CYOC Mafia [7/15] Game Over! [Archive]

[Yomiel]

That IS something of actual use. You guys are not only going to lynch someone who might not be Mafia, but also let another person die because of my abilities? And then there's the fact that I myself might die because of my power. So with me alive, three Townies can die just during the Day alone, unless we get really lucky. You lynch me, only one dies.

[jonty125]

but also let another person die because of my abilities?.

Well, we don't believe you have those abilities so therefore there is no risk.

[vodean]

That IS something of actual use. You guys are not only going to lynch someone who might not be Mafia, but also let another person die because of my abilities? And then there's the fact that I myself might die because of my power. So with me alive, three Townies can die just during the Day alone, unless we get really lucky. You lynch me, only one dies.

so now were back to peopledying from your ability?

i honestly see your change in claim as total BS to hide the fact that when no one dies, you are lying.

and doom, sure, whatever, accuse me of blatant BW. pressure me for a claim, even. lets just get the ball rolling.

[jak111]

Sorry for not posting as of late, but I see no where to post.. it's the same rambling on and on.

Anyway, everyone ignore him if he isn't going to say something new. I'm tired of reading 200 posts of the same stuff... Like seriously, I have better things to do with my time then reread the same thing over and over and OVER again.

Now, onto my case on vodean. I find his/her behavior odd. They sheep all the main events going on. Voting for Yomiel. Backing off of Yomiel. Voting for a guy for "bandwagoning" while doing it him/herself. Now this doesn't seem like much I know (But lets face it, we've had no room to play like normal with the clutter f*ck posts for the past 20 or so pages). So I will take the heat if I fall wrong on this case, but I find it odd how Vodean just lays below the radar. Not too low to be noticed (Well I think even any inactive is unnoticed with this banter back and forth) but just enough to call themselves active and refer back to if called out on it.

[Yomiel]

My power has always been one person dying each Day I'm alive, so I don't know why you're acting like it changed. Some of the people refusing to lynch me are obviously Mafia, but they can't all be. It thus makes no sense. We had all already agreed to lynch me. How are three Townies dying in one Day better than just one with an unstable role dying?

[jonty125]

We had all already agreed to lynch me.

Not true.

How are three Townies dying in one Day better than just one with an unstable role dying?

Well your kills are random so it might not be town, and I feel like I'm on repeat we don't believe you.

[vodean]

Sorry for not posting as of late, but I see no where to post.. it's the same rambling on and on.

Anyway, everyone ignore him if he isn't going to say something new. I'm tired of reading 200 posts of the same stuff... Like seriously, I have better things to do with my time then reread the same thing over and over and OVER again.

Now, onto my case on vodean. I find his/her behavior odd. They sheep all the main events going on. Voting for Yomiel. Backing off of Yomiel. Voting for a guy for "bandwagoning" while doing it him/herself. Now this doesn't seem like much I know (But lets face it, we've had no room to play like normal with the clutter f*ck posts for the past 20 or so pages). So I will take the heat if I fall wrong on this case, but I find it odd how Vodean just lays below the radar. Not too low to be noticed (Well I think even any inactive is unnoticed with this banter back and forth) but just enough to call themselves active and refer back to if called out on it.

really? you think my actions have put me below the radar? you seem to contradict yourself by saying that i both sheep and vote-jump, and then i also stay below the radar. I understand the need to pressure cases, and am willing to be the first forced to claim, but if its gonna be me, at least make a decent case.


yomiel, give it up

[Yomiel]

Odds are it will be Town, same as whoever else you lynch. And as I've said already, why would I lie? If you think I'm an enemy, then all the more reason to lynch me.

[jonty125]

Odds are it will be Town, same as whoever else you lynch. And as I've said already, why would I lie? If you think I'm an enemy, then all the more reason to lynch me.

I agree with that logic, but there's one small flaw. I believe that you'll become more powerful upon death, so not lynching you is the lesser of two evils.

[Yomiel]

It's pretty much guaranteed there is only the Mafia and the Town in this game. Since we all got our alignments randomly, I can't see the host making a role as broken as that. It would be unkillable, and that would mean the Mafia couldn't lose.

[jonty125]

It's pretty much guaranteed there is only the Mafia and the Town in this game.

No, it isn't. It could very easily be 11-4-1 (town,mafia,3rd party) or another balance.

[Yomiel]

That isn't possible in this game. Since we all got our alignments randomly, that could make it so we had an outrageous amount of third-party roles. And wouldn't that still make me a Town enemy?

