[Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [8/14] D4:Twisted Pattern

[Talapus]

since that point he has commented only on storr/madmitch basicly and so, in my opinion he has so far not brought much to the table. + is odd for no day action. Which is enough reason for me to vote him.

It's day 1, hate to break it to you but there isn't much to go on yet. But you and endgame definitely brought you two to my attention for coming to your own conclusions about what I said.

Again, I never claimed I have no day action. And because I didn't claim I did or did not have a day action sounds like 50% of the reason you want me gone is based on this post alone. You do realize that with this same logic you would have to want to vote most the other players in this game because I haven't heard claims of that nature yet either right?

So endgame likes the phish and you like to leap to conclusions based on no facts. I will let you two decide. In any other mafia game, which action would you find more scummy based on those two traits?

Would you vote yourself or endgame?

Because again, it's day one and both of you are obviously opinionated and I am curious as to which of the two traits you have exibited you find more scummy. Please share....

[Endgame422]

As in my action? I didn't get to visit anyone if that's what you are implying.

I guess this is the reason we all think you have no action tal. I guess you could have an action and not a visit but you have to admit this is misleading at best. Then you say you NEVER said you couldnt make visits but thats exactly what this says?
Why lie?

[Talapus]

As in my action? I didn't get to visit anyone if that's what you are implying.

I guess this is the reason we all think you have no action tal. I guess you could have an action and not a visit but you have to admit this is misleading at best. Then you say you NEVER said you couldnt make visits but thats exactly what this says?
Why lie?

Thanks for making it easy.

Vote: endgame

[Endgame422]

First off, you seem to think storr has an amazing amount of power at this point. I think we have all discussed he only got two votes and he has been fair with how he has used them so far. So by all means if you have an arguement against me please make it because the one up above is completely wrong. I NEVER said I couldn't make visits.

[Metsfanmax]

As in my action? I didn't get to visit anyone if that's what you are implying.

I guess this is the reason we all think you have no action tal. I guess you could have an action and not a visit but you have to admit this is misleading at best. Then you say you NEVER said you couldnt make visits but thats exactly what this says?
Why lie?

Didn't you see the part where rishaed was complaining about the fact that two people didn't even send in their day actions?

[StorrZerg]

Ran over madmitch yep

"If i had a vote I would vote virus"

Yeah I totally steam rolled him to thst vote. You are a joke this game mets. Lmk when you are going to start playing

[Metsfanmax]

Ran over madmitch yep

"If i had a vote I would vote virus"

Yeah I totally steam rolled him to thst vote. You are a joke this game mets. Lmk when you are going to start playing

Lmk when you are going to acknowledge what your role actually is

[Endgame422]

And the OMGUS vote.
I was not really thinking you were scum tal i was pretty neutral towards you and just thinking that your claim could provide some info but you have gotten super defensive(under only 2 votes i think)and as far as i read it you are caught in a lie.
Thats quite a resume for Day one.
Fpd by mets/storr. Yes i saw rishs post but tal was posting day one. No way he was the other player who missed the deadline(streaker being the 1st i believe)
And storr thoughts on tal right now? You think hes lying or no?

[Metsfanmax]

Ran over madmitch yep

"If i had a vote I would vote virus"

Yeah I totally steam rolled him to thst vote. You are a joke this game mets. Lmk when you are going to start playing

Apparently you have some difficulty with chronology. madmitch made that comment before we all knew that you had his vote -- indeed, that comment was what prompted us to figure this issue out -- and well before you loudly implemented your stated policy of requiring them to vote despite not having a vote. And since then, he has stated clearly that the vote is yours and told you to vote the way you want to. You insisting that this virus vote somehow represents madmitch's wishes is thus a farce. And I will lynch all liars.

[Talapus]

First off, you seem to think storr has an amazing amount of power at this point. I think we have all discussed he only got two votes and he has been fair with how he has used them so far. So by all means if you have an arguement against me please make it because the one up above is completely wrong. I NEVER said I couldn't make visits.

Were you dropped repeatedly as a child? Eat a lot of paint chips back in the day? I shouldn't have to spell it out for you which is why my vote for you will stay.

