Restaurant Mafia Order Restored and Order Up

[Haggis_McMutton]

Hmm, re-read this.

Victor sticks out.

He has 21 posts out of those FOUR are actually serious and contributing something. Seriously check it out for yourself.

These 4 are:

Aspiring cook (roleblocker)

EBWOP.

Good enough for you?

That doesn't convince me your town-aligned, though, herk. Aren't roleblockers statistically mafia-aligned? unvote vote theherkman. Maybe my vote will get recorded right this time

This one seriously grabbed my attention. Roleblockers are usually scum? Really?

This is why you all should have voted Mr. Squirrel. I know for a fact he is mafia because of my role PM... Should have listened...

...says theherkman from beyond the grave even though HE'S F*CKING DEAD AND IT'S COMPLETELY IMPROBABLE THAT HE'D BE ABLE TO SPEAK FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE!!!!!!!!! Your flesh tasted like chicken, the kind of person you are, dear. It's rather fortunate that you died, I was just preparing the divorce papers. They taste better than your cooking, at least. Sorry, I'm just simply going on a rant and talking to a DEAD PERSON. Anyways, pip pip cheerio and vote DrewDude.

-Sully

P.S. maim what's left of theherkman

Second on the Drew waggon, right behind Flores. As Chu pointed out getting in on a wagon early is a good way to avoid suspicion.

I'm back and it seems people are once again facing my direction as a nice candidate to lynch. Take a good look at those who've been band-wagoning herk and I. I'd bet you'd find the scum votes within them if you looked hard enough. Being inconsistent even when I said I loved being scummy? Sounds like a waste of oxygen to have such a conversation. Instead of looking at the most obvious people you should take a look at who's using the obvious people as a shield. Now did I throw Herk under the bus? Yes. Would my vote have changed much if I didn't vote for him? Probably not. Like I said i'm not a fan of wasting time so if you wish to know anymore about me before a lynch occurs feel free to ask. You should investigate more before you decide to put the noose around my neck.

For my vote I'll go for the person that voted me first for this day.

Vote FloresDelMal

This is not a claim...

This was after about 3 pages of talking about Drew's double voter thing ...

We have two choices I can see. Decide to lynch Flores or pick up a no lynch. No one else is scummy enough in my eyes and nor do I think a case could really be developed in time. Besides I think it's pretty clear, at least to me that Flores is scummeh!

Vote: Flores

Sorry for the lull in my commenting, but Ive read up and agree with Fircoal: unvote, vote flores

this was putting Flores at L-1. This might seem to prove his innocence but imo:
0. There may well me other anti-town factions(especially if we give any weight to the last scene)
1. It was pretty clear Flores would get lynched. At this point it was her or a no lynch, and how many no lynches do we usually have around here?
2. After being scummates with Victor in Briasburg I can totally see him pulling this move.(we switched our roles telling the other scums that he's the godfather instead of me, just in case we had an usurper or something, also in one of his first Pm's he was already suggesting we sacrifice someone later on to improve our standing with town, ah, good times )

Victor seems the best bet to me: vote Victor

Might be a bit weak, but till someone makes a better case:
vote Victor

[DrewDude]

Darn, AWOL or indecisive members.

[spiesr]

So yeah, I don't really have anything to go on at this point. Does anyone want to volunteer for the opportunity to either choose or become today's lynch by starting a case on someone? Haggis looks like he might go for it.

[VioIet]

Victor might need to be replaced. I don't think he will be checking the mafia forums for a few weeks.

[aage]

I've been thinking and I need to speed this game up a little.


Alive

1.xuereb
2.VioIet
3.aage

5.ga7 = town
6.Fircoal
7.Victor Sullivan
8.Mr. Squirrel

10.DrewDude
11.safariguy5 = town
12.spiesr

14.Haggis_McMutton = third party

Since I trust Drew's claim to be town aligned, there's 7 people to choose from.

1.xuereb : inactive lurker. Not much to say about this guy since he didn't say much to start with.
2.VioIet : practically the same as xuereb. She'd have been lynched yesterday if it weren't for the deadline to hit before people realized we needed to lynch someone.
6.Fircoal : also a lurker it's been a while since I've seen anything from you.

