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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby spiesr on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:11 pm

You seem to have forgotten that the game started at night 1 gregwolf. This is when lsu was killed the first time and before pmc was lynched.

Here is my claim since you guys asked nicely:
I am the Reviver. I had the one shot ability to bring back a player from the dead. I used this to revive our dear Watcher LSU Tiger Josh on night 2. Unfortunately it seems that the werewolf turned him on night 3 due to his being a cleared townie and that the mafia promptly killed him the same night for the same reasons.
I was also Crazyirishman's mason partner although nothing really ever came out of that.

So now we have everyone claimed some role or another. Someone, likely like two, is lying. My suspicions fall first on those who can't offer evidence to back up their claims. Stroop claims to have saved a person who didn't die as they were likely not targeted. Investigated a player and found them to be town, if he is scum it would be safe fro him to say that as he know who is scum. Then he blocked one of the few players without any night action. None of this can be proven in any way and so it is fishy to me. Of course, it could very well all be true.
What else do we have? It seems oddly suspicious that safariguy can't recount how he used his powers. Cowboyz collaborates the one time he could tell us but that leaves approximately three possibilities. Safariguy is telling the truth, he is lying and cowboyz is his partner covering for him, or he is a mafia role blocker. I think the odds of the mafia having such a role in this non-vanilla game is pretty good.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:17 pm

Hmmmm. Well I believe your claim. As for greg you are going all over the place right now with this. ffs. I'm inclined to vote either greg or cowboyz and which, well hell idk. I still don't like cowboyz's shit at the start of the day saying only mafia put that much thought in a post. Anyways...?
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:18 pm

Ok, I'll pm the mod and ask if he will tell me who I protected each night. It's just that my inbox doesn't go that far back and I don't usually keep running tabs on these things.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:20 pm

:oops: sorry i forgot about that
unvote alright so correct me if im wrong
gregwolf politician
stroop JOAT
spiesr reviver
colton secret double voter
safariguy roleblocker
cowboyz naive cop
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:25 pm

I ave a suspicion that cowboyz or safari are mafia. Hmmmm
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:27 pm

Ok, Ace was kind enough to pm me who I protected.

Night One: Protected spiesr
Night Two: Protected Colton
Night Three: Protected spiesr again
Night Four: Protected cowboyz
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:42 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Ok, Ace was kind enough to pm me who I protected.

Night One: Protected spiesr
Night Two: Protected Colton
Night Three: Protected spiesr again
Night Four: Protected cowboyz


Why did you protect spiser twice?
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:51 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Ok, Ace was kind enough to pm me who I protected.

Night One: Protected spiesr
Night Two: Protected Colton
Night Three: Protected spiesr again
Night Four: Protected cowboyz

i thought you roleblocked cowboyz
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby cowboyz on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:58 pm

colton24 wrote:Hmmmm. Well I believe your claim. As for greg you are going all over the place right now with this. ffs. I'm inclined to vote either greg or cowboyz and which, well hell idk. I still don't like cowboyz's shit at the start of the day saying only mafia put that much thought in a post. Anyways...?


I only brought that greg thing because up until that point I had innocents come up for investigations.
Night 1 - safariguy5 = Innocent
Night 2 - Stroop = Innocent
Night 3 - spiesr = innocent
I was just trying to draw out greg and get a read on him as to his innocence.
I didn't want to break out the fact I was a cop yet, just hoping I could get some info.

Stroop wrote:Right. Sorry for drifting off yet again...

I am a Jack of all Trades. At the start of the game, I had a kill, an investigation, a roleblock and a protect.

Night 1, I protected pmchugh. I figured that he would be good to keep around if he was town...
Night 2, I investigated spiesr and apparently he is innocent.
Night 3, I blocked colton.
Night 4, I didn't do anything.

So, I'm left with my kill and waiting for a good target...


Yea I think we should just switch those nights starting with night 0, then night1, night2, and night3

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safariguy5 wrote:Ok, Ace was kind enough to pm me who I protected.

Night One: Protected spiesr
Night Two: Protected Colton
Night Three: Protected spiesr again
Night Four: Protected cowboyz

i thought you roleblocked cowboyz


I think when he protects you, you are not able to use your abilities (roleblocked). Still strange that he couldn't remember anything about those first 3 nights.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby cowboyz on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:02 pm

spiesr wrote:You seem to have forgotten that the game started at night 1 gregwolf. This is when lsu was killed the first time and before pmc was lynched.

