[Official] Team CC Mafia [Finished]

[Commander9]

I get that. But what keeps him from being mafia and saying his correct mod name (with 0% counteclaim chance)? Had Hank said Nagerous yesterday, nobody would have counterclaimed. Would that mean he is town?

If you don't know which mods are town and which mods are mafia (and perhaps which mods are cult), then saying the mod's name means nothing.

100% agreed - we WANT both.

[Bleed_Green]

Just got back from the cabin and see that I had a lot of catching up to do. Shield please post your claim, mod and role so we can make an informed decision.

The night scene does give the idea of a cult/recruiter in the midst which I am leery towards saf for do to is day 1 suggestions, but at this time I think I am leaning more towards is experience picking up on that then anything. Will have to wait to see what shield says.

[TheSaxlad]

Vote Count

# firth4eva
# Metsfanmax
# Haggis McMutton
# Victor Sullivan
# Bleed_Green.
# Jimfinn
# DoomYoshi
# Gilligan
# jonty125
# commander9
# naxus
# Rodion
# jrh_cardinal
# safariguy5
# Army of God
# Pancakemix
# shieldgenerator7(8-safariguy,jimfinn,jonty125,haggis,doomyoshi,gilligan,metsfanmax,jeraado) L-2
# jeraado

18 Alive, 10 to Lynch

[firth4eva]

We can't determine which mods go where until we have more info.

That's why we get the name first, discuss that a bit, see who thinks what, then get the role. This is assuming mods are good and bad using some logic and not at random.

[Commander9]

That's why we get the name first, discuss that a bit, see who thinks what, then get the role. This is assuming mods are good and bad using some logic and not at random.

Disagree. If we had gotten Nag as a name on Day 1, we'd have likely left him alone and he turned out to be scum. We need both role and name straight away as we're much more likely to come out on top like this.

[jonty125]

We can't determine which mods go where until we have more info.

That's why we get the name first, discuss that a bit, see who thinks what, then get the role. This is assuming mods are good and bad using some logic and not at random.

The name is pointless. It's like pointing at burger and ask what is it and getting the answer McDonald's. It doesn't help anyone.

[firth4eva]

fos commander for saying he would clear someone based on the mod they are. WTF dude?

Anyway, I think he should give the mod name and role now anyway after this big hoo-haa over whether or not to give it or not. My reasoning was that it would create discussion about which mods are scum and which are town and later in the game someone might not be able to claim who they are, claim the name of a different mod, be counterclaimed and then subsequently be lynched instead of us just believing a claim because there are no counterclaims.

[Commander9]

fos commander for saying he would clear someone based on the mod they are. WTF dude?

Anyway, I think he should give the mod name and role now anyway after this big hoo-haa over whether or not to give it or not. My reasoning was that it would create discussion about which mods are scum and which are town and later in the game someone might not be able to claim who they are, claim the name of a different mod, be counterclaimed and then subsequently be lynched instead of us just believing a claim because there are no counterclaims.

You are either a complete retard or you just like to portray to be one.

You're the one who wanted just the name and I said that name is not enough as we can't recognize from the name, so you switch our positions. Gee....

[firth4eva]

No, you said you would not lynch hank if he had just said he was nagerous. Then I explained why I have changed my position from just wanting the name to wanting the name and role.

[Commander9]

No, you said you would not lynch hank if he had just said he was nagerous. Then I explained why I have changed my position from just wanting the name to wanting the name and role.

Please, please read what others write:

Disagree. If we had gotten Nag as a name on Day 1, we'd have likely left him alone and he turned out to be scum. We need both role and name straight away as we're much more likely to come out on top like this.

And now, this is the reason why I said that just name isn't enough and that we have to get both the name and the role to fully have the ability to decide. When you noticed that you slipped with just the name, you switched your ideas... Very wishy-washy. You are already high on suspects list for most of us - and you're not helping yourself with posts like these.

