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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:12 pm

IB, the mod said I was officially in despite the fact I had not gotten my role yet. So instead of waiting for my role I thought I would get some thoughts out there.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:08 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:IB, the mod said I was officially in despite the fact I had not gotten my role yet. So instead of waiting for my role I thought I would get some thoughts out there.


Because speaking without knowing your goals is Idiotic. Are you an idiot? * note: Not being a dick here, implying he isn't an idiot, therefore a liar. *
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:14 pm

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shieldgenerator7 wrote:IB, the mod said I was officially in despite the fact I had not gotten my role yet. So instead of waiting for my role I thought I would get some thoughts out there.


Because speaking without knowing your goals is Idiotic. Are you an idiot? * note: Not being a dick here, implying he isn't an idiot, therefore a liar. *


hey, at least this way I can get my thoughts out without my motives being questioned, right? Anything I said before I got my role PM can't be used against me.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:17 pm

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shieldgenerator7 wrote:IB, the mod said I was officially in despite the fact I had not gotten my role yet. So instead of waiting for my role I thought I would get some thoughts out there.


Because speaking without knowing your goals is Idiotic. Are you an idiot? * note: Not being a dick here, implying he isn't an idiot, therefore a liar. *


Hey, at least this way I can get my thoughts out without my motives being questioned, right? Anything I said before I got my role PM can't be used against me.


If we believed you perhaps. A timestamp from a mod of when your role was received could clear this but that may be too much input from a mod. Until then I am assuming Liar.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:25 pm

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shieldgenerator7 wrote:IB, the mod said I was officially in despite the fact I had not gotten my role yet. So instead of waiting for my role I thought I would get some thoughts out there.


Because speaking without knowing your goals is Idiotic. Are you an idiot? * note: Not being a dick here, implying he isn't an idiot, therefore a liar. *


Hey, at least this way I can get my thoughts out without my motives being questioned, right? Anything I said before I got my role PM can't be used against me.


If we believed you perhaps. A timestamp from a mod of when your role was received could clear this but that may be too much input from a mod. Until then I am assuming Liar.


well, hay, why not? You're just afraid that I'll prove you correct, and then you'll be wrong. Not that you're always wrong, but you'll be wrong this one time and that'll drive you off your nut. Besides, I'm a replacement. My role PM was sent to me in the middle of the game anyways. Why not tell us exactly when it was sent?

tl, dr: if you're not edoc or MOD, don't bother.

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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:25 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:cool! So we have time to discuss. approx 11 days

So I'd like to hear from saf: What would you rather have us do? No lynch, lynch a claimed PR, or lynch another random person?

I personally feel that we should consider a no lynch if we can't find another good case, but really, commenting on a game before you get your role PM is just poor etiquette IMHO. Honestly, as a replacement, I wouldn't post in a game until I actually get my role PM. Because anything you say in the thread CAN be used against you. So putting all these comments out there now doesn't do anything except draw attention to you because you're technically not in this game yet.
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edocsil wrote:Well, IDK about saf, but I would like to hang you for starters. That whole business about not having your role is not new to you, and it smells of lies.


Yes, I admit to lying in mafia games on occasion.

But I don't lie about my role PM. In memebase I seriously didn't get my role. (it appears it was deleted before I could open it). And I seriously didn't get my role PM this time around either until the post when I mentioned I got it.

I don't lie about my role PM.

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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby Leehar on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:26 pm

Guilty until proven innocent?
I don't remember this memebase incident, but don't hold the macro-based mafia stuff against him? It goes both ways
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:37 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:
edocsil wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
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shieldgenerator7 wrote:IB, the mod said I was officially in despite the fact I had not gotten my role yet. So instead of waiting for my role I thought I would get some thoughts out there.


Because speaking without knowing your goals is Idiotic. Are you an idiot? * note: Not being a dick here, implying he isn't an idiot, therefore a liar. *


Hey, at least this way I can get my thoughts out without my motives being questioned, right? Anything I said before I got my role PM can't be used against me.


If we believed you perhaps. A timestamp from a mod of when your role was received could clear this but that may be too much input from a mod. Until then I am assuming Liar.


well, hay, why not? You're just afraid that I'll prove you correct, and then you'll be wrong. Not that you're always wrong, but you'll be wrong this one time and that'll drive you off your nut. Besides, I'm a replacement. My role PM was sent to me in the middle of the game anyways. Why not tell us exactly when it was sent?

tl, dr: if you're not edoc or MOD, don't bother.

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Yup. I have my nutz in a terrible twist. And now we are making a scene. Lovely.

