[Beginner] Straight Mafia - TOWN WINS

[Streaker]

I am the cop streaker is mafia

Nice try.

Let's break this down:

-The real cop would have claimed that at the start of the day, AND together with the townies he could clear. Mistake 1.

-You were patient a few days for the day to start, and when no cop claim was done you took the chance of claiming it yourself and having an easy lynch so you win the game right here and now. Again, you waited too long, it doesn't make sense.
Mistake 2.

-You say you have me as scum, yet you even fail to vote me? I bet you are waiting for others to see if they follow you, and then vote me.
Mistake 3.

I await the REAL cop (if that is even in this game) to counterclaim rizky.
For me, it's now clear that rizky is scum.

Easy lynch today for town, Vote Rizky

[rizky_biznezz]

Look who comes back after being named scum.. I didn't claim straight away as I was hoping to save it to lure out ur partner.. If bos claimed townie after ur push for a mass claim I was going to as well in the hope that ur partner would be silly enough to throw out a cop claim then I would know for sure... The first night I investigated rose which is why I pointed out in several posts the next day that I didn't find rose suspicious.. Yes I should have voted but its quite frustrating to do on my phone

[rizky_biznezz]

Why would I claim knowing that there is a cop out there that doesn't make sense

[Streaker]

Why would I claim knowing that there is a cop out there that doesn't make sense

How do you know there is a cop out there?

And more points to prove that rizky's claim is false, only a single night action? Probably doesn't dare to lie more then that.

[AladdinSane]

How do you know there is a cop out there?

IB was the backup Cop, and the existence of a backup Cop, to me, implies the existence of a Cop.

[rizky_biznezz]

I know there is a cop because it is me.. Falsely claiming it if I was scum would be dangerous knowing that I would be countered.. The only person who might counter me now that u have cast doubt on me would be ur scum buddy

[rizky_biznezz]

There was only 2 nights I can only give u my 2 actions... So not sure what ur getting at there

[AladdinSane]

RB has looked pretty solid all the way through - why would he take a chance on claiming Cop if he was scum, knowing that there is a real Cop out there? On the other hand, I've been publicly suspicious of Streaker almost all the way through, so RB claiming Cop and that Streaker is Mafia seems credible to me. Also, Streaker seems to be getting a little strident in his defense claims, whereas earlier he seemed a lot calmer.

But is Mitch his scum partner, or is it DJP? Against Mitch is his recent role-fishing. On the other hand, there is the fact that DJP wasn't NKed. Okay, it is plausible that, as he claims, I was targetted for NK and he protected me, but wouldn't scum have then targetted him? Can the Doc protect himself? I'm a bit unclear on that.

[AladdinSane]

Also, there hasn't been a counterclaim for Doc against DJP's claim. That seems to work in his favor.

[rizky_biznezz]

I can't decide who his partner is yet... But I think I will get an idea when they get on board his case on me.. Wont help u though seeing as u guys have the ultimate choice here lol..

I think I'm leaning more to mitch being his partner though.. I think DJ would have saved u after all the cop talk so they went rose instead and they didn't kill DJ because they already made him look so suspicious that he was an easy target to send us after today

[Streaker]

I know there is a cop because it is me.. Falsely claiming it if I was scum would be dangerous knowing that I would be countered.. The only person who might counter me now that u have cast doubt on me would be ur scum buddy

You waited to claim because you were waiting to see if there is a cop in the game. After a couple days into this 'Day 3', no cop had claimed so you took the chance.

My response was to your:

Why would I claim knowing that there is a cop out there that doesn't make sense

because you CANNOT know for sure there is a cop if you are scum. This statement of yours doesn't make sense.

It's a clever scum play you make: either you get my lynched and you win right now, or you are countered and die, but your partner now has the information needed to have a good chance at winning the game.

You probably would have gotten away with it if you did that sooner. It's too obvious now that you waited for someone to claim it first.

Alladin, you are the one most likely to follow rizky here, so it's important you read this situation carefully and decide.

-Waited too long to claim, waiting to see if the cop claimed
-Not claiming who investigated, so didn't clear anyone else to help town
-Not voting me first, despite having the obvious leader role if you are the real cop
-Clearing only 1 name after being called out for it

It would be logical indeed if there is a real cop, yet not necesarrily so, but I await a counterclaim. In any case, rizky should be lynched today.

Fastposted a couple times:

I'm getting more 'defensive' because this is where the game is potentially lost for us. No mistakes at this point, or it's over.