[shieldgenerator7]

Alright, don't lynch me. I'm King Achilles (Town Target)
Whoever finds me at night first gets a day kill during the day. The hunters are the people looking for me, and hank (nagerous) was one of them, and Andy_Dufrense is the other one (though I don't know which one of us is Andy).
My personal goal is to find Andy and nagerous before they find me, that way I can stop them from getting a day kill.
So since nagerous is dead all i need to do is find Andy tonight.
I was hoping that maybe safariguy was Andy so I investigated him last night and he isn't, so I'll have to try again tonight.

[Commander9]

Alright, don't lynch me. I'm King Achilles (Town Target)
Whoever finds me at night first gets a day kill during the day. The hunters are the people looking for me, and hank (nagerous) was one of them, and Andy_Dufrense is the other one (though I don't know which one of us is Andy).
My personal goal is to find Andy and nagerous before they find me, that way I can stop them from getting a day kill.
So since nagerous is dead all i need to do is find Andy tonight.
I was hoping that maybe safariguy was Andy so I investigated him last night and he isn't, so I'll have to try again tonight.

Okay, he's lying - I'm King Achilles. Finish him.

[firth4eva]

If we had gotten Nag as a name on Day 1, we'd have likely left him alone

That is what I fos'ed you for

And now, this is the reason why I said that just name isn't enough and that we have to get both the name and the role to fully have the ability to decide. When you noticed that you slipped with just the name, you switched your ideas.

I didn't say never reveal the role, I just said say the name first and we can discuss whether or not he may be scum.

And before I even finish this, you have posted with just the name of your character you absolute hypocrite! You are seriously eating your words here.

Is king achilles even town? He seems third party from the scene. Commander we need your role to clarify this.

[Commander9]

Alright, don't lynch me. I'm King Achilles (Town Target)
Whoever finds me at night first gets a day kill during the day. The hunters are the people looking for me, and hank (nagerous) was one of them, and Andy_Dufrense is the other one (though I don't know which one of us is Andy).
My personal goal is to find Andy and nagerous before they find me, that way I can stop them from getting a day kill.
So since nagerous is dead all i need to do is find Andy tonight.
I was hoping that maybe safariguy was Andy so I investigated him last night and he isn't, so I'll have to try again tonight.

Okay, he's lying - I'm King Achilles. Finish him.

Damnit, I should have just picked inconsistencies in his claim rather than claiming. Oh well.

If we had gotten Nag as a name on Day 1, we'd have likely left him alone

That is what I fos'ed you for

And now, this is the reason why I said that just name isn't enough and that we have to get both the name and the role to fully have the ability to decide. When you noticed that you slipped with just the name, you switched your ideas.

I didn't say never reveal the role, I just said say the name first and we can discuss whether or not he may be scum.

And before I even finish this, you have posted with just the name of your character you absolute hypocrite! You are seriously eating your words here.

Is king achilles even town? He seems third party from the scene. Commander we need your role to clarify this.

To give them more town to come up with fake claim? Nice. If you need to decide, you go with the full package.

Actually, I got too excited and it's my bad - I shouldn't have claimed. Basically, I am 3rd party until town recruits me - as of now, I don't have any powers right now. (Scenes show that I am going to be key in town's victory).

[DoomYoshi]

Wow. It's like I walked into 3 blind mice arguing. Firth, you did switch positions it seems although Commander seemed to get very aggresive with the defense. When someone draws attention like that and (possibly) fakeclaims it is highly suspect. Further, I doubt someone would try to actually claim the target, since you basically end up screwing yourself then with the other hunters out there.

I agree with firth though. KA does sound 3rd Party.

Fastposted - Yea that was a big slipup comm9. Also firth, you seemed highly defensive of Hank yesterday and now you are defensive of Shield. What's up with that?

[firth4eva]

I defended Hank yesterday, yes, I thought him more noob than scum.

Where have I defended shield?