7.Victor Sullivan : Haggis already made a case on this.

8.Mr. Squirrel : there is actually a reason to believe Mr. Squirrel is mafia. TheHerkMan claimed so during day 1. However I am reluctant to give any credance whatsoever to this because it's THM and we've already been over this. There's just several points in the game where I'm surprised by scum play.
The only known mafia member was Flores, who tried to direct cop attention towards Mr. Squirrel. Since she was not a usurper and it would be stoopid to deliberately try and get a buddy investigated on night 2, I think we can conclude they are not aligned so Mr. S is probably not part of the mafia.

12.spiesr : not sure. I always find it hard to read spiesr since most of his posts contain a logical ploy and only sometimes a vote.

14.Haggis_McMutton = third party : This could be a survivor, this could be a SK. I don't know which. But since there has only been 1 kill every night I think this guy is docile. And he has been playing like a survivor for the past three days.

My eventual scummy list would contain probably Victor, maybe 2 of the lurkers or spiesr.

Oh, and I might need some doc protection tonight

[VioIet]

Good analysis aage. I am going to try to be a bit more active now that I have a little more time.

I think spiesr is town alligned- I havent noticed anything scummy from him, and his motives definetely seem to be pro-town.

I think Mr. Squirrel is mafia. I don't think he is the godfather- just probably a no ability mafia goon.

I do not think Haggis is SK or mafia; he's been too inactive for that. Could possibly be a survivor.

You believe DrewDude to be town, but you didn't highlight him as blue?

Fircoal is posting actively in one game, and ignoring his other ones. Kind of like I have been doing.

I really do think we have an inactive mafia, so fir, xuereb and victor might be good leads.

[aage]

You believe DrewDude to be town, but you didn't highlight him as blue?

Because I didn't deem it worth an investigation. ga7, Haggis and Safariguy I know for sure, unless there is a busdriver / godfather among them.

[spiesr]

So aage, you are now claiming to be the cop? and you investigated ga7, safariguy, and Haggis, getting haggis as third party and the other two as town? Can you let me know what order these actions were performed in?

My eventual scummy list would contain probably Victor, maybe 2 of the lurkers or spiesr.

My personal favorite of those is the Fircoal.
I went back and read some and found that he defended flores (aka the only known scum) early on during day 2.
This comes from page 15, after 5 people made a fast bandwagon on Drewdude:

He's new. I personally think that his actions make sense for being a new player, or at least to me. I don't want to make the defense for him, he does need to learn how to play, but there is a defense there. And it's still weak bandwagonning. I understand Flores voting for him, and Victor too if his post wasn't so... Victor like. But the rate that the votes piled up on him with the lack of input said besides that what he did was bad does scare me. It's been made into a great place for scum to fall their vote in.

If you look closely, he offers some defense of flores here, while calling out the others. Flores was scum. On page 16 he made a long post countering ga7's attack on flores. By page 20 he has accepted flores' lynch as inevitable and joins in at the end with a deadline looming. He then throws this post in right after the lynch:

YES! Just as I thought :3

But, at least earlier in the day when the lynch was not decided, he did not seem to think this at all.
This, couple with his, and the scum's, apparent inactivity leads me to decided to vote Fircoal.

[Fircoal]

So now there's Fircoal and Frenchie claiming that Drewdude is scummy because he's a noob?

Woah this wagon was so scummy it even looks like a mafia ploy. Gonna read up now...

Reading problems?

True, Fir was the only one claiming he wasn't scummy or at least not warranting a bandwagon. The fact remains though that Drew can't expect to post once every 2 or so pages and expect to get by.

Um Drew has basically posted once a day besides a couple of days. I don’t think that really is scumarining especially in this climate. And his posts are not sensfan length posts but actually decent posts. On the other hand where are xuereb and Voilet. Calling Drew a scumariner with these two around really doesn’t make much sense. Sounds like you’re trying to pick an easy target (without actually doing anything.) Fos: Safari

btw i dont think that the chu is being scummy, if anything i think he is being naive, and overly kind to a "noob", prolly i could be more of a softy with him if i actually believed him to be a noob, but the guy might be new to CC mafia, but not to mafia in general, and he admited it openly very early on the game, which i admit, triggered immediately my scum radar, and here is that post that aage was helpful enough to quote

It triggered your radar yet you said nothing about it at the time? That doesn’t really sound very town like to me. I think you’re trying to boost up that you were always thinking of him as scum to bring more credit to your weak wagon.