I happen to know when the mod looked to replace Com, and very shortly after that you started posting. Several days later you say you don't have your PM. It doesn't add up and I am calling you out for it. Perhaps you are telling the truth, and if that is the case you should have known better to post without a role. This has been an issue before IIRC.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:40 pm

ok, I posted before I had my role, but the mod said I was officially in. So...?

Anyway, yeah, buddy, we're making a scene. And it's not getting us anywhere, so... let's scum hunt or call it a day like saf suggested.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:48 pm

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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:20 pm

I like the level of discussion, but will offer some input.

When I first started talking to shield, I wasn't planning on having him replace right away. As such, I didnt have time to even talk to victor before he started posting in game. All weekend, I was playing on my iPad and didn't send out the role until the end of the weekend because it's difficult to copy and paste on this device.

So, shield was posting before he got his role and he was also posting before I even confirmed that I would be wanting him to replace com9.

I am only posting this information since it is unfair for a player to be killed based on a mod mistake. I am making no claims as to whether or not shield should be lynched.

@shield: some players find it rude that you posted before you were part of the game. As this is at least partially my fault, there is nothing I can do about it, but keep it in mind for future reference.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:39 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:I like the level of discussion, but will offer some input.

When I first started talking to shield, I wasn't planning on having him replace right away. As such, I didnt have time to even talk to victor before he started posting in game. All weekend, I was playing on my iPad and didn't send out the role until the end of the weekend because it's difficult to copy and paste on this device.

So, shield was posting before he got his role and he was also posting before I even confirmed that I would be wanting him to replace com9.

I am only posting this information since it is unfair for a player to be killed based on a mod mistake. I am making no claims as to whether or not shield should be lynched.

@shield: some players find it rude that you posted before you were part of the game. As this is at least partially my fault, there is nothing I can do about it, but keep it in mind for future reference.


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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:43 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:I like the level of discussion, but will offer some input.

When I first started talking to shield, I wasn't planning on having him replace right away. As such, I didnt have time to even talk to victor before he started posting in game. All weekend, I was playing on my iPad and didn't send out the role until the end of the weekend because it's difficult to copy and paste on this device.

So, shield was posting before he got his role and he was also posting before I even confirmed that I would be wanting him to replace com9.

I am only posting this information since it is unfair for a player to be killed based on a mod mistake. I am making no claims as to whether or not shield should be lynched.

@shield: some players find it rude that you posted before you were part of the game. As this is at least partially my fault, there is nothing I can do about it, but keep it in mind for future reference.


thanks Yoshi. I'll keep that in mind. O:)
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby nàme on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:23 pm

i dont know why, i just still have a bad feeling about edocsil. not only because he wanted to start something with me, but since day one and it still hasnt cleared up. can anyone say what i am actually seeing?
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby jgordon1111 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:30 pm

You are correct name[img]Unvote%20vote%20Edoc[/img] for superior game play and infallible capabilities of finding scum
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:39 pm

nàme wrote:i dont know why, i just still have a bad feeling about edocsil. not only because he wanted to start something with me, but since day one and it still hasnt cleared up. can anyone say what i am actually seeing?


Why dont YOU tell us what you are seeing. It sounds like your looking for other people to form your arguments for you.

When you say you get a bad feeling...is this in the form of cramps and tummy ache or is this somthing you can define in words.

Please be specific as I am all ears.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:52 pm

hey, name! Glad to see you pop in!

this is a tough game. And one thing you have to do is say what you gotta say. However, whatever you say can and will be used against you. And the fact you don't say anything will be used against you too. So, you gotta deal with it one way or another. Tough players like edoc and saf sometimes like to crack down on noobs, but don't give up hope.

So far this game you've dug a little hoe for yourself by not posting much and by not saying much of anything when you do post.

I think what you mean when you say you got a bad feeling about edoc is that he is in control and leads the voting patterns throughout the game. I get that feeling too, but he must be town otherwise he wouldn't be doing it... then again, maybe he still would. IDK.

Well, anyway, if you have something to say, say it (just don't flame). Good luck!

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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:56 pm

EBWOP

*hole* not "hoe"

yeah, you just dug a hoe for yourself, yeah! (i'm so forgetful sometimes...)
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby jgordon1111 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:03 pm

go with your gut feeling Name, it will serve as good as anything else in these games,because that is how many play and then produce non evidence as proof that your scum,so stand firm say what you believe and enough people go with you,those other ego's will eventually fail to be blindly followed. As they rampage from game to game randomly killing their team mates,so they make it to endgame and maybe MVP.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:09 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:go with your gut feeling Name, it will serve as good as anything else in these games,because that is how many play and then produce non evidence as proof that your scum,so stand firm say what you believe and enough people go with you,those other ego's will eventually fail to be blindly followed. As they rampage from game to game randomly killing their team mates,so they make it to endgame and maybe MVP.