I am unsure whether or not to vote commander or shield. Shield claimed town, commander claimed 3rd party who will be key to scum or town but with the hunter down it might not be worth lynching him. Both of them claiming the same role means one of them dies today though.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Actually, I got too excited and it's my bad - I shouldn't have claimed. Basically, I am 3rd party until town recruits me - as of now, I don't have any powers right now. (Scenes show that I am going to be key in town's victory).

Wait, If that's true, why do you think it was a mistake to claim?

Actually, why didn't you claim that beforehand? If your win condition is with town, and you need to be recruited to become town and gain powers, claiming that ASAP seems like the right thing to do.

[DoomYoshi]

I defended Hank yesterday, yes, I thought him more noob than scum.

Where have I defended shield?

I am unsure whether or not to vote commander or shield. Shield claimed town, commander claimed 3rd party who will be key to scum or town but with the hunter down it might not be worth lynching him. Both of them claiming the same role means one of them dies today though.

I misread your intention. I assumed that by questioning Comm, you were trying to shift focus from shield. I see now that it is not the case.

[Commander9]

Wait, If that's true, why do you think it was a mistake to claim?

Actually, why didn't you claim that beforehand? If your win condition is with town, and you need to be recruited to become town and gain powers, claiming that ASAP seems like the right thing to do.

Because I could have ousted him without shifting attention to myself - now I basically have a bullseye on my back.

I defended Hank yesterday, yes, I thought him more noob than scum.

Where have I defended shield?

I am unsure whether or not to vote commander or shield. Shield claimed town, commander claimed 3rd party who will be key to scum or town but with the hunter down it might not be worth lynching him. Both of them claiming the same role means one of them dies today though.

I never mentioned anything about being able to be recruited by mafia - slip up? I'm more sure than ever than you are scum.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Wait, If that's true, why do you think it was a mistake to claim?

Actually, why didn't you claim that beforehand? If your win condition is with town, and you need to be recruited to become town and gain powers, claiming that ASAP seems like the right thing to do.

Because I could have ousted him without shifting attention to myself - now I basically have a bullseye on my back.

Yes, but why didn't you claim solely to be recruited and useful to town?
I mean, two options:

1. Claim about your condition immediately, you are protected and recruited and become a town power role, though one that's revealed and as such a target

2. Sit tight, hope to be randomly recruited? You have at least as much if not more chances to be NK'd before the recruiter finds you, not to mention the possibility that the recruiter dies/somehow becomes unable to recruit you.

I would definitely choose option 1.

[shieldgenerator7]

yeah, i think firth4eva seems scummy as well, seeing she defended hank yesterday and he flipped scum.
Not only that, she defended me and then denies it, even though she has no relation to me whatsoever.
i agree commander, firth said you might be helpful to scum, even though you didn't say anything about being key to scum; but then again you're an imposter. I'm the real King Achilles. I think you're helpful to scum because you're one of them. Or some other third party member.
Vote Commander9
But i really think firth may be andy, seeing how she slipped and said my role could be helpful to scum and third party and such. But i think you're a bigger threat, Commander9, becuase you try to kill a town PR (or semi-PR) by fake counterclaiming.

[safariguy5]

Team CC (Freedom Fighter)Mafia

12th January 2014

It was dark that night when Lackattack logged onto ConquerClub for the goodness knows how many time that day. People. Anyways Lack had things to do and people to talk to about his new idea, one that would shock ConquerClub, but one he believed was going to change his and ConquerClub’s future forever. Anyways, when he tried to Log On to his account for the first time in History he failed. He went to his little password book that he kept on the shelf, out of reach of the children, and tried again to no avail... Lack, utterly confused now, logged onto to his bork bork multi and looked for the problem. And there it was.


It seemed that his once most trusted Community Manager AndyDufresne had deserted him, and with the help of clapper, who had been seducing Andy, hacked Lacks account for himself. As realisation dawned on lack his computer binged and a Pm opened up into his browser. Lack was slightly confused but opened it all the same..., it read:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

To: Swedish Chef
From: TheSaxlad
Subject: Over here Lack, You’re our only hope.