AGAINST FLORES - 1

But the first part of her post is actually the more interesting:

i think even thought we had no deaths, we cant start to congratulate each other, it might have been due to Xmas, you know, ppl being too busy for sending their night actions,

This is very scummy to me, as it provides as only reason as to why there was no kill something that was not related to actions (either a doc protecting the right person or more importantly a roleblocker targeting mafia) but some lousy RL activity BS! This translates to me as "Hey, whoever failed our kill, don't do it again I assure you we just didn't send an action".

I personally think that it is scummy for a different reason. What if the mafia did send in a kill but they did get blocked or their target protected. I think she may be trying to shift the blame onto people who weren’t ON MSN FOR A GOOD 4 HOURS DURING THE NIGHT. It’s safe to say if the action were in the hands of Flores, it would have happened. (You could say the same for me but I’m a lazy git.)


AGAINST FLORES - 2

This impression is even reinforced by her next post:

i do see from where you are going, and i think you are most likely right, but in the very marginal case that the herk wasn't OMGUSing could be cool if an investigative role target Mr. Squirrel tonight, better safe than sorry.

theherkman; Aspiring cook (Town Roleblocker/Unaware delusional poisoner) has been lynched

delusional

Classic scum move trying to direct the cop's action where it's harmless. Suggesting such action and giving any credence to Herk's claim when such was his role is beyond far fetched, it's anti-town.

The addendum Flores just made to her case doesn't inspire me any confidence as it's basically asking for a claim.

Vote Flores

I can just imagine the scene at Frenchie-chan’s house. Flores holding a can of straws over Frenchie’s head and him desperately trying to grab one. X3 However I am surprised that Flores thinks that anything Herk says is worth a grain of salt. Shall we look at the thread full of Herk jokes?


AGAINST FRENCHIE-CHAN - 1

So now there's Fircoal and Frenchie claiming that Drewdude is scummy because he's a noob?

Woah this wagon was so scummy it even looks like a mafia ploy. Gonna read up now...

Reading problems?

Fircoal says Drew acts like that because he's a noob. You seem to agree with him. Where's the reading problem? Unless of course you're not agreeing with him and you're referring to DrewDude with "this wagon". In that case there is an interpretation problem

As for your case, it is solid. Once DrewDude comes back and gives a good reason not to lynch him it defenitely deserves some attention.

The wagon could be scummy without him thinking that Drew is scummy because he’s a noob. Ever hear of the scummier of the two scummies? (Mandy is the scummier for all those interested ;3)

Also I like how you say that his argue is valid but you say to deal with it later. I have a feeling this is like I’m asked to do something and I’m like “Yea, yea, I’ll do it later.” But later comes and it doesn’t happen. Sadly the things aren’t always forgotten D:


AGAINST FLORES - 3

(Look at how I'm saying to aage, DUDE thats nawt important right now. We have other targets to focus on.

i can accept that the first part of the frenchy's post might hold some water, even thought is pretty much grasping at straws therefor the only thing i can say is, that i am only responsible for my own actions, that means that i cant not offer any explanation to the incrimination he did of aage and victor, thought none of them has strike me as particularly scummy, perhaps aage was following my lead because he is my bff, who knows

I like how you don’t defend yourself against it or explain the reason behind your actions. It kinda lets the stronger part of the argument die and let you focus on the weaker parts. Also of course you don’t find Aage or Victor scummy. They’re doing the same things as you are!


AGAINST FLORES - 4

is it really that far fetched to think that night actions might have been skipped during Xmas when most games hit their lowest activity point and most ppl is happily enjoying of family time? not everyone is careless as you, getting my Xmas present only at the very last moment by mail when you were fully aware that the mail was delayed due the snow in France, some ppl actually got out of their asses and made REAL Xmas preparations, and therefor they were busy, you Grinch, you even let our cocktail food burn for being hooked on cc, for the good of humankind i expect not everyone be as hooked as you are.

