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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Falkomagno on Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:14 am

God Emperor Q wrote:Im interested in learning the reason you targeted nexus. It must've been b/c you thot he was a vampire. So why aren't you voting for him (if you truly are a townsperson)?



I checked the player list, and I pick the name that was more unfamiliar to me, showing me lurk. I said that before.

@Mr Squirrel. You have so many flaws in your logic, and are getting worse with that filibustering.

The fact that there is 2 vig claims, and of course, a mafia faction, with no nk can be because in a game with many vig the chances of bullet-proofs mafiosos and townies are high. Even more, this can be ( in fact, I’m 75% sure that this is) a cult game, since all we know that vampires become what they are because they were bitten. The lack of nigh kills can show me that. Choose to look the odds of 3 people rightly blocked,, or 3 rightly protected - with the aggravating that I chose a lurker-, make that assumption like almost impossible (who would protect naxus”””).

Another option: with 2 vigs claiming, is probable that if mafia roleblocker exists, they don’t hesitate in use the ability in one of us, if not both. So, trying to hide the facts with wrong assumptions that make the reality impossible is your fault, not reality’s. The facts are that there is no one nk. And that can make you think that something could happen.
And about the supposed overpower of my role, as I said before, there is no such an advantage, since my double shot can be used just once…
Even more, I doubt of your town readings, since, who scum can be so stupid to claim vig when there is another vig claimed…..

I have to recognice something, I was completly sure that you was one of the people who atribute the lack of a succefull lynch to the mod skills, but you didn't do that. The people who dii was stroop, fircoal and captain walrus I guess. That gave you was a lil' pro town points. A free advice, don’t argue with the dude armed, it’s dangerous.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby e_i_pi on Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:53 am

Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.

I believe strokem is role-claiming as a vig, I am very sceptical about this, and would like to know who he targetted last night. FoS strokem1257

Also, Squirrel is making quite a fuss about this, being very very defensive, and using a "poisoning the well" tactic against falko, who I'd rather keep alive. This seems to be a countering move against the townies, which means he is most likely scum. Vote Mr. Squirrel

As for others in the game, I don't yet have a clear idea, only the suspicions I had before. I'll wait to see if anyone else role-claims, or if there is any further suspicious activity.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:54 am

e_i_pi wrote:Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.

I believe strokem is role-claiming as a vig, I am very sceptical about this, and would like to know who he targetted last night. FoS strokem1257

Also, Squirrel is making quite a fuss about this, being very very defensive, and using a "poisoning the well" tactic against falko, who I'd rather keep alive. This seems to be a countering move against the townies, which means he is most likely scum. Vote Mr. Squirrel

As for others in the game, I don't yet have a clear idea, only the suspicions I had before. I'll wait to see if anyone else role-claims, or if there is any further suspicious activity.

I guess I am going to come out with it. Last night I targeted CW due to the fact that even though I did not really like the whole double shot kill thing claimed by falko if falko was telling the truth there should be no reason for us to try to vote him out at that time. CW made a blatant try to kill falko for the second time when we had already reached a lynch number a few posts earlier. if PMC was to come back he would obviously be able to see that falko had reached that number earlier thus lynching him even though some had unvoted already. Although i don't fully trust falko just yet, I am really beginning to get a few suspicions about other people since the night phase.

e_i_pi I would like you to explain yourself about your role-block. none of us know how you role blocked him so we are just supposed to take your word on it that you KNOW what is going on now... maybe you are just trying to cover up for your scum buddy and make him look good. I think it may be likely that a mafia may have a one time double shot kill. it is a pmc game... so I will put a FOS e_i_pi
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:03 am

e_i_pi wrote:Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.

#-o Next time I decide to go on a crusade against another player, could anyone who has any information to his innocence please share it BEFORE I make a long, time-consuming post and make myself look scummy in the process.

I'll unvote for now since you have vouched for his innocence and I have yet to see any scummy behavior from you. However, if later we find that he is indeed scum, you are next on the chopping block. For all I know you are just a scum buddy trying to help him out.

If you are indeed a role blocker though, what was your reasoning in choosing falko? I'd like to know before I accept your story as truth.

