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Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
edocsil wrote:Jonty (5) ~ Newguy, anamainiacks, Epitaph, tfo, stubbs
Mob (4)~ aage, newguy, DoomYoshi, jonty
No Lynch (2) ~ mob, rishaed
18 alive 10 to hang.
The two weeks are up, lets set a 48 hour deadline. Remember that the player (or no lynch) with the most votes will be hung.
anamainiacks wrote:aage wrote:Jonty claims to be allied to town (n/l and g/n can win together) but his abilities don't exactly help town.
N/L is technically allied to anti-town as well, since he can win with E/L and E/N too. So it actually does make a lot of sense - his skills can be used to help whichever side he so chooses, or based on whoever he happens to choose as his target. Unvote.
MoB Deadly wrote:Hm. Surprised to see 4 votes on me this morning. I think maybe I poorly phrased my post? I am at work now I wont be able to make a long rebuttle for a few hours but here is the tl;dr version
1) Other than my very first mafia game I don't think I have EVER advocated for a No Lynch on Day 1.
2) I think ideally for any game with 10+ players the MINIMUM is 2 claims and 1 lynch. (I said that was my plan earlier in the thread)
3) We had 2 power role claims, and a modkill on a power role
4) I am not going to lynch any of the claims today.
5) The game stalled.
6) I posted my intentions of a no lynch.... They were followed/agreed by C9 and Skillfull (but neither of them cast a vote)
7) I figured I would break the ice and cast a vote since people may have been nervous to do it (voting no lynch is normally perceived as scummy)I put "Subject to Change" because I was hoping someone had a better plan / or contribution to make me change my mind. But I waited 7 hours after posting my no lynch intentions and no one posted anything. And in that 7 hours I decided it would probably take a "formed case" in order to change my vote.
If this doesn't explain things I can make a bigger post later today.. Feel free to ask questions
safariguy5 wrote:MoB Deadly wrote:Hm. Surprised to see 4 votes on me this morning. I think maybe I poorly phrased my post? I am at work now I wont be able to make a long rebuttle for a few hours but here is the tl;dr version
1) Other than my very first mafia game I don't think I have EVER advocated for a No Lynch on Day 1.
2) I think ideally for any game with 10+ players the MINIMUM is 2 claims and 1 lynch. (I said that was my plan earlier in the thread)
3) We had 2 power role claims, and a modkill on a power role
4) I am not going to lynch any of the claims today.
5) The game stalled.
6) I posted my intentions of a no lynch.... They were followed/agreed by C9 and Skillfull (but neither of them cast a vote)
7) I figured I would break the ice and cast a vote since people may have been nervous to do it (voting no lynch is normally perceived as scummy)I put "Subject to Change" because I was hoping someone had a better plan / or contribution to make me change my mind. But I waited 7 hours after posting my no lynch intentions and no one posted anything. And in that 7 hours I decided it would probably take a "formed case" in order to change my vote.
If this doesn't explain things I can make a bigger post later today.. Feel free to ask questions
This post seems a bit like desperation to me. With the 48 hour deadline, it seems like Mob is trying to find every possible way to get vote pressure off himself. I note that at this point, he and jonty are the most likely candidates to be lynched. Now would be the time to claim (i.e. best way to get lynch pressure off) but he decides to go with the long defense post with a decent amount of Meta and statement of facts instead.
unvote vote Mob
DoomYoshi wrote:I agree with the wagon, but for different reasons. I don't like apologetic voting. No need for "subject to change". We know you can change votes whenever you want.
vote MoB
anamainiacks wrote:(Him being a major proponent for the Jonty lynch doesn't make him any more 'town' though, so that doesn't strike me as a valid point.)
MoB Deadly wrote:Can you explain "For different reasons" The Subject to change is why everyone else has casted their vote on me.DoomYoshi wrote:I agree with the wagon, but for different reasons. I don't like apologetic voting. No need for "subject to change". We know you can change votes whenever you want.