[crazymilkshake5]

That isn't possible in this game.

I'm sorry, when did you become mod?

[Yomiel]

Maybe you should try reading the rest of my post?

[pancakemix]

Vote Count

Yomiel - 3 (Neb, Yomiel, /)
vodean - 5 (jonty, jak, shield, saf, yoshi)
Tails - 1 (Shaggy)
Shaggy - 2 (edoc, vodean)

You have until June 29 at 12:01am ET (GMT-04:00). That is roughly 36 hours. Remember that the player with the most votes will be lynched. Please review the first post for the protocol in the event of a tie. With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

[vodean]

yomiel. seriously? you think that its 50-50 for each person to come up town or mafia? really? i have no words for you. he could have a random draw where 1 person is 3rd party, 4 are mafia, and the rest are town. RANDOMLY.

also, as for the case against me... im a little unsure as to what the case actually consists of. i am happy to claim if you want. i have a fairly unimportant power-role, so it wouldnt be too detrimental to town to reveal me. could someone summarize the case against me so i can try to build a defense? thanks.

[DoomYoshi]

Vodean, the 2 main reasons I am voting you are:

a) you are the main lynch target besides yomiel, and we don't want him lynched
b) you claim to have set a trap. This to me seems like a lie. At this point, with or without majority you are the current lynch target. If you confess that you lied, it may help you in the eyes of the rest of town. If you can prove to me that it was both a sensible plan and a precedented plan, I will unvote you.

Also, yomiel you have misunderstood what is meant by random. I doubt our mod would roll a die and 1-3 be town, 4,5 mafia and 6 3rd Party. What is more likely is that the mod decided how many of each faction there would be and then shuffled our names to randomly determine alignment. So, basically, it works exactly the same as a normal game...
FASTPOSTED by vodean who said the same thing.

[pancakemix]

Iron Butterfly replaces Some7hingClever

[spiesr]

yomiel. seriously? you think that its 50-50 for each person to come up town or mafia? really? i have no words for you. he could have a random draw where 1 person is 3rd party, 4 are mafia, and the rest are town. RANDOMLY.

But we can't have a situation where alignment is independent of role and Yomiel's role make him more likely to be third party. Since the rules says we have the first, then we can't have the second.

[Yomiel]

The host said each role would be given a RANDOM alignment. Not some roles would. And having third party would make the game incredibly unbalanced. The rules also say that alignments come AFTER the role, so like I've said before, it doesn't matter what team my role suits. I'm Town. If you don't want to lynch me, you make it look like you are Mafia.

[Iron Butterfly]

hey everyone. I will be taking over for clever.

I have skimmed a bit not knowing i would be asked to fill in.

I will offer comments after I have read through everything.

[vodean]

Vodean, the 2 main reasons I am voting you are:

a) you are the main lynch target besides yomiel, and we don't want him lynched
b) you claim to have set a trap. This to me seems like a lie. At this point, with or without majority you are the current lynch target. If you confess that you lied, it may help you in the eyes of the rest of town. If you can prove to me that it was both a sensible plan and a precedented plan, I will unvote you.

yup. thanks. thats what i wanted. part b seems a little convoluted, but ill try.
we dont want yomiel lynched, but at the same time we could just get people to unvote him.

I did not claim to have set a trap, merely to gauge reactions. as we moved out of the joke stages, i felt an attempt at a serious vote would help town. so i made a post with a horrible case. SD jumped on, for somewhat decent reasons. i voted him because i felt that jumping on a case simply to get a claim was kinda scummy. i would have preferred him to try to build a case against me in stead, or to at least say something. I never lied.
sense: we were moving out of the joke-votes, and needed a spark to start the fire. I did not want us to get caught up on yomiel and waste the entire day.
precedent: deadline was approaching, and we needed to move on from yomiel.

any further questions, just ask. i hope this is what you were looking for.\

as for evidence that my case was built to gauge reactions, and was intentionally bad, look at the case. that bad a case could not be serious.

[vodean]

also, my defense may be a little WIFOMy, but it is no more so than your case.

[DoomYoshi]

We were long out of the jokevote stage.
Shaggydan did not have decent reasons, or else you wouldn't have voted him afterwards.

I am sorry vodean, it is time to claim. Right now you are L-0.

[Yomiel]

Why are we handing victory over to the Mafia so early in the game?-.-