Falkomagno wrote:And about the supposed overpower of my role, as I said before, there is no such an advantage, since my double shot can be used just once…

It doesn't matter if it can only be used once. In any other game, a normal vig is considered a powerful role. But in this game, we have someone who claims to hold vig powers, have a one-shot double kill ability, and requires one extra vote to lynch. That is basically three roles in one.
strokem1257 wrote:I guess I am going to come out with it. Last night I targeted CW due to the fact that even though I did not really like the whole double shot kill thing claimed by falko if falko was telling the truth there should be no reason for us to try to vote him out at that time. CW made a blatant try to kill falko for the second time when we had already reached a lynch number a few posts earlier. if PMC was to come back he would obviously be able to see that falko had reached that number earlier thus lynching him even though some had unvoted already. Although i don't fully trust falko just yet, I am really beginning to get a few suspicions about other people since the night phase.

Hmmm...so perhaps CW is a bullet-proof townie (or scum?) since he already said he was the cause for one of the failed NKs. I'm starting to think I was wrong all along and that we might possibly have two vigs.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:15 am

Well, this game has taken a turn for the interesting. I am willing to believe pi and falko now. Im still a bit wary of them as falko could not have sent in an action whilst pi claims to be a roleblocker. If they turn out to be scum I will be impressed with the tactics used there.

So next is CW who tried to lynch falko after I had brought up the 8 idea and made myself number 8 and then unvoted. To me this seems scummy as we had all seen it happen, so there was no need to do it other than to try and get a lynch or to make yourself look like a bright townie. Id also like to know why/how you can account for a failed NK

FOS: CW

To me now, it seems like there is 2 vigs, or 1 vig and an sk, same priciple so easy enough to claim but a different allignment. This leads me to be suspicious of stroke. Its quite a conundrum really

FOS: STROKE
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:17 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote: perhaps CW is a bullet-proof townie (or scum?) since he already said he was the cause for one of the failed NKs. I'm starting to think I was wrong all along and that we might possibly have two vigs.


well if we did have two vigs and a mafia kill, why aren't there three hit attempts in the night dialog? or is a role-blocked attack just nullified completely and no record of it shown to the general public?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby God Emperor Q on Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:36 am

e_i_pi wrote:Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.

I believe strokem is role-claiming as a vig, I am very sceptical about this, and would like to know who he targetted last night. FoS strokem1257

Also, Squirrel is making quite a fuss about this, being very very defensive, and using a "poisoning the well" tactic against falko, who I'd rather keep alive. This seems to be a countering move against the townies, which means he is most likely scum. Vote Mr. Squirrel

As for others in the game, I don't yet have a clear idea, only the suspicions I had before. I'll wait to see if anyone else role-claims, or if there is any further suspicious activity.

This seems to me to be the most logical explanation I've heard so far.
It seems to me that falko is telling the truth, b/c the evidence is right in front of our faces. He seems like he could have an impressive ability, being able to kill a mafioso each night, that would make him invaluable to the townspeople. To want to get rid of him could only be the work of a mafioso.
Vote Mr. Squirrel
I am curious to know the extent of E_i_pi's role blocking powers though....
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby naxus on Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:00 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.

#-o Next time I decide to go on a crusade against another player, could anyone who has any information to his innocence please share it BEFORE I make a long, time-consuming post and make myself look scummy in the process.

I'll unvote for now since you have vouched for his innocence and I have yet to see any scummy behavior from you. However, if later we find that he is indeed scum, you are next on the chopping block. For all I know you are just a scum buddy trying to help him out.

If you are indeed a role blocker though, what was your reasoning in choosing falko? I'd like to know before I accept your story as truth.



I think e_i_pi roleblocked falko because he thought the two nk was his normal action and not just a oneshot.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:29 am

If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby God Emperor Q on Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:01 pm

MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

I second this.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:16 pm

MeDeFe wrote:If eipi roleblocked Falko I'm very curious to know who captain walrus blocked/healed/guarded/whatever to prevent the vampire(s) from feeding. Because my role could also explain the lack of a kill in the first paragraph of the nightscene perfectly.