MoB Deadly wrote:anamainiacks wrote:(Him being a major proponent for the Jonty lynch doesn't make him any more 'town' though, so that doesn't strike me as a valid point.)
Really?? Where do you get this information?? I didn't even cast a vote to hear him claim, I didn't even want him to claim. I said I would be more inclined to vote DoomYoshi over jonty before he posted that he made a mistake. I just wanted more information from jonty's PM to gain more knowledge of the flavor/meta of this game
And that is also false because obviously I chose to go for no lynch over casting a vote on jonty. At this point you are just making things up animaniacks.
anamainiacks wrote:strike wolf wrote:Not going to vote mob. He was one of the ones leaning most towards the Jonty lynch. His vote doesn't strike me as scummy it strikes me as him feeling like we weren't going to vote for the Jonty lynch so go with the other option.
(Him being a major proponent for the Jonty lynch doesn't make him any more 'town' though, so that doesn't strike me as a valid point.)
jonty125 wrote:unvote, vote MoB for the "subject to change", everyone knows you can change your vote, but you seem to be voting no lynch, waiting for someone else to provide a case.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
StorrZerg wrote:i find no joy in this
MoB Deadly wrote:So..... I don't really want to be the one to do this but time is always ticking and with such a large game it will be VERY hard to get enough momentum on a case for a lynch. I REALLY don't want us to sit idly for a week, then try to put random pressure with a bunch of inactive players on Day 1
1) Most standard mafias call for at least 2 claims. I think that is a minimum for a game this size.
2) Of course it depends on the claims, but ideally we want a lynch so we have SOME information to our advantage in future days
anamainiacks wrote:Woah, hold your horses MoB, you're starting to skim and get all desperate, and that's not helping your case at all...
DoomYoshi wrote:FTR, in a NV game, no lynches are pretty crap. I suggested one once, because the roles all had cool elements and I didn't think it would be fair for the night to end early. However, we ended up lynching that day anyways.
Exposing 2 power roles is basically exposing 2 roles. This is DnD, there is going to be a lot of killing roles, so I don't see jonty's claim as particularly powerful. Watcher is normally a superstrong role but I am thinking that with all the different factions, the results he receives may be difficult to interpret correctly.
MoB Deadly wrote:The only thing I really have to add is that it was "my plan" the entire time to get 2 claims and move from there. Hopefully toward a lynch if a role was suspect, if not I could see it getting stretched to possibly 3 claims. That brings me back to my first serious post of the game:
Perhaps it was simply timing. Perhaps he's worried about saving himself.jonty125 wrote:unvote, vote MoB for the "subject to change", everyone knows you can change your vote, but you seem to be voting no lynch, waiting for someone else to provide a case.
MoB Deadly wrote:Hm. Surprised to see 4 votes on me this morning. I think maybe I poorly phrased my post? I am at work now I wont be able to make a long rebuttle for a few hours but here is the tl;dr version
1) Other than my very first mafia game I don't think I have EVER advocated for a No Lynch on Day 1.
2) I think ideally for any game with 10+ players the MINIMUM is 2 claims and 1 lynch. (I said that was my plan earlier in the thread)
3) We had 2 power role claims, and a modkill on a power role
4) I am not going to lynch any of the claims today.
5) The game stalled.
6) I posted my intentions of a no lynch.... They were followed/agreed by C9 and Skillfull (but neither of them cast a vote)
7) I figured I would break the ice and cast a vote since people may have been nervous to do it (voting no lynch is normally perceived as scummy)I put "Subject to Change" because I was hoping someone had a better plan / or contribution to make me change my mind. But I waited 7 hours after posting my no lynch intentions and no one posted anything. And in that 7 hours I decided it would probably take a "formed case" in order to change my vote.
If this doesn't explain things I can make a bigger post later today.. Feel free to ask questions
edocsil wrote:spiesr wrote:How confident are you that we will have someone capable of killing?edocsil wrote:Neb, I think we are going to shoot for killing in the night.
16 custom picked roles. Someone picked thing with a gun, knife, sword, or something. I bet the biggest issue was how to prevent them from all having a kill.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
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