I love you Flores. <3


GOOD HUMOR - 1

This impression is even reinforced by her next post:

i do see from where you are going, and i think you are most likely right, but in the very marginal case that the herk wasn't OMGUSing could be cool if an investigative role target Mr. Squirrel tonight, better safe than sorry.

theherkman; Aspiring cook (Town Roleblocker/Unaware delusional poisoner) has been lynched

delusional

Classic scum move trying to direct the cop's action where it's harmless. Suggesting such action and giving any credence to Herk's claim when such was his role is beyond far fetched, it's anti-town.

The addendum Flores just made to her case doesn't inspire me any confidence as it's basically asking for a claim.

Vote Flores

classic scum move? that's just classic me, i am arrogant and i always had strong opinions, and i say out loud what i think is the right thing to do and then i cross my fingers and i hope it might get taken into consideration for the right person, like this is the very first time i pop like something like this, seriously *sighs* when we learned that he was a delusional roleblocker poisoner, and the scene explained how bad his cooking was, and how proud he was of it, i thought it was OBVIOUS that the delusional part made reference to that, to him believing that his cooking rocked, while it was spoiled, and his roleblocking was working by giving food poisoning to ppl; who then obviously couldn't leave the toilette's, now you, being the talented and smart player that you are, purposefully twisting and extrapolating the interpretation of "Delusional", for detract attention of Mr. Squirrel, makes me think that this whole charade is your way of protect him, to avoid an investigation on him, because somehow could hurt you, maybe you are town and he is your lover/sibling, maybe you both are scum or third party, if you were masons you could have nothing to fear, whatever it is, i don't believe that you could be a misguided townie.

FOS ga7
FOS Mr. Squirrel

It is true that Frenchie-chan was very twisty with his words in scummy ways but it does not explain why you’d listen to HERKYDERKY. Am I gonna have to point out the thread of Herk jokes again?


AGAINST FLORES - 5

(seriously who'd listen to him?)

Unvote me and take a look at Flore's votes the next time / reveals them and it will explain all that you need to know about me.

and this is another of the brilliant and substantial defenses of the guy who is at L-2, sure lets unvote him because he said so *cringes* this is seriously ticking me off.

I agree. He’s distracting us from hunting scum! D:<


LOOK AT QUOTE OF AAGE

Classic scum move trying to direct the cop's action where it's harmless.

This insinuates that I am town, which brings to question why he would know this. Maybe ga7 is scum trying to start a second, less scummy wagon. However that is just speculation. I will stick with his argument against flores until that seems to be through.

Until then FOS the both of you. Flores more than ga7 though

Or it could be that listening to Herkyderky like this makes no sense at all? I mean, the cop has better more scummy people to investigate than the #1 man on Herkyderky's enemy of the week list. Also, Why are you pointing suspicious that he thinks you're odd. That is odd to say the least.


AGAINST SQUIRREL - 1

I hope you’re all happy, you just gave me a long distraction from the hw I should be doing. >:C

Hey would you look at that. 5 quotes against Flores, 1 against Saf and Squirrel, and the other saying Frenchie-chan you have good reasoning but THIS ISN'T VALID! I actually intended to vote Flores here as Frenchie-chan's argument had convienced me. HOWEVER I took such a long time doing this post I forgot. And then I never voted her because I never felt the "time was right." I felt that if I randomly just put my vote on her even though it was supposed to already be on her, she'd get mad or something :<

I posted that at the end of the lynch cause I Was mad at myself. I thought Flores as scum, and correctly so but I never actually seemed to make it so because I Was being an idiot. Thusly I had to post that here (And mention it some in MSN convos)

[Fircoal]

So aage, you are now claiming to be the cop? and you investigated ga7, safariguy, and Haggis, getting haggis as third party and the other two as town? Can you let me know what order these actions were performed in?

My eventual scummy list would contain probably Victor, maybe 2 of the lurkers or spiesr.

