is at night... so is that an admission of guilt there? and dragging down your scum buddy too?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby God Emperor Q on Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:50 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

Dracula finds an empty house. I think I know what you are and I think you shouldn't tell us. :-$

This is ambiguous... would you tell me in a pm why you think I shouldn't tell what I am? Is it because you think I have an important role or because you think I'm scum?

I'm not allowed to tell you by PM, but yes, I would.

I think you shouldn't reveal your role because if I am right you are town and it wouldn't be very good for your survival. You're not necessarily important, but every townie is good to have :)

What? We can't talk by pm?

FOS Stroop. I think Stroop is trying to get MeDeFe to admit his powers, and see whether he is worth killing or not.

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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:10 pm

I am suspect's multi, and I still haven't figured out how to act like a fircoal... any ideas anyone?
PMC asked me to try to do a vote count before he left today. He mentioned something like he would be gone for a few days. idk for certain. but we shall see. So here goes.

Vote Count!

Mr. S (3) - Falko, e_i_pi, GEQ
Falko (1) -stroke

I believe this is correct. anyone else care to verify?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:40 pm

e_i_pi wrote: Yeah, I'm a double-voting, role-blocking vampire



Umm... Did he just claim vmpire?


Also stroop seems like he is trying to help out his scum buddy (MeDeFe) by vouching for him that he is a town power role before he claimes so he doesn't have to fake claim.

Vote stroop
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Falkomagno on Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:15 pm

strokem1257 wrote:
strokem1257 wrote: I am a vigilante townie

I am suspects multi.... and how exactly do you act like a fircoal? :P

This was back on page like 11 in one of my big torrents. You may have missed it.


And...can you refreh our memory...why did you claimed????
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Stroop on Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:19 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

Dracula finds an empty house. I think I know what you are and I think you shouldn't tell us. :-$

This is ambiguous... would you tell me in a pm why you think I shouldn't tell what I am? Is it because you think I have an important role or because you think I'm scum?

I'm not allowed to tell you by PM, but yes, I would.

I think you shouldn't reveal your role because if I am right you are town and it wouldn't be very good for your survival. You're not necessarily important, but every townie is good to have :)

What? We can't talk by pm?

You can not talk with anyone by PM or anywhere else outside of this thread unless your role specifically says you can.

God Emperor Q wrote:FOS Stroop. I think Stroop is trying to get MeDeFe to admit his powers, and see whether he is worth killing or not.

I'm trying to make sure MeDeFe doesn't claim, whereas others are demanding clarification. :roll:

captainwalrus wrote:
e_i_pi wrote: Yeah, I'm a double-voting, role-blocking vampire



Umm... Did he just claim vmpire?

You ripped that out of context, not the sign of a townie genuinely looking for leads.

Also stroop seems like he is trying to help out his scum buddy (MeDeFe) by vouching for him that he is a town power role before he claimes so he doesn't have to fake claim.

Vote stroop

If you want MeDeFe to claim, you can still make him do that; I can't force everyone to look the other way. I am just saying that that won't be in the town's interests. Ignore me if you want; I'm pretty sure I would ignore you.

strokem1257 wrote:I am suspect's multi, and I still haven't figured out how to act like a fircoal... any ideas anyone?
PMC asked me to try to do a vote count before he left today. He mentioned something like he would be gone for a few days. idk for certain. but we shall see. So here goes.

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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Falkomagno on Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:29 pm

MeDeFe wrote:Really, claims so far:

Falko targets naxus
eipi blocks Falko
strokem targets CW
CW protects naxus


This is a good call. Look, my lack of effectiveness can be wide explain by de eipi action. The claim of CW is totally unnecessary, and In fact, unbelievable...why CW would want to protect a player who wasn't active??? that would be a very very lucky choice. In the absence of eipi claim, that could explain why naxus is alive, but with the information that we have by now it's so much...bullshitish

I think that I can get along with that.

unvote vote CW...damn...I knew it


MeDeFe wrote:The scum didn't kill anyone and that might be due to me but even I can't know for sure whether it actually is.