Someone visited me last night and we had a "pleasant chat" reand back a few pagers and find this and I didn't get to visit anyone last night. Now, I'm not sure why you can't connect the dots to realize I ended up staying put and not visiting someone but if you seriously still don't get it I am not explaning it any more.

[Talapus]

And the OMGUS vote.
I was not really thinking you were scum tal i was pretty neutral towards you and just thinking that your claim could provide some info but you have gotten super defensive(under only 2 votes i think)and as far as i read it you are caught in a lie.
Thats quite a resume for Day one.
Fpd by mets/storr. Yes i saw rishs post but tal was posting day one. No way he was the other player who missed the deadline(streaker being the 1st i believe)
And storr thoughts on tal right now? You think hes lying or no?

Super defensive? You and virus apparently can't figure out something that is fairly damn obvious with out it literally being spelled out for you. It's not defensive, it's my annoyance dealing with stupidity.

What lie exactly? Because what you have so far pointed out isn't a lie at all so unless I missed something, you still don't grasp what is being said.

[StorrZerg]

Nothing you are saying makes me a liar mets.
Madmitch is welcome to unvote and vote someone else.
I just made a new clause for trading a vote and hold them a accountable. And Im not giving them a choice on that matter.

[Metsfanmax]

Someone visited me last night and we had a "pleasant chat" reand back a few pagers and find this and I didn't get to visit anyone last night. Now, I'm not sure why you can't connect the dots to realize I ended up staying put and not visiting someone but if you seriously still don't get it I am not explaning it any more.

Well, it sounds an awful lot like you're saying there's a day roleblocker. If you won't spell that out I will, because it's useful information for town to have.

[Endgame422]

Last night? Its day one.
And idk how you would expect me to know that mars post of we had a pleasant chat and thats it=i blocked talapus from visiting someone.
Is that what happened? And mars is some kind of dayvisitroleblock?
Or are you saying you chose not make a visit?
You can keep up with the name calling and maybe i am missing something here(very towny btw) but this just does not make sense to me.
Fpd again by mets/storr/tal

[StorrZerg]

End mad? Cause his lead got shot down lol

[StorrZerg]

Virus where is your reevaluation

[Talapus]

Well, it sounds an awful lot like you're saying there's a day roleblocker. If you won't spell that out I will, because it's useful information for town to have.

Thats an option I guess. I think it far more likely I didn't get to visit someone because maybe the someone I was going to visit was already gone. Who knows. But it was already said someone visited me and we had a nice chat and I certainly didn't get to visit anyone so one can conclude I stayed put. and once again....GET TO.

I'm going to say it again because two people here will miss it otherwise, you ready? GET TO....Get to and never are NOT the same thing.

I was traveling back from Oahu when this day action thing got sent out and got my action in very late.

[Metsfanmax]

Nothing you are saying makes me a liar mets.
Madmitch is welcome to unvote and vote someone else.
I just made a new clause for trading a vote and hold them a accountable. And Im not giving them a choice on that matter.

The entire basis for this is a farce. You said that the reason for doing this was to make sure they didn't just trail off and stop posting because they don't have a vote. But madmitch has been posting consistently despite actively telling you that he wants you to use the vote your way because he thinks you're good at scum hunting. No one needs you to bully them into being active -- they're being active anyway. We don't need Storr to play mafia police; stop thinking you are that important.

Indeed, if you were being true to your words and not lying, you should be pushing for a madmitch lynch right now, because he refused to accept your new clause. A vote on anyone other than madmitch proves this has zero to do with accountability, and thus that you are a liar.

[StorrZerg]

Haven't lied yet.
Sick play mets sick. Keep being trash

[virus90]

tal in several posts can be interpreted that you dont have a day action. and now at this point you still havent fully concluded if you have or not, you just scream that you havent said it. but i will list why i interpreted that you dont have/ dont know about day actions.

if I HAD MY VOTE I WOULD VOTE VIRUS BUT I CAN,T I ALSO TRADED MY VOTE AWAY

For what? What benefit did you recieve for trading it away? A towns only real day power is their vote so unless you got something awesome, this is a fairly scummy move so you need to elaborate.