My personal favorite of those is the Fircoal.
I went back and read some and found that he defended flores (aka the only known scum) early on during day 2.
This comes from page 15, after 5 people made a fast bandwagon on Drewdude:

He's new. I personally think that his actions make sense for being a new player, or at least to me. I don't want to make the defense for him, he does need to learn how to play, but there is a defense there. And it's still weak bandwagonning. I understand Flores voting for him, and Victor too if his post wasn't so... Victor like. But the rate that the votes piled up on him with the lack of input said besides that what he did was bad does scare me. It's been made into a great place for scum to fall their vote in.

If you look closely, he offers some defense of flores here, while calling out the others.

I didn't think like Frenchie-chan did at this point. To me at this point in the game she did look town. That changed after Frenchie-chan's post.

Flores was scum. On page 16 he made a long post countering ga7's attack on flores. By page 20 he has accepted flores' lynch as inevitable and joins in at the end with a deadline looming. He then throws this post in right after the lynch:

YES! Just as I thought :3

But, at least earlier in the day when the lynch was not decided, he did not seem to think this at all.
This, couple with his, and the scum's, apparent inactivity leads me to decided to vote Fircoal.

I quoted my post from PAge 16 just to show how wrong you are (And tallyed the amount of times I fingered a person. And yes that's what I thought the whole time. I just never voted... ><

Your case is WEAKZEL. It sounds kinda like you're trying to push a weak case on an inactive who won't be able to defend the weak case cause they're out abusing buizels. It sounds good on paper until you realize that it's ALL WRONG.

[Fircoal]

btw why are we giving more insight into Aage's role. His post should have been enough for people to infer and maybe it'd slip by the mafia.

[Fircoal]

I've been thinking and I need to speed this game up a little.


Alive

1.xuereb
2.VioIet
3.aage

5.ga7 = town
6.Fircoal
7.Victor Sullivan
8.Mr. Squirrel

10.DrewDude
11.safariguy5 = town
12.spiesr

14.Haggis_McMutton = third party

Since I trust Drew's claim to be town aligned, there's 7 people to choose from.

1.xuereb : inactive lurker. Not much to say about this guy since he didn't say much to start with.
2.VioIet : practically the same as xuereb. She'd have been lynched yesterday if it weren't for the deadline to hit before people realized we needed to lynch someone.
6.Fircoal : also a lurker it's been a while since I've seen anything from you.

7.Victor Sullivan : Haggis already made a case on this.

8.Mr. Squirrel : there is actually a reason to believe Mr. Squirrel is mafia. TheHerkMan claimed so during day 1. However I am reluctant to give any credance whatsoever to this because it's THM and we've already been over this. There's just several points in the game where I'm surprised by scum play.
The only known mafia member was Flores, who tried to direct cop attention towards Mr. Squirrel. Since she was not a usurper and it would be stoopid to deliberately try and get a buddy investigated on night 2, I think we can conclude they are not aligned so Mr. S is probably not part of the mafia.

12.spiesr : not sure. I always find it hard to read spiesr since most of his posts contain a logical ploy and only sometimes a vote.

14.Haggis_McMutton = third party : This could be a survivor, this could be a SK. I don't know which. But since there has only been 1 kill every night I think this guy is docile. And he has been playing like a survivor for the past three days.

My eventual scummy list would contain probably Victor, maybe 2 of the lurkers or spiesr.

Oh, and I might need some doc protection tonight

I personally have to lean more towards Spiesr and Victor as being the scum. The inactives because they're so inactive I don't really have much of a read on them though it's nawt very scummeh.

[Mr. Squirrel]

8.Mr. Squirrel : there is actually a reason to believe Mr. Squirrel is mafia. TheHerkMan claimed so during day 1. However I am reluctant to give any credance whatsoever to this because it's THM and we've already been over this. There's just several points in the game where I'm surprised by scum play.
The only known mafia member was Flores, who tried to direct cop attention towards Mr. Squirrel. Since she was not a usurper and it would be stoopid to deliberately try and get a buddy investigated on night 2, I think we can conclude they are not aligned so Mr. S is probably not part of the mafia.

You flip flop here. Which one do you actually believe?

I think Mr. Squirrel is mafia. I don't think he is the godfather- just probably a no ability mafia goon.

Can somebody please give me a reason why I am mafia? Other than herk's accusation, I haven't really seen any real reasoning. Just people thinking I'm scum for no reason.