That can be easily explained in a cult game. And you know, if a Vampire bites you, you become in an evil force too....-why nobody take that statement seriously??-
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:36 pm

I never seem to have good reasons for who I protect. I picked naxus just cause. He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:44 pm

ok, I kind of also think I get what Stroop is hinting at and the night scene would confirm that. Does it start with a c, stroop?

Pi, can you clarify this half roleblock thing, you mentioned that and didnt expand.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Stroop on Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:49 pm

cena-rules wrote:ok, I kind of also think I get what Stroop is hinting at and the night scene would confirm that. Does it start with a c, stroop?

Yes! =D>
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:42 pm

strokem1257 wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:This is ambiguous... would you tell me in a pm why you think I shouldn't tell what I am? Is it because you think I have an important role or because you think I'm scum?

I'm not allowed to tell you by PM, but yes, I would.

I think you shouldn't reveal your role because if I am right you are town and it wouldn't be very good for your survival. You're not necessarily important, but every townie is good to have :)

What? We can't talk by pm?

I don't think you can unless you are scum and it is at night... so is that an admission of guilt there? and dragging down your scum buddy too?

"Admission of guilt", you're kidding. If I were scum I would have remained silent in the first place and never even mentioned (implicitly) that there is one attempted kill too few in the night scene when compared to the claims. Noone stepping in saying "Oh no, you don't" as one of the vigs is about to pull the trigger. Noone jumping in front of someone else taking the hit for them. With two vigs and the scum there should be three attempts in all, but there are only two.
Unless pmc got lazy and decided not to describe the blocked action, but then he's boooring.

I thought pming others you trust to be townies with general hints was fine as long as you don't quote any of pmc's messages. A blanket ban on pms was big news to me. I just sent pmc a message asking him to clarify what may and may not be said so not everyone can read it.

As for my claim, it has partly to do with the fact that I'm not convinced this is a cult game, not at all. I admit there's a chance, but from the night scene ("these vampires") and my personal knowledge that my action might account for a failed kill by the scum, I'm more inclined to doubt it.
I don't want everyone rushing to conclusions, "there's no kill, this is a cult game", the scum clearly had a target but didn't get it, we have no idea what they would have done with it, eaten it or turned it or something else entirely.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Crazyirishman on Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:03 pm

captainwalrus wrote:
e_i_pi wrote: Yeah, I'm a double-voting, role-blocking vampire



Umm... Did he just claim vmpire?


Also stroop seems like he is trying to help out his scum buddy (MeDeFe) by vouching for him that he is a town power role before he claimes so he doesn't have to fake claim.

Vote stroop


I think epi was joking
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Falkomagno on Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:10 pm

captainwalrus wrote:I never seem to have good reasons for who I protect. I picked naxus just cause. He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game.



There is no chance that you would know that naxus were targeted last night. Not in earth. Look...more scum points to you .............


-why are this scum still alive???-
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:31 pm

Stroop wrote:
cena-rules wrote:ok, I kind of also think I get what Stroop is hinting at and the night scene would confirm that. Does it start with a c, stroop?

Yes! =D>


In that case he should shut up rather quickly lol
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:36 pm

Falkomagno wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:I never seem to have good reasons for who I protect. I picked naxus just cause. He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game.



There is no chance that you would know that naxus were targeted last night. Not in earth. Look...more scum points to you .............


-why are this scum still alive???-


I don't know, I just decided to protect him, so I did. I didn't know he would be targeted but I didn't know I would be either. I didn't know who would be targeted and I'm not claiming to.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:27 pm

cena-rules wrote:
Stroop wrote:
cena-rules wrote:ok, I kind of also think I get what Stroop is hinting at and the night scene would confirm that. Does it start with a c, stroop?

Yes! =D>


In that case he should shut up rather quickly lol

Well, the only people I think he is fooling now is the newbies. I can only think of one role that starts with a 'c' and could explain the first paragraph so I'll assume you are it. I think anyone who knows the game pretty much knows what you are now.
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