Here is my claim since you guys asked nicely:
I am the Reviver. I had the one shot ability to bring back a player from the dead. I used this to revive our dear Watcher LSU Tiger Josh on night 2. Unfortunately it seems that the werewolf turned him on night 3 due to his being a cleared townie and that the mafia promptly killed him the same night for the same reasons.
I was also Crazyirishman's mason partner although nothing really ever came out of that.

So now we have everyone claimed some role or another. Someone, likely like two, is lying. My suspicions fall first on those who can't offer evidence to back up their claims. Stroop claims to have saved a person who didn't die as they were likely not targeted. Investigated a player and found them to be town, if he is scum it would be safe fro him to say that as he know who is scum. Then he blocked one of the few players without any night action. None of this can be proven in any way and so it is fishy to me. Of course, it could very well all be true.
What else do we have? It seems oddly suspicious that safariguy can't recount how he used his powers. Cowboyz collaborates the one time he could tell us but that leaves approximately three possibilities. Safariguy is telling the truth, he is lying and cowboyz is his partner covering for him, or he is a mafia role blocker. I think the odds of the mafia having such a role in this non-vanilla game is pretty good.


I believe spiesr as to his claim. Explains how LSU was brought back, since nothing has explained that until now.
I also agree with your thoughts on Stroop. It seems suspicious to me as well since none of that can be verified and Stroop is a veteran player who could easily fake a claim.
Also agreed that it is strange that safari couldnt remember anything about the first 3 nights on who he targeted. He did roleblock me night 4 but yea, mafia roleblocker would explain that if he was lying.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:07 pm

cowboyz wrote:
colton24 wrote:Hmmmm. Well I believe your claim. As for greg you are going all over the place right now with this. ffs. I'm inclined to vote either greg or cowboyz and which, well hell idk. I still don't like cowboyz's shit at the start of the day saying only mafia put that much thought in a post. Anyways...?


I only brought that greg thing because up until that point I had innocents come up for investigations.
Night 1 - safariguy5 = Innocent
Night 2 - Stroop = Innocent
Night 3 - spiesr = innocent
I was just trying to draw out greg and get a read on him as to his innocence.
I didn't want to break out the fact I was a cop yet, just hoping I could get some info.

Stroop wrote:Right. Sorry for drifting off yet again...

I am a Jack of all Trades. At the start of the game, I had a kill, an investigation, a roleblock and a protect.

Night 1, I protected pmchugh. I figured that he would be good to keep around if he was town...
Night 2, I investigated spiesr and apparently he is innocent.
Night 3, I blocked colton.
Night 4, I didn't do anything.

So, I'm left with my kill and waiting for a good target...


Yea I think we should just switch those nights starting with night 0, then night1, night2, and night3

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safariguy5 wrote:Ok, Ace was kind enough to pm me who I protected.

Night One: Protected spiesr
Night Two: Protected Colton
Night Three: Protected spiesr again
Night Four: Protected cowboyz

i thought you roleblocked cowboyz


I think when he protects you, you are not able to use your abilities (roleblocked). Still strange that he couldn't remember anything about those first 3 nights.


Jailkeeper both protects and roleblocks. The reason I forgot who I protected is because my sent messages automatically delete the oldest ones. I don't know if people usually keep track of what each of their night actions are. I never have, so maybe I'll do this from now on.

I thought spiesr was the politician and mafia, but obviously he wasn't.... At least his revive of LSU didn't hurt us one way or another.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby cowboyz on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:15 pm

gregwolf121 wrote::oops: sorry i forgot about that
unvote alright so correct me if im wrong
gregwolf politician
stroop JOAT
spiesr reviver
colton secret double voter
safariguy roleblocker
cowboyz naive cop


Oh yea, still think Greg has a decent chance of being mafia politican.

gonna have to go reread all this stuff
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby gregwolf121 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:00 am

politician yes
mafia no
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby Stroop on Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:02 am

gregwolf121 wrote::oops: sorry i forgot about that
unvote alright so correct me if im wrong
gregwolf politician
stroop JOAT
spiesr reviver
colton secret double voter
safariguy roleblocker
cowboyz naive cop

That seems correct.