Lack,

As you may have guessed by now, AndyDufresne has gone wild and taken over your account, he’s changing CC faster than you can say and most of the Team seems to be with him and not with you. Well don’t worry, keep yourself in hiding and we’ll sort out the problem, were here.

Oh and another thing. We managed to procure a script which deletes a user off Conquerclub, but it looks like they have got it too. It takes 24 hours to work, so we can only use it once a night.

On another note King Achilles has gone missing, nobody knows of his whereabouts, but as the support admin, were going to need him to defeat Andy and the rest of TeamCC.

Don’t worry Lack, stay low and we will help you out here.

TSL.

...................................

Players

# firth4eva
# Metsfanmax
# Haggis McMutton
# Victor Sullivan
# streaker Manbungalow(Insane Vanilla Townie) Night Killed Night 1
# Bleed_Green.
# Jimfinn
# DoomYoshi
# Gilligan
# jonty125
# commander9
# naxus
# Rodion
# jrh_cardinal
# safariguy5
# Army of God
# hank44soccer Nagerous (Mafia Hunter) Lynched Day 1
# Pancakemix
# shieldgenerator7
# jeraado

That really seems to indicated that KA would be third party more than he would be town right now. If you had claimed third party shield, it would have been more believable, but as of right now, I tend to believe Commander more than you.

[Commander9]

Yes, but why didn't you claim solely to be recruited and useful to town?
I mean, two options:

1. Claim about your condition immediately, you are protected and recruited and become a town power role, though one that's revealed and as such a target

2. Sit tight, hope to be randomly recruited? You have at least as much if not more chances to be NK'd before the recruiter finds you, not to mention the possibility that the recruiter dies/somehow becomes unable to recruit you.

I would definitely choose option 1.

Well, I can win as a survivor as well (not anymore though), so I was contributing to town, but I wasn't in the front lines to attract too much attention. I can see where you are coming from, but I didn't want to come out to soon - no need for a bullseye. If I come out too early, town would have soon had enough of power roles to protect and there might have been problems. This way (and aaggghhh....) now I'm out there and instead of helping out of shadows (go back to Day 1), I'll have to be protected.

yeah, i think firth4eva seems scummy as well, seeing she defended hank yesterday and he flipped scum.
Not only that, she defended me and then denies it, even though she has no relation to me whatsoever.
i agree commander, firth said you might be helpful to scum, even though you didn't say anything about being key to scum; but then again you're an imposter. I'm the real King Achilles. I think you're helpful to scum because you're one of them. Or some other third party member.
Vote Commander9
But i really think firth may be andy, seeing how she slipped and said my role could be helpful to scum and third party and such. But i think you're a bigger threat, Commander9, becuase you try to kill a town PR (or semi-PR) by fake counterclaiming.

Unless there would be 2 Achilles, which I consider almost 100% impossible, you know fully well that you've claimed a role with even a lot of holes in your explanation. No idea why you'd try to fake a role like that unless you specifically wanted to oust it and that your role isn't that important and you could be sacrificed to get me.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Well, I can win as a survivor as well (not anymore though), so I was contributing to town, but I wasn't in the front lines to attract too much attention. I can see where you are coming from, but I didn't want to come out to soon - no need for a bullseye. If I come out too early, town would have soon had enough of power roles to protect and there might have been problems. This way (and aaggghhh....) now I'm out there and instead of helping out of shadows (go back to Day 1), I'll have to be protected.

Ok, I guess I'll buy that.

Well, shield is clearly the one to lynch. Not only does it not make sense for him to be town, but even if everything he said is true, it still means that andy would get a free DK off of him tonight. Seriously, that was a pretty bad fake claim, even if he were telling the truth, you could make the argument that he should be killed.
Fortunately, he's not telling the truth, so we don't have to go there ...

unvote vote shield -- for emphasis, I'm already voting him

[pancakemix]

Per that scene, KA could definitely go either way. I don't like the idea of having that kind of role around. I say both should die.

Unvote (if needed) Vote Shield

That ought to be lynch-1. I recommend we kill commander tonight.