So I take it you must be able to hide behind other players once every other night MeDeFe... and as for CW I would assume if anything that he role blocked someone, unless of course he is just bullet proof seeing as I did target him. which would account for the second half of the night scene....
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:10 pm

Possibly, I think I will claim.
I am a bulletproof body gaurd. And unfourtunently, I decided to protect nexus. THis means you both could be lying or telling the truth but It isn't that helpfull. Because I can't dye and I can protet someone, that sort of balances thngs a bit with the two vig's.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Crazyirishman on Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:54 pm

Vote falko, Unvote. Vote stroke, Unvote. Vote CW, Unvote
This is confusing with all the role claims that have come out recently, I don't know where to start.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:48 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:Vote falko, Unvote. Vote stroke, Unvote. Vote CW, Unvote
This is confusing with all the role claims that have come out recently, I don't know where to start.

wow... I forgot you were even in this game Crazy... this is like your 7th post in 26 pages... major creeper. oh wait you joined on like page 14... but still 7 posts for 12 pages... and like an average of 4 days between posts... some one is hiding I think.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:32 pm

Alright, just so I can get this straight in my own head, this is what we know happened last night (assuming no one is lying):

Falko tries to NK Nexus
Pi roleblocks falko
Stroke tries to NK CW
CW protects Nexus/himself
Medefe protects whoever the vamps targeted

MeDeFe, can you tell us who you protected?

Also here is the night text again with my commentary on where I think everyone fit in:
The vampire was ready to strike, but where was the question? The people were fearful and despite the stepped up hunt for vampires he was not. Dracula was looking for his next prey, he was craving blood but nothing was in sight. He picked out a house and swooped in, he searched it thoroughly but there was nothing of interest. This is MeDeFe's action A frustrating night for the vampire but he would return the next night.

Elsewhere the hunt was on. These vampires had terrorised enough people and it was time for them to pay. The tall figure strokem walked among the shadows and seen its target. CW is the target. He was sure it was a vampire, he shouted and the target turned too face him. He shot his stake gun straight towards the heart of his victim but it never sunk in properly because he's bulletproof and the figure turned and fled.

With no deaths for an entire night and day, the townspeople began to feel more safe but there was still a job to do....

And we wouldn't see Falko in this since Pi roleblocked him.

As I see it, all of the pieces fit together nicely. I really don't think anyone here so far is lying and we can move onto other targets.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:10 pm

Hey PMC can you update the list of participants in this mafia game... I am forgetting who is replaced now... ;)
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby pmchugh on Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:22 pm

strokem1257 wrote:Hey PMC can you update the list of participants in this mafia game... I am forgetting who is replaced now... ;)


You already told me once....

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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:27 pm

pmchugh wrote:
strokem1257 wrote:Hey PMC can you update the list of participants in this mafia game... I am forgetting who is replaced now... ;)


You already told me once....

Someone VC please :D

I am just making sure I have it on record... :D
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cowboyz on Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:45 pm

back, lots of reading to do..ill comment here after i check it all out
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Crazyirishman on Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:15 pm

strokem1257 wrote:
Crazyirishman wrote:Vote falko, Unvote. Vote stroke, Unvote. Vote CW, Unvote
This is confusing with all the role claims that have come out recently, I don't know where to start.

wow... I forgot you were even in this game Crazy... this is like your 7th post in 26 pages... major creeper. oh wait you joined on like page 14... but still 7 posts for 12 pages... and like an average of 4 days between posts... some one is hiding I think.


I'm scared of the vampires
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Crazyirishman on Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:40 pm

Plus about for of those pages were pretty much worthless with falko asking if he was going to be lynched. now that we have had a night session I'll be more active
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:53 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:Plus about for of those pages were pretty much worthless with falko asking if he was going to be lynched. now that we have had a night session I'll be more active

just because it may be worthless doesn't mean you shouldn't inject your own thoughts into the discussion at hand.. they can be very useful at times... or maybe not at others.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:00 am

pmchugh wrote:
strokem1257 wrote:Hey PMC can you update the list of participants in this mafia game... I am forgetting who is replaced now... ;)


You already told me once....

Someone VC please :D

Sorry, I quit keeping my own count after you got a few right. Time to live up to your mod duties and count your own dang votes. :twisted:
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:07 am

I told everyone PMC was scummy but noone believed me.....

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=93576
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby pmchugh on Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:11 am

Get back on topic!!!!!!

And you fabricated that!
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