RB pretty solid, yes I agree. One of my main town reads, until this claim. Potentially the real cop, if a mafia framer is active.
I only saw RB clearing TWR, so only half of your night actions. There is no need to hold back information, unless you have to lie because you are not the real cop.

[AladdinSane]

I can see a mitch/streaker pair and a streaker/DJ pair but I can't see a mitch/DJ pair so I'm seeing streaker as the common link here..

That's pretty much the way I'm seeing it too, RB. Let's see if any counterclaims for Cop or Doc emerge.

[Streaker]

I can see a mitch/streaker pair and a streaker/DJ pair but I can't see a mitch/DJ pair so I'm seeing streaker as the common link here..

That's pretty much the way I'm seeing it too, RB. Let's see if any counterclaims for Cop or Doc emerge.

A lot of cooperation between the 2 of you. Endgame of scum pair? Would make sense... that means DJ is actually telling the truth about him being doc...

DJ, if you really are the doc, sorry man. You'll need to get this vote right today.

[AladdinSane]

-Waited too long to claim, waiting to see if the cop claimed
-Not claiming who investigated, so didn't clear anyone else to help town
-Not voting me first, despite having the obvious leader role if you are the real cop
-Clearing only 1 name after being called out for it

It would be logical indeed if there is a real cop, yet not necesarrily so, but I await a counterclaim. In any case, rizky should be lynched today.

I only saw RB clearing TWR, so only half of your night actions. There is no need to hold back information, unless you have to lie because you are not the real cop.

I'm not sure why you are saying RB has only given us half his night actions. He investigated TWR on N1, found him Town, then investigated you on N2, found you Mafia. That's 2/2 night actions.

I don't think it matters that RB hasn't voted you yet. There is plenty of time for that, and if he knows you are scum for sure, then his story that he was trying to flush out the other scum is plausible.

Yes, he delayed his claim, but plausibly to see if scum tried to falsely claim Cop.

[rizky_biznezz]

If I was scum I would have assumed aladdin was the cop like everyone else so would have been pretty silly claiming cop..

Those were my 2 reads rose and u.. So not sure what it is u think I'm holding back.. If rose hadn't of been killed during the night I would have claimed earlier seeing as I could clear a town as well but instead I tried to make my case on scum and hoped when no one claimed cop that ur buddy would

[AladdinSane]

I really want to hear what Bos has to say, since she is the only one that, for me, could counterclaim either Cop or Doc with any credibility. If Bos doesn't counterclaim, I would tend to go with RB=Cop, DJP=Doc, I think. Will wait and see.

[bosaardbeitje]

On my phone, so have to keep it short. Bos says: Nice knowing you Streak and goodbye! vote Streaker

[madmitch]

I really want to hear what Bos has to say, since she is the only one that, for me, could counterclaim either Cop or Doc with any credibility. If Bos doesn't counterclaim, I would tend to go with RB=Cop, DJP=Doc, I think. Will wait and see.

Well that changes everything, have to agree with Aladdins post , aw shit can't do it ,DO NOT BELIEVE STREAKER IS SCUM . I think the scum pair is RIZKY AND ALADDIN lets here what Ragian has to say for now VOTE RIZKY

[Streaker]

Mitch, mate, I am Ragian... Or better, I replaced him. We need to convince DJpatrick (unlikely, because I stalked him like that), bosaardbeitje and Alladin. Well, 2 of those 3 have to believe us and vote rizky, only then can we win.

[rizky_biznezz]

So when DJ makes a mistake in a post he must be scummy and u want to see him dig his way out but when mitch does it he is ur mate and u help to clear it up for him...

Vote streaker

[rizky_biznezz]

Mitch first u say u have to agree with aladdins post then u switch and say we are both scum... What the?

[Streaker]

So when DJ makes a mistake in a post he must be scummy and u want to see him dig his way out but when mitch does it he is ur mate and u help to clear it up for him...

Vote streaker

Aaaaand now the 'cop' votes on his 'confirmed' target. Like I said, waiting for someone else to start. Alladin, you need to see through this

[rizky_biznezz]

Of course I was going to vote for my confirmed scum.. Not really a big rush though we have heaps of time

[rizky_biznezz]

I thought aladdin was my scum buddy streaker make up ur mind

[Streaker]

Of course I was going to vote for my confirmed scum.. Not really a big rush though we have heaps of time

Then why vote me exactly a few hours after you call me out, instead of waiting a couple days?
No, you did exactly as I thought you would. Let someone else go first.

Rizky, I am still doubting. It's either DJ or Alladin to be your scumpartner. We'll see it in the votes. I have a stronger town feeling with Alladin, but had that same feeling with you so yeah.