[safariguy5]

8.Mr. Squirrel : there is actually a reason to believe Mr. Squirrel is mafia. TheHerkMan claimed so during day 1. However I am reluctant to give any credance whatsoever to this because it's THM and we've already been over this. There's just several points in the game where I'm surprised by scum play.
The only known mafia member was Flores, who tried to direct cop attention towards Mr. Squirrel. Since she was not a usurper and it would be stoopid to deliberately try and get a buddy investigated on night 2, I think we can conclude they are not aligned so Mr. S is probably not part of the mafia.

You flip flop here. Which one do you actually believe?

I think Mr. Squirrel is mafia. I don't think he is the godfather- just probably a no ability mafia goon.

Can somebody please give me a reason why I am mafia? Other than herk's accusation, I haven't really seen any real reasoning. Just people thinking I'm scum for no reason.

I think that maybe you should consider investigating Squirrel to clear it up. I don't think he's really acted scummy, but might as well check.

Spiesr, I know I've championed the cause of killing submariners the whole game, but now that aage has given us information, I don't think it's appropriate to go after submariners now. Especially fir who we know has been active and probably was just busy (same goes for Victor to an extent because I think he said he had RL issues). I don't think Fircoal is an appropriate target, but we cannot discount submarining scum. That's a possibility. Given that xuereb is the only one who's AWOL without reason, I'd think that he'd be a possible lynch target along with Victor.

[Fircoal]

8.Mr. Squirrel : there is actually a reason to believe Mr. Squirrel is mafia. TheHerkMan claimed so during day 1. However I am reluctant to give any credance whatsoever to this because it's THM and we've already been over this. There's just several points in the game where I'm surprised by scum play.
The only known mafia member was Flores, who tried to direct cop attention towards Mr. Squirrel. Since she was not a usurper and it would be stoopid to deliberately try and get a buddy investigated on night 2, I think we can conclude they are not aligned so Mr. S is probably not part of the mafia.

You flip flop here. Which one do you actually believe?

I think Mr. Squirrel is mafia. I don't think he is the godfather- just probably a no ability mafia goon.

Can somebody please give me a reason why I am mafia? Other than herk's accusation, I haven't really seen any real reasoning. Just people thinking I'm scum for no reason.

I think that maybe you should consider investigating Squirrel to clear it up. I don't think he's really acted scummy, but might as well check.

Might as well check? IF you don't think he's acted scummy and no one else can give any reason for why he's scummy besides HerkyDerky then why exactly would we investigate him? Espeically when you consider Flores's move (though really that is WIFOM so meh it). There are other people who are much scummier that I think are in need of investigating. An investigation on SquirrellyWirly Fuzzykins has an opportunity cost of an investigation on someone else. Consider that could be used on Victor or someone else more scummy. I don't think it's worth itzel.

Spiesr, I know I've championed the cause of killing submariners the whole game, but now that aage has given us information, I don't think it's appropriate to go after submariners now. Especially fir who we know has been active and probably was just busy (same goes for Victor to an extent because I think he said he had RL issues). I don't think Fircoal is an appropriate target, but we cannot discount submarining scum. That's a possibility. Given that xuereb is the only one who's AWOL without reason, I'd think that he'd be a possible lynch target along with Victor.

[aage]

So aage, you are now claiming to be the cop? and you investigated ga7, safariguy, and Haggis, getting haggis as third party and the other two as town? Can you let me know what order these actions were performed in?

That is exactly the order in which I investigated them. That's why I wrote them down in that order.


@ Mr. Squirrel: obviousy that " there is reason to believe " stuff was a joke. The reason was that Herk called you out. Since Herk is not to be trusted, and also banned which does not give the player any more credence imo, I think there's no reason to believe you're mafia, but rather the opposite.

@ Saf: I think that is a wasted investigation. The chance of catching a scum is higher if I investigate the guy who imo has the biggest chance of being one. This is not Mr. Squirrel.

@ Fircoal: wow, a quadruple post defense after spiesr simply said you were more scummy and gave one quote? Overreaction much

[Fircoal]

@ Fircoal: wow, a quadruple post defense after spiesr simply said you were more scummy and gave one quote? Overreaction much

Read the posts again. Only the first 2 are defense. The other 2 are other statements about the gamezel. Also I'm very unhappy as to being thought of not predicting FLores as scum.