Spiesr is definitely the reviver then.
Colton was the secret double voter, but now vanilla.
Gregwolf is definitely the politician, possibly mafia?
Cowboyz claim has not and can not be confirmed. Naive cop is easy to fake.
My claim has not and can not be confirmed. My claim is also easy to fake.
Safariguy is a jailkeeper, possibly mafia roleblocker

The role that I am missing here, is Crazyirishman's mason partner. I'm also wondering if we have a third werewolf.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:49 am

spiesr wrote:I was also Crazyirishman's mason partner although nothing really ever came out of that.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby spiesr on Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:22 am

cowboyz wrote:Yea I think we should just switch those nights starting with night 0, then night1, night2, and night3.
Except that the mod has labeled them starting with night 1. Switching now would cause more confusions than we already have.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:02 pm

Stroop wrote:
gregwolf121 wrote::oops: sorry i forgot about that
unvote alright so correct me if im wrong
gregwolf politician
stroop JOAT
spiesr reviver
colton secret double voter
safariguy roleblocker
cowboyz naive cop

That seems correct.

Spiesr is definitely the reviver then.
Colton was the secret double voter, but now vanilla.
Gregwolf is definitely the politician, possibly mafia?
Cowboyz claim has not and can not be confirmed. Naive cop is easy to fake.
My claim has not and can not be confirmed. My claim is also easy to fake.
Safariguy is a jailkeeper, possibly mafia roleblocker

The role that I am missing here, is Crazyirishman's mason partner. I'm also wondering if we have a third werewolf.


You forgot that spiesr was a one-shot reviver. I think he counts as vanilla now unless somebody wants to correct me?
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:55 am

AceArtemis wrote:-Deadline-

A deadline has been set exactly 4 days from the time of this post.

Have a nice day.


We have 4 days guys. We are at LYLO and if we don't get this right than we are screwed.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby spiesr on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:14 am

colton24 wrote:We have 4 days guys. We are at LYLO and if we don't get this right than we are screwed.
Alright then, let's get serious. We have to get down to business and start analyzing these claims and the play of those in question. I tried looking through all the claims to see if I could find anything that wouldn't work or would be of use and all I got was the cowboyz is definitely not a sane cop, but we had already assumed him to be naive, so I didn't learn anything useful...
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby gregwolf121 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:04 pm

alright heres how i see it

defintly town theres
Spiesr as the reviver
Colton who was the secret double voter no powers now
Gregwolf the politician

really good chance their town
Cowboyz as a naive cop

it makes sense to me that if theres a paranoid cop theres a naive one too.

and who im not sure about

stroop as JOAT
Safariguy as jailkeeper

looking back through the game stroop only comes up and posts every now and again, and safariguys claim could be fake and in fact he is a mafia roleblocker

so i say vote stroop
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:02 pm

Yeah. And JOAT is easy to fake. I would bet my money on politician being down so hell vote Stroop. That should be L-1 right? If so then Stroop better hope he convinces us.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby AceArtemis on Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:27 am

-Vote Count-

Stroop (3)- gregwolf121, Stroop, colton24

Not Voting: cowboyz, spiesr, safariguy5

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby colton24 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:16 am

gregwolf121 wrote:alright heres how i see it

defintly town theres
Spiesr as the reviver
Colton who was the secret double voter no powers now
Gregwolf the politician

really good chance their town
Cowboyz as a naive cop

it makes sense to me that if theres a paranoid cop theres a naive one too.

and who im not sure about

stroop as JOAT
Safariguy as jailkeeper

looking back through the game stroop only comes up and posts every now and again, and safariguys claim could be fake and in fact he is a mafia roleblocker

so i say vote stroop


How do you know he is a mafia roleblocker? unvote
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby spiesr on Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:35 pm

colton24 wrote:How do you know he is a mafia roleblocker? unvote
I believe that gregwolf was attempting to say something along the lines of 'safariguy could be lying about his role and actually be a mafia role-blocker', but had just poorly worded it.
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Re: NV Mafia- Day 4

Postby cowboyz on Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:57 pm

fck it...my suspicions fall on stroop and safari anyway. So lets do it.
vote stroop
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