Gah lay off. You are letting this get WAAAY to personal. I went after you a few times. It really isn't a big deal. Oh, and More WIFOM from Name. I should go make a formal case against him. I have a metric ton of exams till Friday so don't expect anything game breaking from me till then, but I'll spit out something once I get enough free time to devote to the case.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:26 am

I will when your role is revealed as you insisted on mine and bandwagoned me to get it in this game and started the same BS in another. Again where I am definetly your team mate and refused in this game and that one to take the hints to back off. so now I want your role. And saf shut up you are another ego in these games that says Oh cant have you randomly killing,yet with no evidence you push for lynches and if will use your killing role night one because you have it(opps my team mate) thats ok as long as I get to Endgame it shows how good I am at this. Between the two of you I have never seen anyone who doesnt play as a team more than what you do. unbelieveable that both of you are not vigged N1,just for some reason some of the new players think you know what you are doing LOL.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:46 am

jgordon1111 wrote:I will when your role is revealed as you insisted on mine and bandwagoned me to get it in this game and started the same BS in another. Again where I am definetly your team mate and refused in this game and that one to take the hints to back off. so now I want your role. And saf shut up you are another ego in these games that says Oh cant have you randomly killing,yet with no evidence you push for lynches and if will use your killing role night one because you have it(opps my team mate) thats ok as long as I get to Endgame it shows how good I am at this. Between the two of you I have never seen anyone who doesnt play as a team more than what you do. unbelieveable that both of you are not vigged N1,just for some reason some of the new players think you know what you are doing LOL.


As I said in PM this isn't a team game. Trust no one. I am however getting weary of the insults. As I said, you might want to back off a bit before you frustrate someone.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby skillfusniper33 on Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:57 am

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jgordon1111 wrote:I will when your role is revealed as you insisted on mine and bandwagoned me to get it in this game and started the same BS in another. Again where I am definetly your team mate and refused in this game and that one to take the hints to back off. so now I want your role. And saf shut up you are another ego in these games that says Oh cant have you randomly killing,yet with no evidence you push for lynches and if will use your killing role night one because you have it(opps my team mate) thats ok as long as I get to Endgame it shows how good I am at this. Between the two of you I have never seen anyone who doesnt play as a team more than what you do. unbelieveable that both of you are not vigged N1,just for some reason some of the new players think you know what you are doing LOL.


As I said in PM this isn't a team game. Trust no one. I am however getting weary of the insults. As I said, you might want to back off a bit before you frustrate someone.


The only way you can start to trust people is once someone reveals a players role, and the only person I know that can do that is a cop. Not even a watcher knows the alignment of a player.

I agree with edoc here, if you play this with the assumption that everyone is on your team, how do you know who to lynch. All you seem to be doing is WIFOM because we forced you to claim with a pretty weak case, and the more you denied claiming the more you looked suspicious to us all. And this vendetta against Edoc really needs to stop, it is just getting to the point of I am skimming your posts since most of them are now attacking edoc on his case against you, which we have left, and are looking into others now.

Just to let everyone know this week will be extremely hectic for me. But I should have time to take a closer look over the weekend.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:59 am

My apologies first to the MODS and to the players in this game, I will not go off script again problem solved.
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Re: Rated M [10/12] Day 2: Silence

Postby nàme on Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:09 am

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nàme wrote:i dont know why, i just still have a bad feeling about edocsil. not only because he wanted to start something with me, but since day one and it still hasnt cleared up. can anyone say what i am actually seeing?


Why dont YOU tell us what you are seeing. It sounds like your looking for other people to form your arguments for you.

When you say you get a bad feeling...is this in the form of cramps and tummy ache or is this somthing you can define in words.

Please be specific as I am all ears.


he seems to take an immense amount of offense from any attack from him, always tries to throw multiple cases on the table as long as it is not himself, he makes sure he doesnt insult anyone with power, and everytime someone is getting close to being lynched he pushes even harder. maybe it is just me?

shieldgenerator7 wrote:this is a tough game. And one thing you have to do is say what you gotta say. However, whatever you say can and will be used against you. And the fact you don't say anything will be used against you too. So, you gotta deal with it one way or another. Tough players like edoc and saf sometimes like to crack down on noobs, but don't give up hope.

So far this game you've dug a little hoe for yourself by not posting much and by not saying much of anything when you do post.


im digging a hole with a hoe :P

but in all seriously, i do post and i have just been waiting for a chance to burst. edoc is dictating what is going on and by me attacking him i am throwing myself out there: which is what any insane scum would do if they wanted to get killed. it is a mistake to think i am evil, and it might cost us the game if we dont fight back now (assuming they are scum).
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