[VioIet]

I personally have to lean more towards Spiesr and Victor as being the scum. The inactives because they're so inactive I don't really have much of a read on them though it's nawt very scummeh.

I am definitely not convinced that spiesr may be scum, and rather I think it is a bit scummy for you to suggest this.

@ Fircoal: wow, a quadruple post defense after spiesr simply said you were more scummy and gave one quote? Overreaction much

QFT. I agree it was an overreaction. I think spiesr gave a good defense, and I couldn't follow Fir's.

I still really have a hunch that Mr.Squirrel is mafia, but still unfortunately I have no way to completely prove it yet. On Day one, squirrel quickly cast suspicion upon two townies and got one of them lynched. Now I can understand someone who is pro-town starting a bandwagon on someone they think is scum, but could end up being mistaken. However for it to happen twice? That's just plain scummy to me. And scum often have to make arguments out of nowhere. That says enough for me about Squirrel. I voted him three days in a row, but it is still going nowhere so I will

Vote Fircoal

[ga7]

Things are starting to look clearer here. I did in fact ponder about Mr S seeming to not want to dip himself too deep in whatever but Flores' comment about wanting him investigated makes me doubt he's scum... Or the GF. I suppose now that our cop is out we can leave that aside for now.
Chu was the most active besides me on the Flores case ultimately and really tried to dig so I highly doubt he's scum either.
Now that Victor is around again I do like the case on Victor the most, especially since my side suspect is the claimed cop But that case came from Haggis the 3rd party, which leads me to believe Haggis needs to claim his full role and flavour. He didn't really behave like a SK but he did make cases which leads me to believe he's not a survivor and might be worth lynching. Depending on his answer we could simply resume scum hunt or choose to not take risks. I suppose seeing the 1 kill before and the no kills night 1 & 3 a SK is not a very likely role to be found either way, but it is interesting to consider this could be the mafia inactivity that caused it, in which case Xeureb Victor & Vio could be the most likely to f*ck up and miss actions

[Fircoal]

Things are starting to look clearer here. I did in fact ponder about Mr S seeming to not want to dip himself too deep in whatever but Flores' comment about wanting him investigated makes me doubt he's scum... Or the GF. I suppose now that our cop is out we can leave that aside for now.
Chu was the most active besides me on the Flores case ultimately and really tried to dig so I highly doubt he's scum either.
Now that Victor is around again I do like the case on Victor the most, especially since my side suspect is the claimed cop But that case came from Haggis the 3rd party, which leads me to believe Haggis needs to claim his full role and flavour. He didn't really behave like a SK but he did make cases which leads me to believe he's not a survivor and might be worth lynching. Depending on his answer we could simply resume scum hunt or choose to not take risks. I suppose seeing the 1 kill before and the no kills night 1 & 3 a SK is not a very likely role to be found either way, but it is interesting to consider this could be the mafia inactivity that caused it, in which case Xeureb Victor & Vio could be the most likely to f*ck up and miss actions

I too would like to hear a claim from Haggis. Considering that Flores was part of the mafia it is likely that at least on Night 1 there was probably a kill sent (Because she was active). thinking about that maybe it has to be a certain person that sends in the kill for the mafia. That would mean that, that person was inactive around Day's 1 and 3 but active enough to notice for Day 2.

[aage]

Now that Victor is around again I do like the case on Victor the most, especially since my side suspect is the claimed cop

I know, lol. I played horribly.

[DrewDude]

Bring on the Haggis claim then.

[safariguy5]

We're probably not going to get a claim unless we pressure him.

unvote vote Haggis

[Haggis_McMutton]

Huh, some stuff going on here.
Been away for the weekend haven't yet caught up with all the games, anyway:

Yes, I'm the manager, a 3rd party survivor.

Considering that I hammered flores and the number of night kills I think you guys can pretty well conclude that I'm not scum/SK.

[spiesr]

Hmm, well that claim was predictable and doesn't really get us anywhere. Can't say for sure whether or not it is true though...