[OFFICIAL] Stack the Deck mafia (4/12)Endgame: MAFIA WIN

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

ignore the fp above, its in the wrong place.

The bosaa case Wing made relies on being scumpair with mitch.

In fairness, Boss is the common denominator in all the scenarios in my head.

I find it interesting that dakky has not mentioned bosaa yet all game, even though we're near the end of D2.

Clearly you have some concept of this too. All roads lead to Boss.
Thankyou for sharing your thoughts. Are you considering voting for me? If so I will claim, as my life may genuinely be under threat.

Now you're just taking things out of context. Maras points out that your case relies on me being a pair with Mitch and you say it could be everyone. Maras points out how Dakky has not mentioned me so far and again you say I could be scum with everyone. Obviously you are doing everything to get rid of me. How am I all of a sudden the scummiest person in here? I had no reason to go after you all of a sudden, I was looking mainly at Mitch but also everyone else. That's when I noticed that strange post of yours. Since then you have constantly tried to convince others of the fact that I am scum. And the longer you go on about it the more scumpartners you are able to find. First Anam, then Mitch, then Dakky and now basically everyone.

What have I taken out of context? Mars doesnt like Dakky's play, and thinks that his interaction with you is wierd. I'd say that is very much in context.

My strange post declared you to be mafia. Thats a very good reason to go after me. The fact you do not admit this means you are not townie attacking your accuser, you are mafia.

I also find it peculiar that you are so eager to claim, so I am curious what you are going to come up with. Shouldn't Townies try to avoid a claim instead of encouraging them?

What is this? I am at L-2. I have been avoiding claiming until its become clear that I may actually get lynched. So yes I have been actively avoiding claiming.

I put myself in the group of AnaManiac, Mitch, Rizky, Boss and myself in which the two mafia must fall.

And what is this? Are you trying to frame a few people before you die?

No I am giving my read on the game.

[rizky_biznezz]

It is obvious, stop outthinking yourself. You have spent the entire day ignoring the obvious and trying to find some obscure case. Why? The obvious is quite often correct, and at the very least should be investigated

I haven't given up on other avenues some good points were made about dakky but that would mean me going down the same road of scum bussing their partner from the start which ppl are trying to talk me out of..

Bos could be playing me but I still don't see a strong case.. I do plan on going back over the day again so maybe I will see what u see..

Mitch has been asking questions and looks like he is trying to hunt... Could be because he is being coached on what to say in daychat and thats why he seems to be normal...

I'm not dead set on my theory but I thought the point of this was to bounce ideas around and get discussions going

[dakky21]

Mitch has been asking questions and looks like he is trying to hunt... Could be because he is being coached on what to say in daychat and thats why he seems to be normal...

I'm not dead set on my theory but I thought the point of this was to bounce ideas around and get discussions going

There is no day chat because mafia goon don't know who the traitor is, while traitor knows who the goon is.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Mitch has been asking questions

Please quote these please.

[rizky_biznezz]

So if the traitor was recruited they still couldn't daytalk.. Ok thanks for clearing that up..

I'm on my phone wing so its a bit hard but I will see if I can get it together

[rizky_biznezz]

@wing:

@ WCG what are reason have you besides your gut to think Marashu is scum ? I see two posts by him 1 something about Tim bw conformations 2 and about a counter claim , neither are much sense but scummy that is a far stretch

@ End I don't understand your vote unless you are trying to get a result from TWR. also you yourself have not made any clear posts ,so you should vote for your self

@ Rizky you gave us your list but Dakky was not on it why? Can you not make a read on him or are you trying to protect him

why didn't you answer Rizkys question instead of reposting what I said ? sorry I think you are scum and you know what we do wiyh scum! VOTE WCG

@ Nice post Bos ,finally someone else sees Wing as scum ,now we got to find the traitor, sorry that I thought it might have been you but now I know better, who to read as the traitor ?

[rizky_biznezz]

Guess he could have been trying to protect mars and rose.. Thats why he was asking

[Marashu]

There is no day chat because mafia goon don't know who the traitor is, while traitor knows who the goon is.

And how do you know the traitor is unrecruited?

If I was Unrecruited traitor then this would have been the only hint I needed. Message sent, message received. [...] Consider this, I was sending hints to Endgame (a player I believe to be town) and IB (confirmed town) that I knew only Mars would also understand.

This... makes a lot of sense, actually.

And the longer you go on about it the more scumpartners you are able to find. First Anam, then Mitch, then Dakky and now basically everyone.

Where did Wing say that you and Dakky are scumpartners?

Which is why a diversion onto a another townie case would be a nice move for them - still no risk of them getting lynched, but build momentum on an alternative case - which is possibly what's happening with WCG's wagon.

Looking back on D2, this feels more and more like what is happening.

Unvote; Vote Bosaa

[anamainiacks]

Rizky's case on WCG being a potential mafia traitor is actually starting to sound quite plausible... admittedly there are some tenuous points, but there are some interesting points there as well. Mentioning EoTW would've been a smart and discreet way of hinting, if his partner knew what he meant.

I actually read WCG's Ace of Spades comment as a cop softclaim though, since that's usually the card my friends and I use to indicate a detective/cop role when we play mafia. But WCG's VT claim seems to put that theory to rest anyway. I'm not sure if Ace of Spades is often used as a sinister card, but it definitely isn't an ordinary card, so I won't rule out the possibility of it being a traitor softclaim.