I don,t know how many people have the ability to visit somebody but I know I did that was my only day ability and hopefully I can use it for town . Ido not understand endgame vote against me but it is quite unremarkable and slightly scummy FOS

Now I'm confused. You said visiting someone was your only day ability but in the prior post you didn't know what you were trading for. That makes it sound like you instigated the trade but until you found out what you were getting you weren't going to go through with it. So what is it Mitch, visit someone and trade, or just visit and the trade some how happened?

Because it sounds like you have more then the ability to just visit people. Also, was this a fair trade? Because you said you got something awesome. The reason I ask is because it is fairly easy to prove if someone traded something mutually with you. However, there is the possibility you visited someone and stole an ability and there was no trade. So again, please clarify.

as mentioned in my original post, i have the day action to visit people aswell, without knowing what it does, and others have claimed this aswell, from the selected bit in this post i have concluded in a previous post already that this was to my interpretation not known to you.
then you said

As in my action? I didn't get to visit anyone if that's what you are implying.

so you can go mad and stuff about people misunterprating your posts but honestly. it would have helped anyone way more if you would have just immediatly reacted to my initial post by stating if you had a day action or not, cause even now when we are still discussing this, i still dont know if you have it or not. and its not me or others who are to blame for that. i think anyone can see why i (and others) interpreted it as i did.

[StorrZerg]

Fantastic defensive post virus, care to move the discussion forward. Because the way i see things, it was a communication error.

It honestly wasn't needed to explain yourself, end is still scummy because of how he sheeped.

[Talapus]

so you can go mad and stuff about people misunterprating your posts but honestly. it would have helped anyone way more if you would have just immediatly reacted to my initial post by stating if you had a day action or not, cause even now when we are still discussing this, i still dont know if you have it or not. and its not me or others who are to blame for that. i think anyone can see why i (and others) interpreted it as i did.

On Day 1? Hell what a great idea lets all come out and claim what we did with our actions. While we're at it lets throw out roles and names.... I mean seriously man I don't care how you interpret something but when it becomes apparent you interpreted it wrong suck it up and move on. You were one that started this but it was end's reaction to following along plus multiple posts of still not getting it that made me vote for him and my vote for him will stay.

[Endgame422]

Well, it sounds an awful lot like you're saying there's a day roleblocker. If you won't spell that out I will, because it's useful information for town to have.

Thats an option I guess. I think it far more likely I didn't get to visit someone because maybe the someone I was going to visit was already gone. Who knows. But it was already said someone visited me and we had a nice chat and I certainly didn't get to visit anyone so one can conclude I stayed put. and once again....GET TO.

I'm going to say it again because two people here will miss it otherwise, you ready? GET TO....Get to and never are NOT the same thing.

I was traveling back from Oahu when this day action thing got sent out and got my action in very late.

Thats some serious semantics.
You sent a visit action in. Just because nothing happened does not mean you didnt GET TO send it in.
I see your point but why be misleading about it?
Why couldnt you just say "my action missed or whatever",like you just did,when asked instead of being cryptic and then freaking and OMGUSing me when i miss your use of get to visit implying somehow your visit failed?
My point was to learn about the mechanics of day visits,i even stated that with my vote.I also stated i wasnt thinking you were scum. You could have just said your last post and i would have been satisfied from the get go. The fact virus missed your meaning as well means it wasnt THAT obvious
Mission accomplished sorta. I think everyone has a visit action despite several of them doing nothing/possibly being blocked.
Talk about blood from a stone though. Sorry i ruined your day tal
UNVOTE
Fpd by virus/storr/tal

[Endgame422]

Even mets whos a phd for gods sake thought you were claiming you missed your action.

Didn't you see the part where rishaed was complaining about the fact that two people didn't even send in their day actions?

[StorrZerg]

Even mets whos a phd for gods sake thought you were claiming you missed your action.

Didn't you see the part where rishaed was complaining about the fact that two people didn't even send in their day actions?

Please keep bringing irrelevant information to the game, and stalling on this issue. I'm stalled with mets, no reason for you guys to bicker over this.