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Ragian wrote:dakky21 wrote:Voting a confirmed scum today will lead to 2 town kills tonight... tomorrow another 2 town kills because scum will agree on who to kill even if it is two factions.
How is this not true if we don't lynch the confirmed scum? How will we somehow, magically, get both in one lynch? I understand that it would be preferable to eliminate one faction ASAP, but our chances don't increase by guessing today. they increase by having another set of investigations.
Ragian wrote:How can they lie about the investigation, though? They don't receive the result. Someone else does. If they do it wrongly, we kill them diminishing their chances of winning.
And let me reiterate: I understand perfectly well what you're saying although I wasn't entirely on board to begin with, I just think you're wrong in saying that it's our best shot. I think Wing's suggestion gives us a greater chance of winning.
Marashu wrote:-The Mafia Seer and Werewolf Oracle can target one player to investigate, and a different character to receive the results. They may not target themselves, but may target their partner to either be investigated or to receive the results.
dakky21 wrote:
Oracle/Seer investigates town and gives results to their partner which in turn lies about the results, saying that town is scum. The investigated town will try to defend, but eventually get lynched, only to find out that town killed itself. After 2 town kills tonight, D3 town lynch will mean end for town.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:dakky21 wrote:
Oracle/Seer investigates town and gives results to their partner which in turn lies about the results, saying that town is scum. The investigated town will try to defend, but eventually get lynched, only to find out that town killed itself. After 2 town kills tonight, D3 town lynch will mean end for town.
The faction that lies about the result for a mislynch ensures that they lose, they would be handing the game to the other non town faction.
Its not 6 vs 4, its 6 vs 2 vs 2.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Dakky, in both your scenarios the first scum faction, lets call them mafia lied about an investigation result and IMMEDIATELY lose all chance of winning. Now why would they do a thing like that?
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Why do we trust anything Epi says?
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Dakky, my first choice of non confirmed anti town lynch is you. And quite a few people share the sentiments.
Still like your plan?
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Hiya Gang!
Now look here, Dakky is partially right, but the logic is still ridiculous. The issue we have right now is that the two anti-town parties are working together much more effectively than we are. Epi doesnt win if we team up with LSU against him. So screw Epi, hes played well but his game is over NOW.
LSU I offer you a parley on behalf of town. You say that you are the oracle and can undertake investigations. Can you please kill Mitch tonight and investigate Dakky please. (I havent put it past Epi to be so blatant with wifom). In return we will not lynch you today or tomorrow. As you are well aware we have no night powers to play tricks on this bargain.
Are you in? This allows you and your partner a shot at the end game, its win win.
Lynching someone who is not 100% confirmed non-town IS NOT going to help us. We lynch one of Epi or LSU today. No ifs no buts.
StorrZerg wrote:i find no joy in this
Epitaph1 wrote:I like dakky's plan a lot. Today, we'll lynch LSU. I'm the seer and you guys tell me whom to investigate and to whom to give the result and then we'll go from there tomorrow.
On behalf of the mafia, happy holidays and we are at your service. Give me the names and let's get this show on the road.
Deadline is in 5 hours.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Hiya Gang!
Now look here, Dakky is partially right, but the logic is still ridiculous. The issue we have right now is that the two anti-town parties are working together much more effectively than we are. Epi doesnt win if we team up with LSU against him. So screw Epi, hes played well but his game is over NOW.
LSU I offer you a parley on behalf of town. You say that you are the oracle and can undertake investigations. Can you please kill Mitch tonight and investigate Dakky please. (I havent put it past Epi to be so blatant with wifom). In return we will not lynch you today or tomorrow. As you are well aware we have no night powers to play tricks on this bargain.
Are you in? This allows you and your partner a shot at the end game, its win win.
Lynching someone who is not 100% confirmed non-town IS NOT going to help us. We lynch one of Epi or LSU today. No ifs no buts.
My first post in the game. Nothing OMGUS here. I dont like your plan. Notice how the two confirmed anti town arent objecting to your plan. Hotshot, Ragian and Mitch all agree with my plan albeit Mitch objects to the LSU nk'ing Mitch bit understandably.
All we await is LSU to post in response, or Epi to try and counter negotiate
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:My first post in the game. Nothing OMGUS here. I dont like your plan. Notice how the two confirmed anti town arent objecting to your plan. Hotshot, Ragian and Mitch all agree with my plan albeit Mitch objects to the LSU nk'ing Mitch bit understandably.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:LSU I offer you a parley on behalf of town. You say that you are the oracle and can undertake investigations. Can you please kill Mitch tonight and investigate Dakky please. (I havent put it past Epi to be so blatant with wifom). In return we will not lynch you today or tomorrow. As you are well aware we have no night powers to play tricks on this bargain.
Are you in? This allows you and your partner a shot at the end game, its win win.
Lynching someone who is not 100% confirmed non-town IS NOT going to help us. We lynch one of Epi or LSU today. No ifs no buts.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:If hotshot and rage both turn out to be town, then we can reevalute tomorrow with better info and fewer suspects.
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