The drawback on the case is that it also supposes that Endgame is the last scum, and that's quite a large part of the case. Without it, the case on WCG could still possibly stand, but it'd be a lot less solid in that case. I still think that bosaa is a safer bet at the moment.

At the moment I'm having similar thoughts to bos so Im not really seeing her as scummy.. If she was scum she could have easily jumped on the rose vote when it was pretty much a sure thing and got the town credit.. I also don't see why rose would try and imply bos was scum when rose was sinking further..

bosaa posted before PT's counterclaim when people were unvoting, and only managed to come in to post after Streaker's modnote. So she didn't have the opportunity to put her vote on TWR after the counterclaim, and Streaker's modnote might have given her hope that a lynch wasn't going to happen. TWR could've been trying to call bosaa scummy, simply because that would give bosaa more town cred if TWR did get lynched, since people might assume that those who scum calls scummy aren't actual scum.

(Unofficial) Vote Count

Endgame422 (0): dakky21, rizky_biznezz
Anamainiacks (3): endgame422, Iron Butterfly, dakky21
Wingcmdr Ginkapo (3): bosaardbeitje, madmitch, rizky_biznezz
bosaardbeitje (3): WingCmdr Ginkapo, anamainiacks, Marashu
dakky21 (0): marashu

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline November 23rd, 03.00 CC Time.

We have less than 24 hours till the deadline. @Streaker, what happens if we reach the deadline without a majority, or with a tie?

FP'ed by Mars, unofficial vote count updated.

bosaa should claim, she's at L-2.

[bosaardbeitje]

Guess what? I am going to claim Vanilla Townie too. Hope that helps!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

important mod note

Mod made an error when randomizing power roles. Town has been given 2 + x power roles (x being mafia power roles), however no guarantee for cop and bodyguard.
The entire list was ra ndomized and duplicate results are possible, however not confirmed by this post.

If mafia didnt take any powers then White Rose should have been able to claim Tracker with no fear of counterclaim. In which case there would only be two town power roles, IB and PT.

[Iron Butterfly]

You believe that to be the case Wing?

[Endgame422]

UNVOTE VOTE BOSS

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

You believe that to be the case Wing?

Nope, but its a thought.

[madmitch]

[b]important mod n

If mafia didnt take any powers then White Rose should have been able to claim Tracker with no fear of counterclaim. In which case there would only be two town power roles, IB and PT.

This statement is crazy!!! if mafia didn't take any power roles I.B and PT. WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE THERE ROLES, Town is suppose to have 1 cop and 1 body guard plus any bonus roles we get,anyway where was the body guard ? whose more important for town a tracker or BG. We know the scum took at least 2 roles ,what they are who knows ? the smart thing would be take the recruit that way you get your extra man right away and the cop. on day 1 TWR said Anam was my most certain town, knowing TWR was scum what does that make Anam ? now who is the 3rd Bos or WCG , I was stuck on wing but maybe I am wrong , I.B. you are the only confirmed town what do you think ?

[Marashu]

[b]important mod n

If mafia didnt take any powers then White Rose should have been able to claim Tracker with no fear of counterclaim. In which case there would only be two town power roles, IB and PT.

This statement is crazy!!! if mafia didn't take any power roles I.B and PT. WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE THERE ROLES, Town is suppose to have 1 cop and 1 body guard plus any bonus roles we get,anyway where was the body guard ? whose more important for town a tracker or BG. We know the scum took at least 2 roles ,what they are who knows ? the smart thing would be take the recruit that way you get your extra man right away and the cop. on day 1 TWR said Anam was my most certain town, knowing TWR was scum what does that make Anam ? now who is the 3rd Bos or WCG , I was stuck on wing but maybe I am wrong , I.B. you are the only confirmed town what do you think ?

Streaker said that he made a mistake in the set-up near the end of D1.

Deadline was technically 2 hours ago, but Streaker hasn't posted scene yet, so there might be a bit of time left for anyone who's online and willing to switch votes.

[rizky_biznezz]

We need a lynch so I will try unvote vote bos

[Streaker]

Vote Count

Endgame422 (0):
Anamainiacks (2): Iron Butterfly, dakky21
Wingcmdr Ginkapo (3): bosaardbeitje, madmitch, rizky_biznezz
bosaardbeitje (4): WingCmdr Ginkapo, anamainiacks, Endgame422, marashu
dakky21 (0):

Deadline expired, rizky's vote switch has not been counted. With no majority reached, nobody is lynched.
Mod note: as of the next day, all players will be required to vote. Failing to have voted will result in a modkill. Everyone managed to do so today, shouldn't be a problem then.

It is now N2, 48 hours to send in night actions.

[madmitch]

Doesn't Bos have a 4 count ?

[dakky21]

Doesn't Bos have a 4 count ?

You're mixing games, in CYOC it was said that one with highest number of votes will be lynched, here it was not.
Bos had 4 votes but not the majority of 5 needed for a lynch.

[madmitch]

thanks

[Streaker]

The town wakes up to a very cold deck indeed. Both Endgame422 and Animainiacks, were found deadened in the night. Both were vanilla townies.

It is now Day 3. You have until December 2nd, 03.00 CC time to reach a majority. If deadline is reached without majority, all players who did not vote will be modkilled.

[madmitch]

That's what you get when we don't reach a vote, shit we lost 2 townies , now we have to start all over again.

[rizky_biznezz]

ouch... clears up my end/wing theory at least i guess...

i will be back when i have more time to read thru properly i was just checking in to see the aftermath of the night..

[Endgame422]

Gl town